Give Pak A Chance

[IceCold]

Nice to know that you think of 1 billion people as Monsters.

Not all 1 billion are monsters but dont say that there isnt any and dont let me reimind you the Hollies hindus have played with muslim blood.

Have you read all the holy books and customs of all the other religions.

I havent read all the books but i have a respect for them and unlike you i dont blame these books for placing hatred for muslims.

What ever faults we have in our own country we are responsible for that unlike you that blames pakistan for every failure that india faces. Indias own leaders admits that militancy in kashmir has been siginficantly reduced, i am happy they even recognized this part coz there isnt any militancy going on in kashmir but your leaders wouldnt admit that coz afterall they want to build up a huge stock pile of arms in the name of so called threat posed by pakistan and have to take votes from extremisit hindus.

 

[Adux]

IceCold,

What about the Muslim atrocites on Hindus?

PS: You are completly wrong about me, But I will be critical about any sort of terrorism which is harmful to peace of the land. Now a days Islamic terrorism is one of the major contributing factors, I dont blame the quran, the prophet or islam, But the muslims and that too muslims who interpret it that way and incite hatred

If extremist hindu's would have voted, we would still have the BJP ruling in India. We dont.

 

[KashifAsrar]

Would that be me!!!! Einstien
Let me guess I dont stick with band wagon, I am called the RSS Freak, unlike you some people in the forum have met me in real life, they know my history and line of thinking quite well. Just because I dont subscribe to the brotherhood and is only bothered about how my country advancement and political mileage.... Put a topic on Hindu Extremism, Western Imperalism and Israeli atrocities. See my opinion on them

It is exactly you. PATRIOT!
And yes you are an RSS FREAK.
Does your brotherhood allow you to be a 'MATHERCHOD' as you referred in your previous mail, and still be a PATRIOT and TRUE SECULARIST.
How you claim your RANTING to be logical and PATRIOTIC. It is anything but logic and patriotism.

Spit your venom on some other forums where people like you are always welcome!

PS: I request mods to take care of the $hit all over the forum. Un-intenionally I got involved as well.

Kashif

 

[KashifAsrar]

IceCold, did i write any rubbish about Islam ? I said i 'could' too, in the same manner as those pics put up on the thread were somehow = 'Hindu terrorism'. Thats the word used by the guy who put those pics, meaning he was attributing the terrorist act to Hindusim, not Indians. If not, why didn't he say, 'Indian terrorism' ? See my point ?

I have my personal opinions regarding Islam too, but i don't paste them all over internet boards to take cheap shots at others, and believe me it would be far easier to do that.

I respect your point blitz. It is genuine.
What Icecold was trying to refer, correct me if I am wrong, is that the logic and reason that you gave to defend Hinduism, is the same logic and reasoning Muslims give to defend thier religion. But the point of difference is that while your explanation are taken care of in correct context, at the same time muslims explanation are ridculed and mocked at, to say least. It is said openly and aggressively by the opponents, that ISLAM teaches it like that!

Kashif

 

[Adux]

It is exactly you. PATRIOT!
And yes you are an RSS FREAK.

Why cuz I stood against muslim extremism, I would do the same for Hindu or Christain or even the table worshuppers.

Does your brotherhood allow you to be a 'MATHERCHOD' as you referred in your previous mail, and still be a PATRIOT and TRUE SECULARIST.

And who did I give the refernce to, for me modi and kafeel ahmed are the same

How you claim your RANTING to be logical and PATRIOTIC. It is anything but logic and patriotism.

My ranting? Cuz I see the hypcrisy here. There is a thread here called Debate or Denial in the social section. I am a liberal by any stretch of imagination.

Spit your venom on some other forums where people like you are always welcome!

Kashif

When did this become your forum, are you a pakistan?

 

[IceCold]

IceCold,

What about the Muslim atrocites on Hindus?.

Its wrong too but muslims are in miniorty in india, how would they be a threat to hindus?

PS: You are completly wrong about me, But I will be critical about any sort of terrorism which is harmful to peace of the land. Now a days Islamic terrorism is one of the major contributing factors, I dont blame the quran, the prophet or islam, But the muslims and that too muslims who interpret it that way and incite hatred

If extremist hindu's would have voted, we would still have the BJP ruling in India. We dont.

If you dont blame quran or the prophet or islam then please state so. As for radical islamist, i would say there are bad apples everywere but my point is 1 couldnt blame the entire nation or the entire religion for these bad apples. I would be suppries if u say that there ant any bad apples in hindus?
as for extremist hindus voting,i believe that they are in a low percentage in india and most of the people are moderate and who mind there own business. I have had indians friends too, i have even studied with them and i knew their thinking too. That is the reason BJP didnt win

 

[IceCold]

IceCold, did i write any rubbish about Islam ? I said i 'could' too, in the same manner as those pics put up on the thread were somehow = 'Hindu terrorism'. Thats the word used by the guy who put those pics, meaning he was attributing the terrorist act to Hindusim, not Indians. If not, why didn't he say, 'Indian terrorism' ? See my point ?

I have my personal opinions regarding Islam too, but i don't paste them all over internet boards to take cheap shots at others, and believe me it would be far easier to do that.

I never said you did. I said your kind did means other indians on this forum did. 1 more thing as kahsif said that terrorism is terrorism and just coz some muslim does this doesnt mean that islam teaches them too and therefore should not be attached to islam or for that matter any religion.
Your perosnal opinions are always welcomed, but it should be based to true judgment rather then based on hatred.

 

[Adux]

Icecold,

Nobody is claiming Islam teaches violence, but the people who commit violence in the name of Islam. I dont think anybody over here has said islam teaches violence.

 

[Adux]

Its wrong too but muslims are in miniorty in india, how would they be a threat to hindus?

From the Islamic invasion to British India, nearly 6 million Hindu's have been killed and Slave traded into as far as Bagdad Markets where Hindu's were traded as slaves.

 

[KashifAsrar]

From the Islamic invasion to British India, nearly 6 million Hindu's have been killed and Slave traded into as far as Bagdad Markets where Hindu's were traded as slaves.

Validate your point with links and information. You are trying to re-write a new history of Indian subcontinent.
Kashif

 

[blitz]

Ok chill out folks. I believe there is no point getting worked up over this, because none of us here will change our opinions by arguing. Adux, from your posts i know you are a true secularist, much more than i am. But as i said earlier, wise men see others cards, but never show theirs.

 

[Bull]

"Ikhwan" of Koka Parrey in Kashmir, "Bugtis" in Balochistan, Northern Alliance terrorist and traitors of Afghanistan..

Northern Allaince..lol..they were supported by US/NATO and Pakistan to throw out the Taleban. So why single out India?

"Last but not the least the Communalist Govt Security services and terrorists of Bajrang Dal, VHP, Shiv Sena, Hindu Munnai, RSS who have been given a free hand to carry out the ethnic cleansing of Indian Muslims.

What with? Sticks and sickles? U dont need a inteligence agencies to get a stick or sickle!!!

 

[Bull]

Many times on this forum you have posted that you wish to see the destruction of Pakistan, how do you explain such fanatic comments where as you also disagree with the actions of voilent Hindu mobs.

We have the guts to stand up sy those Hindus were bastards. Can the Muslims do that?? You scared to death by the fanatics who have hijacked the relegion. You cant do anything against them and hence the rest of us is forced to act. Thats the pt , get that into your head.

 

[KashifAsrar]

There is no free hand given to ethinically cleanse the Muslims in India, to any organization.

"Last but not the least the Communalist Govt Security services and terrorists of Bajrang Dal, VHP, Shiv Sena, Hindu Munnai, RSS who have been given a free hand to carry out the ethnic cleansing of Indian Muslims.

The organization that you mention do have a damaging agenda for Muslim and Islam but they do not have a free hand, although they wish to have. Indian constitution is still secular and so is major part of Judiciary. This is the real hope and light for a bright future for Indians, including Muslims.
Kashif

 

[Bull]

There is no free hand given to ethinically cleanse the Muslims in India, to any organization.


The organization that you mention do have a damaging agenda for Muslim and Islam but they do not have a free hand, although they wish to have. Indian constitution is still secular and so is major part of Judiciary. This is the real hope and light for a bright future for Indians, including Muslims.
Kashif

Refreshing comment. This is what i wanted to hear from you. I had a doubt whether you also had the same feeling that you are being sidelined in your own country due to your faith. Happy to hear u dont consider it so.