Global Firepower placed Pakistan as 10th most powerful country on earth - 2021 .

[Aspen]

I'm not gonna lie, as much as I like that Pakistan is number 10, I have no idea how it is higher than Iran when there are videos like this. Their method of measuring doesn't seem right.

 

[Titanium100]

I'm not gonna lie, as much as I like that Pakistan is number 10, I have no idea how it is higher than Iran when there are videos like this. Their method of measuring doesn't seem right.

They couldn't even defeat the rebels in Syria had to get Russia in to save them from the rebels. Dude all that is junk and couldn't alter any conflict and most of these weaponry has been put to test already and seen action without no avail. They are even highly overrated imo on the list let alone making top 10. They are at best top 25

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

I'm not gonna lie, as much as I like that Pakistan is number 10, I have no idea how it is higher than Iran when there are videos like this. Their method of measuring doesn't seem right.

We suck at making good videos..our background music is usually "tum hi sai aye mujahidon"..too old for the generation z folks..
Its deliberately done to keep a low profile, very necessary for a country that has won wars against Indians , which is most combat ready , battle-hardened and a prepared nuke power that sits in a very important geo strategic location, which is actually a #4 or #5 when everything is considered..

 

[Aspen]

They couldn't even defeat the rebels in Syria had to get Russia in for them. Dude all that is junk and couldn't alter any conflict. They are even highly overrated imo on the list let alone making top 10

You are dreaming if you think that kind of missile capability will not alter the conflict. Iran is easily a top 10 missile power and arguably a top 5 missile power. If you get hit with a missile barrage like that, you will not make it out alive no matter what you have. Underestimating Iran and viewing restraint in Syria as weakness is a favorite hobby of people on this forum but it is probably one of the biggest mistakes you can make if your enemy is Iran.

Whether Iran wants to wipe out Israel or not is one thing but this video makes it crystal clear that the only reason Israel still exists is because Iran lets them. Forget about Syria, Israel as a country will be wiped off the map if Iran gets serious about deploying these missile capabilities where it matters. No F35 or US help can save them from this. Israelis should consider themselves lucky that Iran is rational enough to comply with the JCPOA when really the Israelis are playing with fire having an adversary like Iran that can easily and literally have them wiped off the map and chooses not to for strategic reasons.

 

[Titanium100]

You are dreaming if you think that kind of missile capability will not alter the conflict. If you get hit with a missile barrage like that, you will not make it out alive no matter what you have.

Whether Iran wants to wipe out Israel or not is one thing but this video makes it crystal clear that the only reason Israel still exists is because Iran lets them. Forget about Syria, Israel as a country will be wiped off the map if Iran gets serious about deploying these missile capabilities where it matters. No F35 or US help can save them from this. Israelis should consider themselves lucky that Iran is rational enough to comply with the JCPOA when really the Israelis are playing with fire having an adversary like Iran that can easily have them wiped off the map and chooses not to for strategic reasons.

Lmao. This is ludcrious what do you think this is dragon ball z where you can just eliminate a country with such a weak rockets. It can't even destroy a very small base these rockets. Don't pay to much into limited damage weapons like these. War is not a fantasy but is won with capable manpower and weaponry combined and it will take years to grind the opponent in this age.

You have to first understand the nature of wars before thinking such rockets are of anything valueable the neighbouring countries have much better rockets and missiles with more precision but you are not gonna see here any fool telling you oh these weapons can destroy an entire country that is just not factual.

Once the engagement happens one side will eventually inserts dominance but even then it doesn't mean the war is won but it grinds into a long attration war. So stop the fantasy and realize first the reality of modern warfare first

 

[Aspen]

Lmao. This is ludcrious what do you think this is dragon ball z where you can just eliminate a country such a weak as.s rockets. It can't even destroy a very small base these rockets. Don't pay to much into limited damage weapons like these. War is not a fantasy but is won with capable manpower and weaponry combined and it will take years to grind the opponent in this age.

You have to first understand the nature of wars before thinking such rockets are of anything valueable the neighbouring countries have much better rockets and missiles with more precision but you are not gonna see here any fool telling you oh these weapons can destroy an entire country that is just not factual.

Once the engagement happens one side will eventually inserts dominance but even then it doesn't mean the war is won but it grinds into a long attration war. So stop the fantasy and realize first the reality of modern warfare first

You have absolutely no understanding of contemporary warfare, that is clear for every one to see.

If you think these missiles won't do any damage, then why don't you volunteer to stand inside of a building that gets pounded by 5 of these Iranian missiles? I pity you. There will be no pieces of your charred body left to bury.

It is entirely realistic that a couple hundred missiles of the Iranian assortment could wipe out most if not all major population centers in Israel in a relatively short time. Israel can do some strikes in Syria, but they know that in an actual war, they have no chance in a straight war against Iran, and even if US gets involved, it is questionable how much even US can do to help Israel given how vulnerable their own assets in the Gulf are to Iranian missiles. A couple Iranian missile strikes that flew over US base in Qatar on trajectory to hit Aramco oil facilities was enough to scare US into moving their ME command facility from Qatar back to South Carolina. Speaks volumes about what happens when the illusion of power meets real power.

 

[Trango Towers]

Israel with 200 plus nukes and a phenomenal tech doesn't make the list loool but India (tejas) make the list along with Brazil Pakistan Japan. The list is a joke

 

[Titanium100]

You have absolutely no understanding of contemporary warfare, that is clear for every one to see.

If you think these missiles won't do any damage, then why don't you volunteer to stand inside of a building that gets pounded by 5 of these Iranian missiles? I pity you.

It is entirely realistic that a couple hundred missiles of the Iranian assortment could wipe out most if not all major population centers in Israel in a relatively short time. Israel can do some strikes in Syria, but they know that in an actual war, they have no chance in a straight war against Iran, and even if US gets involved, it is questionable how much even US can do to help Israel given how vulnerable their own assets in the Gulf are to Iranian missiles. A couple Iranian missile strikes that flew over US base in Qatar on trajectory to hit Aramco oil facilities was enough to scare US into moving their ME command facility from Qatar back to South Carolina. Speaks volumes about what happens when the illusion of power meets real power.

As I said again it is you who don't know anything about wars or modern warfare. You watch to much cartoon or action films thinking everything is simple. Why do you think Iran lost the war against the rebels ask this question to yourself first?

Example in WW3 you won't see anyone running over anyone and even for these having massive nuclear weapons like the US or Russia they will strike but it won't give them guaraanted victory due to underground tunnels the fighting forces can just re-emerge just continueing the grinding war and they can't strike everywhere. It could last anywhere between 10-15 years depending on who folds first and it comes down to stamina and how much manpower and resources you can throw at it. This is the real WORLD not some fantasy. Iran used drones from a none state actors no rockets at all. I can strike and ignite fire in a gas or oil field with a commercial homemade drones nothing significiant.

You need to first understand the concept of modern warfare before saying ludcrious stuff.

These missiles are nothing really it could have saved Assad if it was worth of anything but it couldn't Russia had to be invited to save him and even for them using everything outside of Nuclear took them 5 years of grinding war that is modern day war for you and they were lightly armed. The only reason the Armenians lost so quickly is because they didn't have morale unlike these in Syria.

Imagine two nations fighting it will go along something in these lines as everyone is growing and I would even say the neighbouring countries are more armed then Iran including Israel and the rest.

In a realistic war Iran will be grinded down and overwhelmed but they will hold for few years depending on their morale like 3-4 years and also depending on the size of the enemy forces attackting them if the war is multiple axis it will go 3-4 years which it will likely be but if it is one front they can stand an fight another 8 years depending on their morale being high until they are overun

 

[Trango Towers]

As I said again it is you who don't know anything about wars or modern warfare. You watch to much cartoon or action films thinking everything is simple. Why do you think Iran lost the war against the rebels ask this question to yourself first?

Example in WW3 you won't see anyone running over anyone and even for these having massive nuclear weapons like the US or Russia they will strike but it won't give them guaraanted victory due to underground tunnels the fighting forces can just re-emerge just continueing the grinding war and they can't strike everywhere. It could last anywhere between 10-15 years depending on who folds first and it comes down to stamina and how much manpower and resources you can throw at it. This is the real WORLD not some fantasy. Iran used drones from a none state actors no rockets at all. I can strike and ignite fire in a gas or oil field with a commercial homemade drones nothing significiant.

You need to first understand the concept of modern warfare before saying ludcrious stuff.

These missiles are nothing really it could have saved Assad if it was worth of anything but it couldn't Russia had to be invited to save him and even for them using everything outside of Nuclear took them 5 years of grinding war that is modern day war for you and they were lightly armed. The only reason the Armenians lost so quickly is because they didn't have morale unlike these in Syria.

Imagine two nations fighting it will go along something in these lines as everyone is growing and I would even say the neighbouring countries are more armed then Iran including Israel and the rest

Keep worshipping Israel. You both dumb and dumber. Jog on. Supoorter of the real terrorist

 

[Aspen]

As I said again it is you who don't know anything about wars or modern warfare. You watch to much cartoon or action films thinking everything is simple. Why do you think Iran lost the war against the rebels ask this question to yourself first?

Example in WW3 you won't see anyone running over anyone and even for these having massive nuclear weapons like the US or Russia they will strike but it won't give them guaraanted victory due to underground tunnels the fighting forces can just re-emerge just continueing the grinding war and they can't strike everywhere. It could last anywhere between 10-15 years depending on who folds first and it comes down to stamina and how much manpower and resources you can throw at it. This is the real WORLD not some fantasy.

As for Iran they used drones from a none state actors no rockets at all was fired. I can strike and ignite fire in a gas or oil field with a commercial homemade drones nothing significiant.

You need to first understand the concept of modern warfare before saying ludcrious stuff.

These missiles are nothing really it could have saved Assad if it was worth of anything but it couldn't Russia had to be invited to save him and even for them using everything outside of Nuclear took them 5 years of grinding war that is modern day war for you. The only reason the Armenians lost so quickly is because they didn't have morale unlike these in Syria.

Imagine two nations fighting it will go along something in these lines as everyone is growing and I would even say the neighbouring countries are more armed then Iran including Israel and the rest

Iran doesn't need to imagine that, they lived through it by fighting the Iran-Iraq war. They have the missile capabilities they have today because of what they learned from that war.

Iran is going to keep their best missiles reserved for defence of Iran's borders which is a rational and sensible thing to do. Lower and mid-tier Iranian missiles are deployed to proxies in Syria, Iraq, and Lebanon. But underestimating Iran is a classic mistake that many have made in the past and many will continue to make.

When Iran uses its most advanced missiles, they are not fired from Syria or Iraq, they are reserved for Iran's direct use and fired directly from Iran as in case of RQ-4 shootdown and Aramco strike.

 

[Progressive1]

I'm not gonna lie, as much as I like that Pakistan is number 10, I have no idea how it is higher than Iran when there are videos like this. Their method of measuring doesn't seem right.

how is iran ahead of pakistan ? Pakistan ensure geo strtagic parity in the region despite being at huge odds in neighbourhood , while tiny Isreal bully whole middle east.

 

[Titanium100]

Iran doesn't need to imagine that, they lived through it by fighting the Iran-Iraq war. They have the missile capabilities they have today because of what they learned from that war.

Iran is going to keep their best missiles reserved for defence of Iran's borders which is a rational and sensible thing to do. Lower and mid-tier Iranian missiles are deployed to proxies in Syria, Iraq, and Lebanon. But underestimating Iran is a classic mistake that many have made in the past and many will continue to make.

When Iran uses its most advanced missiles, they are not fired from Syria or Iraq, they are reserved for Iran's direct use and fired directly from Iran as in case of RQ-4 shootdown and Aramco strike.

If Iran were to be attacked from one front it would mirror the Iraq-Iran war but with the attacking forces being larger they will get breached and grinded down eventually. This is just the nature of war. Saddam actully breached them and was fighting inside Iran since the war was not happening on Iraqi territory but he couldn't achieve to grind them down due to his manpower being lower then Iran's.

Israel could strike Iran with Nukes but even if it did that it won't give them victory. They need capable manpower and weaponry combined to breach and grind within deep Iranian territories which they never will achieve this is outside of their possibilities. But the Gulf states allies combined such as Jordan, Egypt and Sudan could do this to Iran. Even Turkey and it is Turkic allies could do it much faster or even Pakistan alone can also do it or NATO can do it. The EU can also do it. Russia can also do it. China can also do it. South Korea can't do it.

Personally if World war 3 turns into nations allied against it each other one camp there and another camp here it could technically go on for 10-15 years and there is even possibility it could end up draw if both sides fatigue and think we will settle for peace talks but if there is determination on both camps it can continue for 10-15 years

 

[Progressive1]

With improving economy Pakistan can certainly reach Top 5 (considering our population size) this is achievable.

well I dont want pakistan to be in such lists like north korea or India or saudia arabia , just by amassing toys by buying , I want Pakistan to enter like france , UK , Germany , Japan or USA , where defence is product of advances an innovtion in science and technology , doesnt matter if it takes hundred more years.

 

[Aspen]

If Iran were to be attacked from one front it would mirror the Iraq-Iran war but with the attacking forces being larger they will get breached and grinded down eventually. This is just the nature of war. Saddam actully breached them and was fighting inside Iran since the war was not happening on Iraqi territory but he couldn't achieve to grind them down due to his manpower being lower then Iran's.

Israel could strike Iran with Nukes but even if it did that it won't guaraantee them victory. They need capable manpower and weaponry combined to breach and grind within deep Iranian territories which they never will achieve this is outside of their possibilities. But the Gulf states, Jordan, Egypt and Sudan could do this to Iran. Even Turkey and it is allies Turkic allies could do it much faster or even Pakistan alone can also do it or NATO can do it. The EU can also do it. Russia can also do it. China can also do it. South Korea can't do it.

Personally if World war 3 turns into nations allied against it each other one camp there and another camp here it could technically go on for 10-15 years

Iran of 2021 is completely different from Saddam era. Iran during Iran-Iraq war was at its weakest point and it was still a stalemate, Iran is much stronger today, very few countries in the region stand any chance against Iran today, especially with Iran's cyber, missile, UAV, and space capabilities. Turkey doesn't have any cyber, space, or missile capability, Pakistan doesn't have any cyber, space, or UAV capability. Iran has all 4. Any of the Arab countries that are stupid enough to try a war with Iran will get wiped out. Israel talks big because they know they are fucked in a real war.

 

[Titanium100]

Iran of 2021 is completely different from Saddam era. Iran during Iran-Iraq war was at its weakest point and it was still a stalemate, Iran is much stronger today, very few countries in the region stand any chance against Iran today, especially with Iran's cyber, missile, UAV, and space capabilities. Turkey doesn't have any cyber, space, or missile capability, Pakistan doesn't have any cyber, space, or UAV capability. Iran has all 4. Any of the Arab countries that are stupid enough to try a war with Iran will get wiped out. Israel talks big because they know they are fucked in a real war.

Iran is not the only country who got stronger all the neighbours got stronger and more advanced then Iran on paper as far as weaponry go and logistics. Turkey has space, UAE has space even on mars. You think only Iran made growth but the growth some of these countries made is far ahead of Iran. The same growth rate will continue in the next 20-30 years everyone will grow on the same pattern and modernize. The countries that has made most significiant growth is Turkey. The growth is exponentially across the board. China is growing at rapid pace and even India is growing and Pakistan is growing. It is across the board example Indonesia etc etc. Algeria, Vietnam all of these countries but mostly in the middle east the growth has been exponential.

Most of these countries have even their own 5th generation fighters production and making stealth technology domestically.

The rate will be the same for the next 20-30 and nobody will enjoy advantage as the cap will be same playing level. Perhaps small thing here and there could occur but it won't be significiant