Stop the salesman's lies and propaganda

[MMM-E]

Yeah sure,now you find wikipedia credible

Keep dreaming. Dreams are for free. Tiny Turkey is nothing compared to strong China.

keep dreaming with China
I can also say that China is nothing to compare with strong NATO

My country is Turkiye and your country is Greece

My Turkiye is ex super power ( Ottoman Empire )
My Turkiye now regional power

but Your Greece is nothing

 

[MMM-E]

@MMM-E has exposed all your lies point by point in each of his posts.

Foinikas is so liar as like Greek politicians
and He doesnt have military knowledge


even President ERDOGAN ,Defense Minister AKAR and Turkish Foreign Minister CAVUSOGLU called Greek Prime Minister MITCOTAKIS and Foreign Minister DENDIAS as liars


Foinikas is crying to MODS to ban me

and Greek politicians are crying to USA,Germany,NATO Countries , not to sell weapons to Turkiye

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Foinikas is so liar as like Greek politicians
and He doesnt have military knowledge

He joined PDF in 2021 to terrorize my threads and to provoke me


even President ERDOGAN ,Defense Minister AKAR and Turkish Foreign Minister CAVUSOGLU called Greek Prime Minister MITCOTAKIS and Foreign Minister DENDIAS as liars


Foinikas is crying to MODS to ban me

and Greek politicians are crying to USA,Germany,NATO Countries , not to sell weapons to Turkiye

Well done brother. That @Foinikas guy could not rebutt even one of your posts exposing his lies.

All his posts were just hot air and deflection.

 

[MMM-E]

Well done brother. That @Foinikas guy could not rebutt even one of your posts exposing his lies.

All his posts were just hot air and deflection.

I had zero negative vote until 2021 ,
but Foinikas joined PDF in 2021 to terrorize my threads and to provoke me with his troll team including Chinese members Iblini , retaxis

and a Chinese MOD ( DEINO ) gave -43 negative vote to my posts to support Foinikas and his troll team

Foinikas ,Iblini , retaxis dont have military knowledge
They are running to terrorize my threads day and night 24/7 ... ( only trolling , lying , deflect the facts and provoke me )

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

I had nothing negative vote until 2021 ,
but Foinikas joined PDF in 2021 to terrorize my threads and to provoke me with his troll team including Chinese members Iblini , retaxis

and a Chinese MOD ( DEINO ) gave -43 negative vote to my posts to support Foinikas and his troll team

Foinikas ,Iblini , retaxis dont have military knowledge
They are running to terrorize my threads day and night 24/7

Greeks are provoking Turks because they know that they are losing.

 

[Foinikas]

Well done brother. That @Foinikas guy could not rebutt even one of your posts exposing his lies.

All his posts were just hot air and deflection.

Hey troll account,I've debated his dumb claims and posts numerous times. You know what he does every time he is cornered and can't reply or admit something? He goes back to the same ultranationalist ranting and same quotes.

@MMM-E has exposed all your lies point by point in each of his posts.

I exposed his lies. And you're just a troll account. Either that or you're some teenager who dreams of a panislamic world under Turkey.

 

[MMM-E]

I exposed his lies.

You are still lying and I exposed your lies in this thread ...

MMM-E : 10
Foinikas : 0

Your tiny weak Greece is in another league

Only ignorant daydreamers like you can dream about tiny weak Greece
Read again and stop dreaming


HOWITZERS
Turkiye : 1.332 Howitzers
Greece : 590 Howitzers

Turkish Army has more Howitzers than French+German+British+Greek Armies combined


MLRS - Ballistic Missile
Greece has only 40 km R-70 unguided MLRS
Turkiye has its own 40-70-120 km TRLG-122 , TRLG-230 and TRG-300 guided MLRS

Greece has only 165 km ATACMS Block1
Turkiye has its own 150-280-850 km YILDIRIM , BORA , TAYFUN Ballistic Missiles
and Turkiye has also 165 km ATACMS Block1

Turkish Army has more MLRS-Ballistic Missiles than French+German+British+Greek Armies combined


Attack Helicopters - UCAVs
Greece : 28 AH-64 and 60 KIOWA
Turkiye : 83 T-129 , 10 AH-1W Super Cobra , 42 AH-1 Cobra
also 200+ TB-2 , ANKA-S , AKSUNGUR , AKINCI UCAVs to hunt enemy Tanks

Turkiye has the best fire power in NATO after USA to hunt enemy Tanks


Utility Helicopters
Greece : 45 NH-90 and CHINOOK
Turkiye : 250+ Sikorsky Black Hawk ,CHINOOK and AS-532


Air Refueling Aircraft - Strategic Transport Aircraft
Greece : NO
Turkiye : 7 Boeing KC-135 and 10 Airbus A400M


Anti-Submarine Warfare Aircraft and Helicopters
Greece : 5 Aircraft and 11 Helicopters
Turkiye : 12 Aircraft and 24 Helicopters


5th gen Anti-Tank Missile
Greece : NO
Turkiye : OMTAS , KARAOK

Electronic Warfare Systems
Greece : NO
Turkiye : KORAL , REDET-II , VURAL , SANCAK , MILKAR-A3

UCAV
Greece : NO
Turkiye : 200+ TB-2 , ANKA-S , AKSUNGUR , AKINCI UCAVs

Unmanned Armed Vessel
Greece : NO
Turkiye : ULAQ , SALVO

Light Aircraft Carrier
Greece : NO
Turkiye : TCG ANADOLU

Land based Anti-Ship and Land attack Missile
Greece : NO
Turkiye : ATMACA

Supersonic Missile
Greece : NO
Turkiye : 150 km TRLG-230

Hypersonic Missile
Greece : NO
Turkiye : TAYFUN ( 561 km )

Kamikaze Drone
Greece : NO
Turkiye : SIMSEK and KARGI

Long Range Early Warning Radar
Greece : NO
Turkiye : 600 km BIG BIRD and 600 km EIRS

Stealth Corvette
Greece : NO
Turkiye : 4 ADA class stealth Corvette

Electronic Warfare Ship
Greece : NO
Turkiye : TCG ANADOLU

FAC
Greece : 7
Turkiye : 22

Air launched Cruise Missile
Greece : 90 SCALP
Turkiye : 400 SOM , SLAM-ER , POPEYE

Naval SAMs
Greece : 208 ESSM and RIM-7
Turkiye : 672 ESSM , SM-1 , RIM-7

Air Defense Systems
Greece : PATRIOT ,S300 , TOR-M1 , CROTALE , SKYGUARD-II , MIM-23B , SA-8 GECKO , ARTEMIS-30 mm

Turkiye :
S400
HISAR-A
HISAR-O
SUNGUR
KORKUT
ŞAHIN
NAZAR-KARA
ATILGAN with 8 x STINGER
Modernized HAWK XXI
Modernized OERLIKON
RAPIER
IGLA
also soon SIPER

and many more
Greece produce nothing
on the other hand Turkiye produce hundreds of its own weapons/equipment

Know your place with your weak-tiny Greece

 

[Foinikas]

Numbers are everything for the salesman

 

[MMM-E]

Ignorant waiter Foinikas doesnt know what about military

not only numbers , but also

-- quality
-- superior technology
-- superior fire power
-- experience
-- huge population
-- strategic dept
-- defense industry

What about tiny weak Greece ? nothing

Our rival is France in Syria , Libya and in the Eastern Mediterranean
but not puppet Greece

 

[Tornado23]

You know there is a huge fight going on between this Turkish guy and Greek guy (don't know how that happened ) and then there is this dancing hot dog

 

[retaxis]

1) Turkiye has bigger GDP than Egypt+Greece combined (but less than saudi or Iran)
2) Turkiye's export is bigger than Greece+İsrael+Egypt+İran combined (but less than Saudi )
3) Turkiye has the best defense Industry in the region (false)
4) Turkiye is only industrialized country in the region (false as Iran/gulf arabs are more advanced)
5) Turkiye is a G-20 Country (so?)
6) Turkiye has the best soft power in the region ( from Bosnia to China ) (saudi and Iran have far more influence. Turkey has no influence over anyone in the region thats why it loses in Libya and Syria
7) Only Turkiye has military bases abroad ( Azerbaijan , Albania , Qatar , Libya , Somalia , TRNC ) ..... Also Turkish military points in Iraq and Syria (so?)

Fact is your half truths and white lies show that Turkey doesn't have the most advanced weapons in the region its Israel. It doesn't have the largest economy in the region its Saudi and it is not self reliant as Iran can make everything themselves. Thats all 99.99% of people need to know. Your made up categories on why Turkey is great is only a delusion that people can search up GDP, GDP per capita and military expenditure to quickly realise Turkey is not in the game

 

[MMM-E]

Fact is your half truths and white lies show that Turkey doesn't have the most advanced weapons in the region its Israel.

Dont change my words .. liar ignorant Troll
I said that , Turkish defense Industry is advanced than Israeli defense Industry

Turkiye develops its own Fighter Jets , Helicopters ,Warships , Submarines , Engines and many more while Israel lacks of these technologies

Turkiye has over 750 military projects .. ( Israel not even close )


Israeli Navy is so tiny and weak
Turkish Army is far stronger than Israeli Army
Israel has only one superior weapon .. its F-35 ,.... because USA blocked F-35 to Turkiye

 

[MMM-E]

It doesn't have the largest economy in the region its Saudi and it is not self reliant as Iran can make everything themselves.

Turkiye is only industrialized country in the region

Turkiye's export is bigger than Greece+İsrael+Egypt+İran combined

S.Arabia export oil .. nothing else
Iran export oil/gas .. nothing else

Without oil gas reserves S.Arabia and İran would be similar to poor Yemen
S.Arabia produce nothing ...

also , Nobody attack on S.Arabia
on the other hand since 2013 , there are economic-asymmetric warfare between Turkiye and USA/France FETO , PKK/YPG , HAFTAR ,Greece , Armenia , Egypt , S.Arabia , The Uae

1 Turkish Lira has risen to 7,2 TL from 1,8 TL between 2013 and 2021
if there were no attacks on Turkiye-Turkish economy since 2013 , Turkiye would have minimum $1,5 trillion of GDP Nominal now

 

[MMM-E]

Your made up categories on why Turkey is great is only a delusion that people can search up GDP, GDP per capita and military expenditure to quickly realise Turkey is not in the game

Nobody is in the game , except Turkiye ..

Backward Egypt and S.Arabia can not develop even Cruise Missile
S.Arabia can not match even in Yemen ... what a weak country

Turkiye has great defense industry to develop over 750 military projects ( more than all Arab countries combined )

and since 2013 , Turkiye fought USA-France , PKK/YPG , FETO , HAFTAR , The Uae , Egypt , S.Arabia , Armenia ,Greece in İraq , Syria , Libya , Karabakh and in the Eastern Mediterranean

also Turkish military bases in Qatar and Somalia


Qatar has the highest GDP per capita but Qatar can not protect even itself ...

Turkiye is the strongest country in the region to fight in 6 fronts against multi-national alliance

and Turkiye has the best soft power in the region ( from Bosnia to China )

Iran has no influence in Balkans,Caucasia,Africa and Central Asia
Turkiye has influence in Balkans,Caucasia,Africa,Syria,İraq,Libya,Qatar and Central Asia


Egypt,İran,S.Arabia are nothing in the last 1.000 years
They were ruled by the Turks for centuries

Dont compare our ex-vassals with Turkiye ( ex-super power Ottoman Empire which ruled 44 countries in 3 continents )

 

[Foinikas]

Our rival is France in Syria , Libya and in the Eastern Mediterranean
but not puppet Greece

Then why do you keep making Greece vs Turkey threads??