Greece vs Turkiye Conflict: What Would Happen?

[MMM-E]

This isn’t 100 years ago and war is now more sophisticated, electronic and swifter with Greece and Turkiye


Greece missile power

-- 50-90 SCALP Cruise Missiles for Mirage2000 Jets
-- 39 EXOCET anti ship Missiles for Mirage2000 Jets
-- HARM anti radiation missiles for F-16 Jets
-- JSOW glide Bombs
-- PATRIOT Air Defense Systems

Greece doest have defense industry to produce Cruise Missile,Anti ship Missile,guided MLRS,etc




TURKIYE

-- 95 POPEYE Cruise Missiles for F-4 Jets
-- 50 SLAM-ER land attack/anti ship Missiles for F-16 Jets
-- HARM anti radiation missiles for F-16 Jets
-- JSOW and KGK glide Bombs
-- S400 Air Defense Systems
-- SOM Cruise Missile

after 2012 Turkish Missiles/guided MLRS/long range smart Bombs entered service

120km TRG-300 guided MLRS
150km J600T Tactical Ballistic Missile
360km BORA Tactical Ballistic Missile
also Turkish Army has 120 of ATACMS Tactical Ballistic Missiles with range of 165km

Turkiye can produce hundreds of TRG-300 , J600T and BORA Missiles to hit Air Bases , Jet hangars , PATRIOT Air Defense Systems in Athens , Thessaloniki , Skyros, Limnos, Rhodos , Crete and Samothraki

also Turkish Army has 100 of HARPY kamikaze Drones with range of 500km for SEAD role
and Turkiye has developed KARGI kamikaze Drones with range of 1000+km for SEAD role



Greek Airforce = nothing
Greece never can stop Turkish Misssile Power which can destroy Greek Airbases including Fighter Jets


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GREECE
Greek Airforce has 50-90 SCALP land attack Cruise Missiles and 39 EXOCET anti ship Missiles


TURKIYE
Turkish Airforce has 95 POPEYE land attack Cruise Missiles and 50 SLAM-ER land attack/anti ship missiles
also Turkiye has developed SOM Cruise Missile and ATMACA anti ship Missile with KTJ-3200 turbojet engine

Turkiye has started producing more 415 SOM Cruise Missiles ...... SOM-C variant with anti ship capability to hit even moving warships

ATMACA anti ship Missile including land based variant to block Aegean and Eastern Mediterranean
also ATMACA block-II variant with RF+IIR+Datalink to hit Air Bases , Jet hangars , PATRIOT Air Defense Systems in Athens , Thessaloniki , Skyros, Limnos, and Samothraki

Turkiye can produce hundreds of KGK smar Bombs with range of 110km

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Turkiye bought S400 Air Defense System including 40N6E Missile , destruction range is up to 380-400 km

Range : 380-400 km
Altitude : 30 km
Speed : mach 4

Turkish KORKUT 35mm SPAAG and HISAR-O Air Defense System entered service to intercept Cruise Missiles and Fighter Jets

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Greek Airforce-Navy can not match with the Turkish Armed Forces in the Eastern Mediterranean


Aegean Islands such as Skyros, Limnos, and Samothraki are technically unsinkable aircraft bases like carriers with anti-aircraft systems, anti-ship missiles, soldiers, and air squadrons

but Eastern Mediterranean is Turkiye's play zone
also Greek Airforce doesnt have Air refueling Tankers and Turkiye can use S400 Air Defense Systems to block Eastern Mediterranean against Airforce



Greek Navy Frigates are so obsolete to compare Turkish Navy Frigates

GREECE
4 HYDRA class Frigates armed with 16x ESSM SAMs and 8x HARPOON anti ship missiles
9 ELLI class Frigates armed with 8x SEA SPARROW SAMs and 8x HARPOON anti ship missiles

Total of 136 SAMSs and 104 anti ship missiles


TURKIYE
4 YAVUZ class Frigates armed with 16x SEASPARROW SAMs and 8x HARPOON anti ship missiles
4 BARBAROS class Frigates armed with 32/64x ESSM SAMs and 8x HARPOON anti ship missiles
4 GABYA class Frigates armed with 40x SM-1MR SAMs and 8x HARPOON anti ship missiles
4 modernized GABYA class Frigates armed with 40x SM-1MR and 32x ESSM SAMs and 8x HARPOON anti ship missiles
4 ADA class Corvettes class Frigates armed with 21x RAMs and 8x HARPOON anti ship missiles

total of 704 SAMs and 160 anti ship missiles



Hellenic Navy no match with the Turkish Armed Forces in the Eastern Mediterranean

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AIRFORCE

GREECE
154 F-16C/D
42 Mirage-2000
34 F-4 PI 2000
4 Embraer EMB-145 AEWC
NO Air refueling Tanker
NO UCAV
NO Radar Electronic Warfare System



TURKIYE
230+ F-16C/D
45 F-4 2020 TERMINATOR
4 Boeing E-7T AEWC
7 Boeing KC-135 Air refueling Tankers
... ANKA-S , AKSUNGUR and AKINCI UCAVs
... KORAL and REDET Radar Electronic Warfare Systems


Greece doesnt have capability to hit all Airbases in Turkiye
on the other hand even land based TRG-300 guided MLRS, J600T-ATACMS-BORA Tactical Ballistic Missiles and ATMACA Block-II Cruise Missiles to hit Air Bases , Jet hangars , PATRIOT Air Defense Systems in Athens , Thessaloniki , Skyros, Limnos, Rhodos , Crete and Samothraki



RESULT : Turkish Military huge advantage

 

[Uguduwa]

a world war would be a perfect end to this lit af year. i am looking forward to it.

 

[Jobless Jack]

Unless Russia or Nato supports greece. Advantage turkey

 

[My-Analogous]

This isn’t 100 years ago and war is now more sophisticated, electronic and swifter with Greece and Turkiye


Greece missile power

-- 50-90 SCALP Cruise Missiles for Mirage2000 Jets
-- 39 EXOCET anti ship Missiles for Mirage2000 Jets
-- HARM anti radiation missiles for F-16 Jets
-- JSOW glide Bombs
-- PATRIOT Air Defense Systems

Greece doest have defense industry to produce Cruise Missile,Anti ship Missile,guided MLRS,etc




TURKIYE

-- 95 POPEYE Cruise Missiles for F-4 Jets
-- 50 SLAM-ER land attack/anti ship Missiles for F-16 Jets
-- HARM anti radiation missiles for F-16 Jets
-- JSOW and KGK glide Bombs
-- S400 Air Defense Systems
-- SOM Cruise Missile

after 2012 Turkish Missiles/guided MLRS/long range smart Bombs entered service

120km TRG-300 guided MLRS
150km J600T Tactical Ballistic Missile
360km BORA Tactical Ballistic Missile
also Turkish Army has 120 of ATACMS Tactical Ballistic Missiles with range of 165km

Turkiye can produce hundreds of TRG-300 , J600T and BORA Missiles to hit Air Bases , Jet hangars , PATRIOT Air Defense Systems in Athens , Thessaloniki , Skyros, Limnos, and Samothraki

also Turkish Army has 100 of HARPY kamikaze Drones with range of 500km for SEAD role
and Turkiye has developed KARGI kamikaze Drones with range of 1000+km for SEAD role



Greek Airforce = nothing
Greece never can stop Turkish Misssile Power which can destroy Greek Airbases including Fighter Jets


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GREECE
Greek Airforce has 50-90 SCALP land attack Cruise Missiles and 39 EXOCET anti ship Missiles


TURKIYE
Turkish Airforce has 95 POPEYE land attack Cruise Missiles and 50 SLAM-ER land attack/anti ship missiles
also Turkiye has developed SOM Cruise Missile and ATMACA anti ship Missile with KTJ-3200 turbojet engine

Turkiye has started producing more 415 SOM Cruise Missiles ...... SOM-C variant with anti ship capability to hit even moving warships

ATMACA anti ship Missile including land based variant to block Aegean and Eastern Mediterranean
also ATMACA block-II variant with RF+IIR+Datalink to hit Air Bases , Jet hangars , PATRIOT Air Defense Systems in Athens , Thessaloniki , Skyros, Limnos, and Samothraki

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Turkiye bought S400 Air Defense System including 40N6E Missile , destruction range is up to 380-400 km

Range : 380-400 km
Altitude : 30 km
Speed : mach 4

Turkish KORKUT 35mm SPAAG and HISAR-O Air Defense System entered service to intercept Cruise Missiles and Fighter Jets

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Greek Airforce-Navy can not match with the Turkish Armed Forces in the Eastern Mediterranean


Aegean Islands such as Skyros, Limnos, and Samothraki are technically unsinkable aircraft bases like carriers with anti-aircraft systems, anti-ship missiles, soldiers, and air squadrons

but Eastern Mediterranean is Turkiye's play zone
also Greek Airforce doesnt have Air refueling Tankers and Turkiye can use S400 Air Defense Systems to block Eastern Mediterranean against Airforce



Greek Navy Frigates are so obsolete to compare Turkish Navy Frigates

GREECE
4 HYDRA class Frigates armed with 16x ESSM SAMs and 8x HARPOON anti ship missiles
9 ELLI class Frigates armed with 8x SEA SPARROW SAMs and 8x HARPOON anti ship missiles

Total of 136 SAMSs and 104 anti ship missiles


TURKIYE
4 YAVUZ class Frigates armed with 16x SEASPARROW SAMs and 8x HARPOON anti ship missiles
4 BARBAROS class Frigates armed with 32/64x ESSM SAMs and 8x HARPOON anti ship missiles
4 GABYA class Frigates armed with 40x SM-1MR SAMs and 8x HARPOON anti ship missiles
4 modernized GABYA class Frigates armed with 40x SM-1MR and 32x ESSM SAMs and 8x HARPOON anti ship missiles
4 ADA class Corvettes class Frigates armed with 21x RAMs and 8x HARPOON anti ship missiles

total of 704 SAMs and 160 anti ship missiles



Hellenic Navy no match with the Turkish Armed Forces in the Eastern Mediterranean

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AIRFORCE

GREECE
154 F-16C/D
42 Mirage-2000
34 F-4 PI 2000
4 Embraer EMB-145 AEWC
NO Air refueling Tanker
NO UCAV
NO Radar Electronic Warfare System



TURKIYE
230+ F-16C/D
45 F-4 2020 TERMINATOR
4 Boeing E-7T AEWC
7 Boeing KC-135 Air refueling Tankers
... ANKA-S , AKSUNGUR and AKINCI UCAVs
... KORAL and REDET Radar Electronic Warfare Systems


Greece doesnt have capability to hit all Airbases in Turkiye
on the other hand even land based TRG-300 guided MLRS, J600T , ATACMS , BORA Tactical Ballistic Missiles and ATMACA Block-II Cruise Missiles to hit Air Bases , Jet hangars , PATRIOT Air Defense Systems in Athens , Thessaloniki , Skyros, Limnos, and Samothraki



RESULT : Turkish Military huge advantage

Turkey is still need few items.

1. Hyper sonic-1500 to 2000 km range missiles (3000km range will be nail in the coffin) and no one in EU will dare to enter in conflict with Greece
   
2. Satellite (for military use and all systems must have compliance that satellite) so that no one can change course of missiles
3. MIRV
4. Stand off bombs like H4 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-4_SOW)

 

[Novice09]

a world war would be a perfect end to this lit af year. i am looking forward to it.

Great way... 2020...

But nothing will happen...

 

[PeacefulWar]

No chance to win for Greece if they take on Turkey alone.
But will they? Rest assured whole EU will support/defend Greece once war break out, no matter what's their attitude atm.

 

[m52k85]

The main problem is France is standing behind Greece. To dissuade the French, Turkey needs to fast-track its indeginous SAM projects and put them on its Frigates

 

[MMM-E]

Turkey is still need few items.

1. Hyper sonic-1500 to 2000 km range missiles (3000km range will be nail in the coffin) and no one in EU will dare to enter in conflict with Greece
   
2. Satellite (for military use and all systems must have compliance that satellite) so that no one can change course of missiles
3. MIRV
4. Stand off bombs like H4 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-4_SOW)

1. Turkiye develops RAMJET powered supersonic Cruise Missile .. ( only Turkiye and France-The UK develops RAMJET powered supersonic Cruise Missile in Europe

also Turkiye develops Anti ship Ballistic Missile based on BORA Ballistic Missile


2. Regional Positioning and Timing System Project

Satellites : 6

Space-based project of the Turkish Armed Forces on regional positioning and time transfer by satellite navigation system

The aim of the project is to provide positioning and timing information which Turkish Armed Forces need during peace, crisis and military operations, independently from the existing foreign systems which can be disabled in times of conflict


3. Turkiye has developed 110km KGK smart Bomb and now Turkiye develops 150+km KGK-LR glide Bomb with IIR seeker

also 110km KUZGUN modular joint strike ammunition with IIR to carry by F-16s and UCAVs to hit even moving targets

also Turkiye develops 120+ km MRASHM air launched Cruise Missile with IIR for land attack/anti ship to carry by F-16s and UCAVs

 

[MMM-E]

The main problem is France is standing behind Greece. To dissuade the French, Turkey needs to fast-track its indeginous SAM projects and put them on its Frigates

France can not change military power in the Eastern Mediterranean

Turkish Navy has 16 Frigates , 10 Corvettes , 22 FACs and 12 Submarines also 192 F-16C/D Fighter Jets , S400 Air Defense Systems and hundreds of HARPOON , SLAM-ER , SOM , ATMACA land,naval,air launched Anti ship Missiles and 95 HARM anti radiation Missiles to harm French Navy in the Eastern Mediterranean

also Turkish Frigates armed with more SAMs than French+Greek Navies combined

btw Turkish TRG-300 guided MLRS , J600T and BORA Tactical Ballistic Missiles can destroy air/naval bases in Southern Cyprus which hosts French Jets and Warships


The Eastern Mediterranean is TURKIYE's play zone

 

[Dante80]

I have no idea what would happen, I certainly don't want to find out though.

 

[Timur]

whats that again are you training not to forget your defence items list? there is no war with greece..

and we do not need to measure anything because its clear win for turkey if no one else interferes..

the only war that will happen is vs EU because EU is preparing themselves for a great war against muslims.. and that has to start over turkey to enter the ME..

edit:

greek vs turkey = great destruction for both and massiv lost of people but no one is to conquer the other

 

[MMM-E]

to produce 1.000 of TRG-300 guided MLRS , J600T and BORA Tactical Ballistic Missiles to hit Air Bases , Jet hangars , PATRIOT-S300 Air Defense Systems in Athens , Thessaloniki , Skyros, Limnos, Rhodos , Crete and Samothraki ......... and GAME OVER !

 

[My-Analogous]

1. Turkiye develops RAMJET powered supersonic Cruise Missile .. ( only Turkiye and France-The UK develops RAMJET powered supersonic Cruise Missile in Europe

also Turkiye develops Anti ship Ballistic Missile based on BORA Ballistic Missile


2. Regional Positioning and Timing System Project

Satellites : 6

Space-based project of the Turkish Armed Forces on regional positioning and time transfer by satellite navigation system

The aim of the project is to provide positioning and timing information which Turkish Armed Forces need during peace, crisis and military operations, independently from the existing foreign systems which can be disabled in times of conflict


3. Turkiye has developed 110km KGK smart Bomb and now Turkiye develops 150+km KGK-LR glide Bomb with IIR seeker

also 110km KUZGUN modular joint strike ammunition with IIR to carry by F-16s and UCAVs to hit even moving targets

also Turkiye develops 120+ km MRASHM air launched Cruise Missile with IIR for land attack/anti ship to carry by F-16s and UCAVs

AlHumdAllah, Turkey is on right path. Speed up for long range missiles

 

[MMM-E]

Greeks : We have 170 superior Leopard2HEL Tanks

Turks : and We have hundreds of UCAVs to turn Tanks,Howitzers,IFVs,MLRS and Air Defense Systems into crap of metal

Bayraktar TB-2
ANKA-S
and AKSUNGUR , AKINCI UCAVs are coming

AKINCI UCAV to carry even 65km GOKDOGAN air to air missiles , 280km SOM Cruise Missile and AESA Radar

 

[MMM-E]

Turkiye bought HARPOON anti ship Missile from the US for $1+ million
now Turkiye produce its own ATMACA anti ship Missile for less than $500.000
( even ATMACA is so superior to HARPOON )


Turkish ATMACA anti ship Missile including land based variant to block Aegean and Eastern Mediterranean
also ATMACA block-II variant with RF+IIR+Datalink to hit Air Bases , Jet hangars , PATRIOT Air Defense Systems in Athens , Thessaloniki , Skyros, Limnos and Samothraki


French Navy should be careful
ATMACA anti ship missile hit the target with point accuracy from 220km away