Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

[Falcon29]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1719385951108043222

 

[mulj]

You should have gone for JF17 Block 2 or Blk 3s with PL15 180kms missile much advance than anything out there.. i dont get somehow what egyptians are thinking... they are clearly way behind in Airforce from Israel, they had a better chance of fighting when they were russian ally, now a laughing stock after getting defanged by the west just like Pakistan...

Dude, they consider Serbia armament is advancement, that tells you state of the mind of their military think tankers here.
Really said situation.

 

[khansaheeb]

I am all for compresmise .

But who are we going to compremise with ? Hamas ?

They vow to continue fighting till the last inch of Palestian is liberated . That does not leave much room for compremise , does it ?

They best they are willing to offer is a ceasefire , or hudna, This means that every two years we have a new blood cycle.

People talk a lot about the Plestinain- Israeli conflict , but relatively speaking , compared to other conflicts in the region s , the level of voilence and number of casualties over a span of 70 years , are stlll relativly small.

Some red lines have never been crossed , untill what happened on that massacre 3 weeks ago , Saterday , the 7 of October.

Looks like someone is delibretly trying to turn this conflict into a blood feud that can't be resolved.

Otherwise i see no logical explanation to that Saturday morning massacre.




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When a Jew talks about comprise it means they must be losing.

Top UN official resigns over body’s failure to stop ‘genocide’ of Palestinians

A top UN human rights official has resigned over the body’s failure to stop the Israeli genocide of Palestinians

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31 Oct, 2023 21:59
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Top UN official resigns over body’s failure to stop ‘genocide’ of Palestinians​

The organization has “surrendered to the power of the US” and given in to the “Israeli lobby,” Craig Mokhiber has said

Flames and smoke rise in Tel al-Hawa neighborhof the Gaza City on October 30, 2023. (Photo by via Getty Images) © Getty Images / Anadolu Agency / Ali Jadallah
The director of the UN’s human rights office (OHCHR) in New York, Craig Mokhiber, has resigned from his post, citing the body’s failure to properly address the Israel-Palestine crisis. Instead of doing its job, the UN has “surrendered to the power of the US” and given in to the “Israeli lobby,” while the “European, ethno-nationalist, settler colonial project in Palestine has entered its final phase,” the senior official argued.
“Once again, we are seeing a genocide unfolding before our eyes, and the Organization that we serve appears powerless to stop it,” Mokhiber said in a letter to UN High Commissioner on Human Rights Volker Turk, published on Tuesday.
The official squarely described the ongoing Israeli action in the Gaza Strip as “genocide,” acknowledging that this word “has often been subject to political abuse.”
“But the current wholesale slaughter of the Palestinian people, rooted in an ethno-nationalist settler colonial ideology … leaves no room for doubt or debate,” Mokhiber argued.

This is a text-book case of genocide. The European, ethno-nationalist, settler colonial project in Palestine has entered its final phase, toward the expedited destruction of the last remnants of indigenous Palestinian life in Palestine.

The governments of the US, the UK, and “much of Europe are wholly complicit in the horrific assault,” not only through a mere failure to fulfill their international obligations but by “actively arming the assault, providing economic and intelligence support, and giving political and diplomatic cover for Israel’s atrocities,” Mokhiber stated. The “cover” is further reinforced by “Western corporate media, increasingly captured and state-adjacent,” which has been “continuously dehumanizing Palestinians to facilitate the genocide, and broadcasting propaganda for war and advocacy of national, racial, or religious hatred,” he stressed.

Mokhiber believes the UN used to have “principles” and “authority” rooted in the body’s “integrity,” such as during apartheid in South Africa, but it has lost all of the above over the years. The UN has repeatedly failed to stop genocides, Mokhiber noted, listing events in Rwanda and Bosnia, the genocide of the Yazidis by the Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS), and the Rohingya in Myanmar as examples.
READ MORE: EU may become complicit in ‘genocide’ – Spanish official
“In recent decades, key parts of the UN have surrendered to the power of the US and to the fear of the Israel Lobby, to abandon these principles, and to retreat from international law itself. We have lost a lot in this abandonment, not least our own global credibility. But the Palestinian people have sustained the biggest losses as a result of our failures,” he stated.
To fix the situation, the UN should “learn from the principled stance taken in cities around the world in recent days as masses of people stand up against the genocide, even at risk of beatings and arrest,” he suggested. Apart from that, he called upon the body to drop the “illusory two-state solution,” advocating the creation of a “single, democratic, secular state in all of historic Palestine,” which would ensure the “dismantling” of Israel, described by the official as a “deeply racist, settler-colonial project.”
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[Falcon29]

Lol, if you don't stop people from supporting Palestinians another holocaust will happen. Please allow us to undertake our genocide and ethnic cleansing campaign without any blowback.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1719542033260372215

 

[HGV]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1719502872940068985

 

[Total Destruction]

But Sisi and his colleagues can look left and down on the map and say, no, we don't want 'That'. That is why they, and not some random dudes from the streets, are the leaders.

leaders? Lol
lets see for how long he is gonna be a leaders

 

[Falcon29]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1719139379774693715

 

[sammuel]

Hamas has a right to exist. Hamas is a legitimate movement. You have no right to say Hamas must not exist or Palestinians can't have arms. If you ignite conflicts and break ceasefires, then you are responsible for outbreaks of violence.

Hamas is saying Israel has no right to exist.

Do you see me saying Palestine does not have a right to exist ? No.

If Hamas has any solution to this conflict that involves mutual recognistion , I would love to hear about it.

So far we have seen nothing of the sort , they only gets more extreme.

As for breaking the ceasefire, so you think that murdering 1300 of our civilians and kidnapping 240 of them , does not constitute breaking of the ceasefire ?

For two years we had a ceasefire.Money was transfered from Qatar , workers from Gaza started to come and work inside Israel again.

And all that time Hamas was keeping a low proffile , planning his attack.

They took all the money aimed at rebuilding Gaza and wasted it all on tunnels and rockets.

How do you sum up the 17 years of Hamas rule in Gaza now ?

Can you say that people's life in Gaza are much better now , after 17 years of Hamas rule ?


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[HGV]

Hamas is saying Israel has no right to exist.

Do you see me seeing Plestine does not have a right to exist ? No.

In 1993 the PLO not only recognised Israel, but also the invented concept of the "right to exist". Does Israel accept Palestine's right to exist?






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Mujahids are enjoying it full lol

They sure are now.

 

[Total Destruction]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1719139379774693715

 

[khansaheeb]

What similarities there are between the massacres of the JEws in Nazi Germany and the massacres of Palestinians in Nazi Israel. Oh Jews don't you have empathy, shame and a conscience?

 

[Falcon29]

Eyewitnesses: The resistance destroyed an occupation armored vehicle penetrating east of the Al-Zaytoun neighborhood, setting it on fire

https://twitter.com/x/status/1719604850684572107

Eyewitnesses: The resistance destroyed an occupation armored vehicle penetrating east of the Al-Zaytoun neighborhood, setting it on fire

https://twitter.com/x/status/1719604850684572107

Follow Safa| Al-Qassam: We destroyed a Zionist vehicle penetrating east of the Al-Zaytoun neighborhood with a “Yassin 105” missile and it caught fire.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1719604746212843590

 

[khansaheeb]

For what reason? War is not fought for bragging rights.

What can North Korea do by the way? Nuke Seoul? I would like to see it try. The argument cut both ways, bro.

Bro we have seen big talk in Vietnam and Afghanistan where victory was announced on many a news broadcasts but the reality hidden behind smoke and mirrors.

 

[sammuel]

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Yes, I did.

“Hamas considers the establishment of a Palestinian state, sovereign and complete, on the basis of the June 4, 1967, with Jerusalem as its capital and the provision for all the refugees to return to their homeland is an agreeable form that has won a consensus among all the movement members,” Meshaal said.

Hamas accepts Palestinian state with 1967 borders

Khaled Meshaal presents a new document in which Hamas accepts 1967 borders without recognising state of Israel.

www.aljazeera.com

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You are being ridiculous now ,

You can't quate one line of out of context and ignor the rest. Again your own source.

Off course they are willing to declare a palestinian state on 1967 for now , and than continue their ambition to destroy us . NOWHEREE ARE THEY SAYING THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO END THIS CONFLICT. NOWHERE.

I DARE YOU TO BRING US ONE PLACE WHERE THEY SAY THEY ARE WILLING TO END THE CONFLICT NO MATTER WHAT WE AGREE TO.

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Again that is from your own source , which i will now have to post here fully , since You are trying to decieve people here , by bringing us , just one line of your choosing to distort the truth.

You sould be ashamed of yourself.

Hamas accepts Palestinian state with 1967 borders​

Khaled Meshaal presents a new document in which Hamas accepts 1967 borders without recognising state of Israel.
Hamas has presented a new political document that accepts the formation of a Palestinian state along the 1967 borders, without recognising the statehood of Israel, and says that the conflict in Palestine is not a religious one.

The positions were made official on Monday in Qatar’s capital, Doha, by Khaled Meshaal, the leader-in-exile of the Palestinian group that runs the besieged Gaza Strip.

“We shall not waive an inch of the Palestinian home soil, no matter what the recent pressures are and no matter how long the occupation,” Meshaal said as he revealed the document to the public after two years of work.

Your source :

Hamas accepts Palestinian state with 1967 borders

Khaled Meshaal presents a new document in which Hamas accepts 1967 borders without recognising state of Israel.

www.aljazeera.com

In other words Hamas wants us to recognise a Pslestinian state , but refuses to recognise us or to end the conflict . even if we do that ,

You want us to recognise your right to exsit , but refuse to recognise ours.

Does that sounds reasonable to you ?



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