Stop the salesman's lies and propaganda

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Korkut and HISAR only had successes in tests. They haven't been used in real combat and you don't know how succesful they can be. They might be trash.

SAMP-T - ASTER-30 also only had successes in tests .. that might be trash ?

KORKUT and HISAR successfully hit subsonic SIMSEK Target Drone which is miliar speed to SCALP Cruise Missile

supersonic HISAR easly can intercept subsonic SCALP

They might be mediocre. You don't know that. You can't brag all the time about Turkish systems,without accepting criticism. If you don't want criticism,don't present them as superweapons.

You dont know what about the Turkish Armed Forces

Turkish Armed Forces never accept trash Systems
therefore Aselsan,Roketsan,TUBITAK-SAGE develops weapons with high quality NATO standard

if Turkish Armed Forces accept a weapon , that means its high quality weapon as like American-European weapons

We have many enemies and we are not playing computer game

 

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You don't realise how tired they are of your games...if they hit,they will hit hard.

Unless of course,you think you can take on the Americans and French at the same time...along with Greece.

You are still dreaming

USA-France dont care about Greece
They want to use Greece as a puppet against Turkiye to save PKK/YPG Terrorists in Syria
Turkish Armed Forces ready for another military operation to destroy PKK/YPG in Syria

USA-France have only one strategic plan to create a terror State in Syria-İraq-Turkiye over PKK/YPG for İsraeli interests

and USA never can fight Turkiye for Greece .. but they will use proxies PKK/YPG , Greece even Armenia against Turkiye at the same time

Yes,future projects of untested aircraft that may or may not work.

not future .. maiden flight in the first quarter of 2023 and BAYKAR has no any failed project

BAYKAR has developed AKINCI strategic UCAV in 1,5 years and entered service in 2021

Europe still dreaming about EUROMALE UCAV in 2028

Eurofighters that you can't get without German,Italian and Spanish permission and you will also have to pay a lot of money to upgrade.

maybe for new one
but Turkiye can buy second hand Eurofighters from the UK and no need any permission from anyone

and we have $25 billion defense budge ... ( 5 times bigger that Greek defense budget )
money is not problem


btw Eurofighter = British technology including Engine based on Rolls Royce

Germany,Italia and Spain can not develop Eurofighter and turbofan Engine without The UK

 

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Su-35s that will bring more sanctions on your economy and military,by USA and the rest of NATO.

While you're thinking of your alternatives,we're receiving more Rafale and F-16Vs.

If USA and Europe dont sale Fighter Jet to NATO member Turkiye
then Nobody has right to say anything if Turkiye buy SU-35 from Russia

btw Turkiye should use veto card for membership of Sweden-Finland to buy F-16V or Eurofighter from NATO

Greece blocked Macedonia's NATO membership for 11 years
İf no F-16V or Eurofighter to Turkiye , then no NATO membership for Sweden and Finland


and Greeks are still dreaming to match with Turkiye
10 years ago there was not any Turkish weapon system but now Turkiye have its own dozens of sophisticated weapons

and sooner or later Turkiye will have its own KIZILELMA ,HURJET and TFX ,
what will you do in the next 10 years ?

Turkiye to become real global military industry but Greece always will remain nothing

our rival is France , but not tiny Greece

 

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Tayfun missile fire power can be countered by Patriot PAC III and S-300PMU1,as well medium range AA weapons,probably.

Turkiye doesnt have only TAYFUN Missile
Greek PATRIOT and S300 will be busy to intercept hundreds of SIMSEK and KARGI kamikaze Drones

1 PATRIOT Missile = $2-3 million
1 SIMSEK kamikaze Drone = $20.000 - $30.000

even Turkiye to produce 415 SOM Cruise Missiles .. so enough for all AD Systems in Greece

Thousands of Missiles/guided Bombs/kamikaze Drones such as TRLG-230 , J600T , BORA , ATACMS , SLAM-ER , HARM , ATMACA , JSOW , SOM , HARPOON block-II , KGK-LR , TOLUN-IIR , SIMSEK , KARGI to hit PATRIOT and S300s in Athens , Skyros and Crete

also 300 km GOKSUNGUR JEMSAH fake decoy Drone to launch to enemy air defense systems before an air attack by missiles - fighter jets


Superior technology TAYFUN and CAKIR Missiles
btw TAYFUN Missile has great technology with electronic jamming capability to jam and paralyze Air Defense Systems from 200 km away

in 2022 AKINCI UCAV will fire CAKIR Missile
CAKIR nex gen Cruise Missile also with electronic jamming capability

to fire 4 CAKIR cruise missiles
The first one, with electronic jamming capability will go ahead, and the other 3 will follow behind it. The first one will confuse the air defense systems, and the 3 following will hit the targets

Turkiye's defense Industry is more than a match for tiny Greece

 

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Tilting? You only started complaining in the '90s and the late 2010s with Erdogan.

For 60 years you had no problem. You were ok with the Treaties,suddenly you go back 100 years and lie to your people to create a negative image about us.

in 1936 , Turkiye tolerated Greece's 6nm territorial water attempt for Islands
but Greece dreamed about 12nm territorial water for Islands in 1990s
and in 1995 , Turkiye declared CASUS BELLI

Turkiye has now enough military power to protect its rights in Syria,İraq,Libya,Aegean and in the Eastern Mediterranian

Even though you know that according to the Treaties and agreements,we are perfectly legal. You repeat a lie,so that when you attack Greece,you'll already have an excuse in the minds of the Turkish people.

Greek lies and dreams

Turkiye doesnt attack on Greece

Greece wants to destroy delicate balance between Turkiye and Greece by harmonizing the vital interests and legitimate rights of both countries which established by 1923 Lausanne Peace Treaty in the Aegean

there will be war ... no joke as like 1974

Decide,are the tiny garissons of small and scattered islands a threat to you or is Turkey a regional superpower that can only be compared with USA,Russia,China,Britain,Germany,France and Egypt?

Yes its a threat to Turkiye

in 1919 , USA,UK,France,Greece invaded Izmir and Turkiye from Islands

Turkiye has many enemies , even Armenia,İran,HAFTAR,PKK/YPG are waiting for a conflict for their dirty plans in İraq,Syria,Karabakh,Libya

so we dont allow a threat from Islands which are 2-10-30 km away from Turkish mainland

 

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Greek lies and dreams

Turkiye doesnt attack on Greece

Greece wants to destroy delicate balance between Turkiye and Greece by harmonizing the vital interests and legitimate rights of both countries which established by 1923 Lausanne Peace Treaty in the Aegean

What your are saying is complete nonsense that makes no sense. Admit for once that you have no arguments.

in 1919 , USA,UK,France,Greece invaded Izmir and Turkiye from Islands

In your brain? You've said this before and it's wrong. USA had no participation,France already had parts in the Levant,Britain virtually did nothing and already had Iraq.

What you're saying is historically wrong.

Turkiye doesnt have only TAYFUN Missile
Greek PATRIOT and S300 will be busy to intercept hundreds of SIMSEK and KARGI kamikaze Drones

Greece also has medium range AA systems,SHORADS and point defence systems. We also have a new system to intercept drones,apparently. Although the government doesn't reveal much information about it.

and Greeks are still dreaming to match with Turkiye

We only want to defend our territory and freedom.

 

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btw Eurofighter = British technology including Engine based on Rolls Royce

Germany,Italia and Spain can not develop Eurofighter and turbofan Engine without The UK

It's a common project. They all have a say in it.

 

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Watching MMM-E on every thread

Sorry - could not resist

 

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What your are saying is complete nonsense that makes no sense. Admit for once that you have no arguments.

Greek Islands are more closer to Turkish mainland than Greek mainland ( 2 , 10 km )

and Greece dreaming about 12 nm territorial water in Islands

In your brain? You've said this before and it's wrong. USA had no participation,France already had parts in the Levant,Britain virtually did nothing and already had Iraq.

What you're saying is historically wrong.

Ottoman Army was banned in 1918


November 1918
73 Warships and 50.000 British,French,İtalian troops invaded Istanbul and Gallipoli

May 1919
On 7 May, The UK ,USA and France agreed to send the Greek navy to Izmir.
2 American Warships escorted Greek Forces for protection to invade Izmir

Turks fought against French Forces on the Southern Front

Turks fought against British Forces on the Al-Jazeera Front

Turks fought against Armenian Forces on the Eastern Front

Turks fought against Greek Forces on the Western Front


271.000 Turks vs 360.000 Greeks,French,British,Armenians

 

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Watching MMM-E on every thread

Watching Foinikas and his troll team on my every thread

I dont care about Greek threads ....
Foinikas and his troll team terrorize my threads since 2021

and your post is so silly

 

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Greece also has medium range AA systems,SHORADS and point defence systems. We also have a new system to intercept drones,apparently. Although the government doesn't reveal much information about it.

Still dreaming about 9 systems CROTALE and 4 systems TOR-M1 in Crete
İf Turkish Armed Forces destroy PATRIOT Systems in 24 hours ... then game over !

Jet Hangars - Air Bases will be destroyed by BORA-TAYFUN Ballistic Missiles
and CROTALE , TOR-M1 can not stop Ballistic Missiles

Greece has only 325 PATRIOT Missiles while Turkiye produce more 415 SOM Cruise Missiles

also to produce hundreds of SIMSEK and KARGI kamikaze Drones

Even I am not talking about 1.000+ TRLG-230 , J600T , BORA , ATMACA , KGK-LR , SLAM-ER , POPEYE , HARM , HARPOON Block-II to hit PATRIOT Systems in Athens and Skyros

Turkiye warned Greece with TAYFUN hypersonic Ballistic Missile

also 150 km CAKIR and 180+ km KUZGUN-TJ Cruise Missiles are coming


even Iran used swarm attack of 18 Cruise Missiles and Kamikaze Drones to destroy PATRIOT AD System and to hit ARAMCO Facilities in S.Arabia

 

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We only want to defend our territory and freedom.

No any Greek territory ... Its Turkish EEZ

Greeks wants to steal oil-gas reserves and 150.000 km2 of area from the Turks in the Eastern Mediterranean

10 km2 tiny Greek Island which is 2 km away from Turkish maınland and 580 km away from Greek mainland can not generate EEZ of 200 nm


USA-France can not change anything
Turkiye is not weak İraq or Syria or Libya or Mali

It's a common project. They all have a say in it.

They have nothing a say in Royal Air Force's Eurofighters which are already in the inventory

UK can sell Eurofighter to Turkiye ....

 

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Greek Islands are more closer to Turkish mainland than Greek mainland ( 2 , 10 km )

and Greece dreaming about 12 nm territorial water in Islands

So? What if they are?

Expanding to 12 naval miles is our right according to international law.

No any Greek territory ... Its Turkish EEZ

Greeks wants to steal oil-gas reserves and 150.000 km2 of area from the Turks in the Eastern Mediterranean

10 km2 tiny Greek Island which is 2 km away from Turkish maınland and 580 km away from Greek mainland can not generate EEZ of 200 nm

Stop copying the same lines from your notepad. You're the thieves here and the problem is that you don't only want our EEZ,but also our islands. You find excuses to claim Greek soil.

They have nothing a say in Royal Air Force's Eurofighters which are already in the inventory

UK can sell Eurofighter to Turkiye ....

In which planet do you live? Of course they have a say in this.

Still dreaming about 9 systems CROTALE and 4 systems TOR-M1 in Crete
İf Turkish Armed Forces destroy PATRIOT Systems in 24 hours ... then game over !

You forgot the army's Tor-M1,the HAWK,the Skyguard and the ASRAD HELLAS.

 

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So? What if they are?

Expanding to 12 naval miles is our right according to international law.

No any right by international law.
learn about international law , before dreaming

Greek Islands are just 7-10 km away from Turkish mainland

Aegean is totally different
It is a fundamental rule of international law that the boundaries of sea areas between close or opposite locations where maritime areas intersect or converge should be determined by agreement

Increasing the territorial sea to 12 nautical miles will disproportionately change the balance of interests in the Aegean Sea to the detriment of Turkiye

If the territorial sea is increased to 12 nautical miles, this rate rises to 70%. In this case, while the size of the open sea decreases from 51% to 19%, Turkiye's territorial waters remain less than 10% of the Aegean

Turkish Ships can not even enter Aegean ... even Russia doesnt accept 12 nm
Russian Ships also can not use international water ( the open sea ) to cross the Aegean


1923 Lausanne Peace Treaty established a delicate balance between Turkey and Greece in the Aegean

Turkiye never will allow Greece to destroy delicate balance in the Aegean

 

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Stop copying the same lines from your notepad. You're the thieves here and the problem is that you don't only want our EEZ,but also our islands. You find excuses to claim Greek soil.

100 years ago USA,France,UK,Greece invaded Turkiye from Islands
today same senario

The East Aegean Islands have been disarmed by a number of international treaties, including the 1923 Treaty of Lausanne and the 1947 Treaty of Paris

But Greece illegally arming Islands

Turkiye just says stop violate international agreements
Greece hidding behind USA-France and wants to steal oil/gas reserves and 150.000 km2 area from the Turks in the Eastern Mediterranean

Ony daydreamer thieves can try it over trash Seville map which has no any value
what a stupid claim .. no any similar claim in the world


Greek style claim about EEZ of MALTA ..... Green is real EEZ of MALTA