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General Bakshi reveals Kargil humiliation

I posted what was shared on the FB.....as for General Bakhshi's tall claims, perhaps you can answer this by referring to my post#24.....also if it was such a decisive victory at the end then why would the Government of the day sweep it all under the carpet as also disclosed by the General... and even if one was to believe General's last lines, what to say of....lightning never strikes the same place twice. !!!

You talk about sweeping under carpet ? Your military has converted your defeats into few words mentioned below. :D

1) We fought 7 times larger nation.
2) Zardari,Nawaz messed up.
3) We did well in kargil but nawaz ruined it.
4)We won half kashmir from india( although there was no indian soldier in kashmir when pakistan attacked in 1948)
 
bhai, video is not about kargil war. Btw, Did your army tell you about the bombing happened to them on peaks in kargil war ?. Your whole ammunition depot was destroyed and this incident alone caused you more than 100 soldiers.
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Above pic shows before strike and after strike situation of your ammunition depot. You can see, every thing was smoked after strike by Mirages.
Oh yes off course, you first make an ammo dump inside the enemy area....in the open.....and then station hundreds of your soldiers in and around it......Indian Logic. !!!
 
Oh yes off course, you first make an ammo dump inside the enemy area....in the open.....and then station hundreds of your soldiers in and around it......Indian Logic. !!!

This pic is taken from american satellite not indian. India did not have such tech at that time.
Kargil was fought on peaks so obvsly ammunition supplies will be near where soldiers can hold for long and cut off enemy supplies to siachin. Hard to understand ?

Four days later, on June 17, another important breakthrough in the joint campaign was achieved when a formation of 7 Squadron Mirage 2000Hs struck and destroyed the enemy’s main administrative and logistics encampment at Muntho Dhalo in the Batalik sector by means of accurately placed 1,000-pound general-purpose bombs delivered in high-angle dive attacks using the aircraft’s computer-assisted weapons-aiming capability. For this pivotal attack, the IAF waited until the encampment had grown to a size that rendered it strategically ripe for such targeting. The AOC-in-C of Western Air Command at the time, Air Marshal Patney, affirmed later that the essentially total destruction by the IAF of the NLI’s rudimentary but absolutely life-sustaining infrastructure at Muntho Dhalo “paralyzed the enemy war effort, as it was their major supply depot.”68 In characterizing the attack as “perhaps the most spectacular of all the [campaign’s air] strikes,” a serving IAF air commodore reported at the end of 1999 that it resulted in as many as 300 enemy casualties within just minutes.69 Figure 3 shows pre- and post-strike aerial imagery of the enemy camp at Muntho Dhalo. In the first image, a dense array of tents and structures, as well as tracks leading up the hillside from the encampment, are clearly visible. In the second, after completion of the IAF’s attacks, all that remain are bomb craters and rubble.

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This is the link.

http://carnegieendowment.org/2012/09/20/airpower-at-18-000-indian-air-force-in-kargil-war/dvc4#
 
Btw till now, how many times your army has been enquired about all wars with india ? After kargil, mushy imposed martial law when PMLN asked for enquiry ? right ?

Actually, wrong, as usual.

A rift was created between NS and the Army when NS surrendered to US diktat and ordered the Military to retreat from Kargil rather than to support the Kargil operation. The final nail was when NS stupidly decided to release the Army Chief of his command, while the Army Chief was on official visit abroad, and to deny landing rights to the Plane in which the Army Chief was returning to Karachi......the plane was further advised to land in India instead.
 

So he talked about you guys having better guns and Indian army have poor facilities and obsolete equipment to fight the war which is even echoed by our army chief who said "We will fight with sticks and stones" . So with such great weapons and officers were you guys in kargil now?

Actually, wrong, as usual.

A rift was created between NS and the Army when NS surrendered to US diktat and ordered the Military to retreat from Kargil rather than to support the Kargil operation. The final nail was when NS stupidly decided to release the Army Chief of his command, while the Army Chief was on official visit abroad, and to deny landing rights to the Plane in which the Army Chief was returning to Karachi......the plane was further advised to land in India instead.

I really wonder how such powerful NS has to live in exile because of your not so powerful army chief who has to retreat from kargil because of his diktat
 
Here is full version on youtube....

In the end of video there is also some twist for indians to live furthermore....:lol:

Yar aik baat samajh main nahi aai. Pehli bar "intrusion" honay k baad dosri "intrusion" main bilkul achambhay main kaisy pakray gaey? Pehli karwai ki nashay main ki thi?
 
Actually, wrong, as usual.

A rift was created between NS and the Army when NS surrendered to US diktat and ordered the Military to retreat from Kargil rather than to support the Kargil operation. The final nail was when NS stupidly decided to release the Army Chief of his command, while the Army Chief was on official visit abroad, and to deny landing rights to the Plane in which the Army Chief was returning to Karachi......the plane was further advised to land in India instead.

Who advised N.S to land in washington ? Did mushy begged him ?

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...rgil-ceasefire-Sharif/articleshow/2394670.cms
 
This pic is taken from american satellite not indian. India did not have such tech at that time.
Kargil was fought on peaks so obvsly ammunition supplies will be near where soldiers can hold for long and cut off enemy supplies to siachin. Hard to understand ?

Four days later, on June 17, another important breakthrough in the joint campaign was achieved when a formation of 7 Squadron Mirage 2000Hs struck and destroyed the enemy’s main administrative and logistics encampment at Muntho Dhalo in the Batalik sector by means of accurately placed 1,000-pound general-purpose bombs delivered in high-angle dive attacks using the aircraft’s computer-assisted weapons-aiming capability. For this pivotal attack, the IAF waited until the encampment had grown to a size that rendered it strategically ripe for such targeting. The AOC-in-C of Western Air Command at the time, Air Marshal Patney, affirmed later that the essentially total destruction by the IAF of the NLI’s rudimentary but absolutely life-sustaining infrastructure at Muntho Dhalo “paralyzed the enemy war effort, as it was their major supply depot.”68 In characterizing the attack as “perhaps the most spectacular of all the [campaign’s air] strikes,” a serving IAF air commodore reported at the end of 1999 that it resulted in as many as 300 enemy casualties within just minutes.69 Figure 3 shows pre- and post-strike aerial imagery of the enemy camp at Muntho Dhalo. In the first image, a dense array of tents and structures, as well as tracks leading up the hillside from the encampment, are clearly visible. In the second, after completion of the IAF’s attacks, all that remain are bomb craters and rubble.

Fig3-490.jpg


This is the link.

http://carnegieendowment.org/2012/09/20/airpower-at-18-000-indian-air-force-in-kargil-war/dvc4#
Big colorful fonts doesn't make your post more credible, there's simply no logic in stationing hundreds of troops near an ammo depot at best of times, what to say of during a conflict and that too in hostile territory....one wonders what were the Indian causality figure after these pinpoint strikes.

Pak artillery strikes Indian Army barracks. 4 June 1999

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Indian supply road comes under Pakistani shelling. The capture of different strategic Indian posts had cut off road to Siachen glacier.
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smoke rises from Indian Doordarshan television relay center in Kargil after getting hit by Pakistani Artillery shelling. 1 June 1999

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Yar aik baat samajh main nahi aai. Pehli bar "intrusion" honay k baad dosri "intrusion" main bilkul achambhay main kaisy pakray gaey? Pehli karwai ki nashay main ki thi?

I think General Bakhshi has a character similar to Jailer (Angrez ke Zamane ka Jailer)....
In order to boost his efficiency he spill out every minor detail of humiliation and unprofessional negligence faced by indian army....
And that didn't go well with the script, which he was trying to write on the spot....
 

Why not we let the man speak for himself?


I really wonder how such powerful NS has to live in exile because of your not so powerful army chief who has to retreat from kargil because of his diktat

I know logic makes little sense to you Indians especially when you are bombarded with a daily dose of Pakistani Military Adventures etc. but be advised that the Army was still working under the mandate of the Political Government and hence the Army Chief obeyed the command of the competent authority and withdrew his forces.
 
Yar aik baat samajh main nahi aai. Pehli bar "intrusion" honay k baad dosri "intrusion" main bilkul achambhay main kaisy pakray gaey? Pehli karwai ki nashay main ki thi?
Here he is talking about intrusions in 1991 .

Second intrusion was in 1998 that led to kargil war .
 
Here he is talking about intrusions in 1991 .

Second intrusion was in 1998 that led to kargil war .

Its not about two different intrusions of 1991 and 1999....
Its about two intrusions in the same place and same manner....
Every professional army maintains logs and records of battle tactics and battle events which relate to military....
Recently indian army retreat from Doklam, but Chinese are increasing their man power in that area because Chinese learn from the incident which occur at Doklam and it will not be easy for indians to face Chinese in the same area in the future....
 
Its not about two different intrusions of 1991 and 1999....
Its about two intrusions in the same place and same manner....

Watch his full video .
He cleary states he was talking incidents that happend in 1990 and 1991 . Kargil war was in 1998 .

 
Watch his full video .
He cleary states he was talking incidents that happend in 1990 and 1991 . Kargil war was in 1998 .

I am referring to the point which fitpositive raised about how it it possible to show such negligence in 1998 by indian army, if there is already an example found in the history (1991)....

And i am aware of the full content of video because it was shared by me....:P
 
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