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Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

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For all the faults in America, it is a far more free country then continental Europeans. I have much more respect for the UK society though.
It seems tyranny is deep inside Europeans and the first time I notice that was barely 2-3 years ago during the global Covid crisis.
Thanks to the American founding fathers who fought government tyranny and wrote the American Constitution to prevent it. They also desired independence from sucking up to foreign powers. I don't think in today's America they could come up with such a document. We are in an age of nationalism in which ideologies take precedence over individual life and dignity, and thus government tyranny is rampant in many countries, some worse than others.
 
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As someone who votes for the President, don't you think I know something about our foreign policy? At least a little better than someone who lives on the other side of the planet? The reason for sending two carrier groups is to deter any attack. It is like a security guy carrying a gun. His purpose is to prevent an attack.
Every one who are interested in geopolitics understand US foreign policy and behavior. Muslim in particular have already follow this Palestinian - Israel conflict since we are kids. Unlike you, Muslims have deep interest with this kind of conflict and US always there to support Israel.
 
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Who is Yahya Sinwar Hamas leader in Gaza.


This person actually did 5 life sentences in Israeli prison , for murdering palestinians not Israelis.

He had a reputation for torturing people he suspected of collaborating , which gave him the nickname , the butcher of khan yunis.

While in prison he was actually treated for brain cancer and having his life saved by Israel , before being released in the shalit deal.






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Every one who are interested in geopolitics understand US foreign policy and behavior. Muslim in particular have already follow this Palestinian - Israel conflict since we are kids. Unlike you, Muslims have deep interest with this kind of conflict and US always there to support Israel.
Yes, Support for Israel does not equate join a war lightly. President alone can't decide. Congress has to support the decision. How many wars has U.S. started in the Middle East? Kuwait war of 1990 was started after Iraq attacked Kuwait, with an alliance of many countries, including most Arab/Muslim countries. Iraq war of 2003 was essentially a continuation of old war against Saddam on wrong information about WMD after 9/11. It is generally considered as a blunder by most people. Afghanistan war against Taliban was started to wipe out Al-Qaeda which was hiding there.
 
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Who is Yahya Sinwar Hamas leader in Gaza.


This person actually did 5 life sentences in Israeli prison , for murdering palestinians not Israelis.

He had a reputation for torturing people je suspected of collaborating , which gave him the nickname , the butcher of khan yunis.

While in prison he was actually treated for brain cancer and having his life saved by Israel , before being released in the shalit deal.






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Who is Yahya Sinwar Hamas leader in Gaza.


This person actually did 5 life sentences in Israeli prison , for murdering palestinians not Israelis.

He had a reputation for torturing people je suspected of collaborating , which gave him the nickname , the butcher of khan yunis.

While in prison he was actually treated for brain cancer and having his life saved by Israel , before being released in the shalit deal.






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He's a great leader.
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I know next to nothing about you. You are said to be quite private, a man of few words. You rarely speak with journalists. And actually, this is your first time you're speaking with Western media. But you have been leading Hamas for more than a year. Why did you choose to speak now?

"Because now I see a real opportunity for change."

An opportunity? Now?

"Now. Yes."

To be honest, what looks most likely here is rather a new war. I was in Gaza last June, and it was just as usual: flying bullets, tear gas, wounded everywhere. And then airstrikes, rockets, more airstrikes. A golden opportunity to get shot. Since April, since the start of this latest wave of protests, you've had nearly 200 dead.

"While on the other side, there was only one dead. And so, first of all, I would say that 'war' is quite a misleading word: it's not that there is a war at some point, and on the other days we have peace instead. We are always under occupation, it's a daily aggression. It's just of varying intensity. But anyway, the truth is that a new war is in no one's interest. For sure, it's not in ours. Who would like to face a nuclear power with slingshots? But if we can't win—for Netanyahu a victory would be even worse than a defeat, because it would be the fourth war. It can't end as the third one, which already ended as the second one, which already ended as the first one. They should take over Gaza. And they are trying their best to get rid of the Palestinians of the West Bank and keep a Jewish majority. I don't think they want an additional two million Arabs. No. War achieves nothing."


It sounds a bit odd, coming from someone from Hamas's military wing.

"I am not the leader of a militia, I'm from Hamas. And that's it. I am the Gaza leader of Hamas, of something much more complex than a militia—a national liberation movement. And my main duty is to act in the interest of my people: to defend it and its right to freedom and independence. You are a war correspondent. Do you like war?"


Not at all.

"And so why should I? Whoever knows what war is, doesn't like war."

But you have been fighting for all your life.

"And I am not saying I won't fight anymore, indeed. I am saying that I don't want war anymore. I want the end of the siege. You walk to the beach at sunset, and you see all these teenagers on the shore chatting and wondering what the world looks like across the sea. What life looks like. It's breaking. And should break everybody. I want them free."

Borders have been basically sealed-off for 11 years. Gaza doesn't even have water anymore, only sea water. How is living here?

"What do you think? 55 percent of the population is under 15. We are not speaking of terrorists, we are speaking of kids. They have no political affiliation. They have just fear. I want them free."

80 percent of the population depends on aid. And 50 percent is food insecure—50 percent is hungry. According to the UN, Gaza will soon be unfit to live in. Yet still in recent years Hamas has found resources to dig its tunnels.


"And luckily. Otherwise we would all be dead. The way you see it, it's the way the Zionist propaganda tells it. The siege didn't come after the tunnels; it wasn't a reaction to tunnels. It's the other way round. There was a siege and a humanitarian crisis, and to survive we had no other option than digging tunnels. There were times when even milk was banned."

You know what I mean. Don't you think you bear some responsibility?

"Responsibility is on the besieger, not on the besieged. My responsibility is to work with whoever can help us to end this deadly and unjust siege, and I am thinking especially on the international community. Because Gaza can't go on like this, the situation here is unsustainable. And in this way, an explosion (escalation) is unavoidable."

So why you don't buy milk, rather than guns?

"If we hadn't bought (guns), we wouldn't be alive by now. We've bought it, don't worry. We've bought milk, and much else: food, medicine. We are 2 million. Do you have any idea what does it mean to get food and medicine for 2 million people? Tunnels are used only minimally for resistance—and because otherwise you may not die of hunger, but you would die of airstrikes. And Hamas pays for resistance out of its own pocket, not with public funds. Out of its own pocket."

So Hamas has been doing well in government.

"What do you think, that being in power in Gaza is like being in power in Paris? We have been in power for years in many municipalities, exactly because of our reputation for efficiency and transparency. Then in 2006 we won the general elections, and we were blacklisted. There is no electricity, it's true, and this affects everything else. But do you think that we have no engineers? That we are unable to build a turbine? Of course we do. But how? With sand? You can have the best surgeon in town, but you are pretending he can operate with fork and knife. Look at your skin, it's already peeling away. Here if you arrive from outside, if you arrive from the world, you get sick straight away. What should grab your eye is that we are still alive

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Unfortunately Palestine is already lost until the end of times war. Israel is a nuclear state which will nuke anyone that threatens their existence. Regarding disarming PIJ and Hamas, Egypt needs to first negotiate with them for a solution, if they disagree then fair enough Egypt cannot do much when the locals are not accepting Egyptian rule.

Looking at the current situation, Israel wants to destroy hamas and PIJ and then expand the Israeli settlements to capture more land, soon enough they will create a smaller gaza and smaller west Bank and then slowly annex it all. How does that help Palestine? With Egypt overtaking atleast we will know it will be a stalemate and Israel cannot harm the Palestinians anymore, nor it can expand.


This is the End Times dumb dumb.
 
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If Egypt opened up the border I am sure the Palestinian women and children would leave, but Egypt are refusing to.
Was the border closed in previous Gaza-Israel wars? If not, why did they not leave Gaza then?
 
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These people are disgraceful. Allah swt sent the final messenger to these people to change their ways and yet they still defy god.

Imagine being a lower life form than even bani Israel. The Saudis have sealed their fate to hellfire for eternity. May Allah swt give them hidayat.

May Allah Burn Saudi Arabia next. Inshallah. The kafirs nation of Saudi Arabia. As a Sunni, I am ashamed to say Iran is more Muslim than the Saudis. Haramzaday Saudis.
 
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Hei dude, you guys talk about other Muslim as if you are the most Islam compared to them.

Dude, if you want to talk about Israel in the end time, at least follow hadiths about it. What prophet said about it ? Who will defeat Israel ?

This Hamas doesnt believe on that Hadith and think they can win

Hei dude, you guys talk about other Muslim as if you are the most Islam compared to them.

Dude, if you want to talk about Israel in the end time, at least follow hadiths about it. What prophet said about it ? Who will defeat Israel ?

This Hamas doesnt believe on that Hadith and think they can win
 
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May Allah Burn Saudi Arabia next. Inshallah. The kafirs nation of Saudi Arabia. As a Sunni, I am ashamed to say Iran is more Muslim than the Saudis. Haramzaday Saudis.
Calm your nerves brother. We can't do takfeer on anyone. They're misguided at the moment, some of them, but it does not take them out fold of Islam. Inshallah Palestine will be victorious. We will see coming days what happens.

Hei dude, you guys talk about other Muslim as if you are the most Islam compared to them.

Dude, if you want to talk about Israel in the end time, at least follow hadiths about it. What prophet said about it ? Who will defeat Israel ?

This Hamas doesnt believe on that Hadith and think they can win
Agree only Allah knows what's in people's hearts and how they practice and what not.

Although Hamas follows Sha'fiee madhab and definitely believes in ahadeeth. Ahadeeth does not suggest anything about Israel's fate. We have to actively work to end the occupation. Hadeeth is mercy from Allah to give us patience in the end times and not lost hope in him. It's not detailed look into future. Lots of details is hidden from us and is among the unseen knowledge of Allah(SWT). Even if we saw major signs, we should still go into it as we have no knowledge of anything to happen.
 
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