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Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

Pakistan.....

Say something loud and clear.

You have been missing in all of this apart from sending aid and issuing press releases.

Don't be a spectator.

Take Arabs, Turks and Iranians in confidence and make a move.
 
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Read the red bold of what you posted, that's an endorsement. Unless they teach you a special form of English comprehension we don't know.
That supports immigration to the fortcoming Mandate. Combined with the second statement, it is not support for a Jewish state.
 
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The Israeli army is close to exhaustion after 18 days of war, according to the US

The operation in the Gaza Strip could take months, require significant military forces, and “the Israeli army is already at its limit,” Vice reports, citing senior American officials and the Israeli military.

They are loosing against resistance, InshAllah Free Palestine.

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Why are they exhausted, they have only been bombing from aircraft?
 
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dig deeper December 1882 during a wedding an immigrant Romanian Jewish guard of newly formed settlement of Rosh Pina opened fire on the attendant and killed an Arab Guy from Safed that result in the one of the first recorded clash between Arabs and Jews in recent History
This started by the Arab grabbing a gun from a Romanian Jew And there was a fight in which the Arab got killed.


I must say mr Gardener,that I`m rather surprised that you dont remember this famous exchange..... 🤨

"Col. Summers, then the chief of the U.S. delegation's negotiating team, was chatting with his North Vietnamese counterpart, Col. Tu. 'You know, you never defeated us on the battlefield,' Col. Summers said. 'That may be so,' Col. Tu replied, 'but it's also irrelevant.'"
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That comment is of course irrelevant for the question at hand.
 
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I don’t believe this

US is too weak to fight Russia and Iran together

Most likely US has told Israel not to go in from the ground after Hezbollah promised to level Tel Aviv with 200,000 rockets

Israeli leaders move Washington leaders around like a fickle. May be they're pushing Biden to undertake this regional conflict. If the conflict stops now & ceasefire takes place, they will have to negotiate with Hamas with prisoner exchange. For all of their talk about "destroying Hamas", that means a defeat. So they are looking for ways to broaden the conflict and get others involved in on Israelis' behalf.

Now, this idiot Macron of France is claiming to be working on building a coalition whose goal is to fight Hamas. As you can see, they see their image shattered as the Israelis can't risk undertaking a ground invasion of their own. So they're making all of the announcements, some of which could be psychological though. They want to scare any other country or group who may want to interfere on the Palestinian people's behalf.


Last night, there are reports that the Houthis in Yemen attacked an American warship. That puts the whole Red Sea under the umbrella of Yemen resistance's missile rain. So when you add all of these statements coming from Western leaders, there is definitely a panic. There is also the element of looking strong and that could mean a new escalation.

 
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What's the problem with that? Are you saying you are failing to rationalize it?

No, i understand why Hamas did it perfectly. Politics in the region was changing against Palestinians and they had to do something big to reset it all. As I said earlier, this episode of conflict is a victory for Hamas if it retain gaza in its entirety. Israel lost its deterrence and it's upto them to re-establish it. They will have to either capture Gaza partially and "shrink" it or they have to invade all of Gaza and wipe out Hamas to re-establish deterrence.

10 or 20k dead Palestinians in air raids is not a loss for hamas, they are willing to take that loss. What they cannot accept is loss of territory.
 
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This started by the Arab grabbing a gun from a Romanian Jew And there was a fight in which the Arab got killed.



That comment is of course irrelevant for the question at hand.
Romanian illegal emigrarant killed a local person. As Swede, it would be logical that you support the locals. Afterall, the hate towards immigrants is your one and only political view? Isn't it?
 
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Al-Qassam Brigades bombed Tel Aviv in response to the Zionist massacres against civilians

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The Times:

While reserve soldiers are being recruited in Israel, Israeli PM Netanyahu's son - Yair Netenyahu - hasn't returned from Miami and hasn't joined the IDF despite his reserve soldier status.

"Yair is enjoying his life at Miami Beach while I'm on the front lines," one soldier, a volunteer serving on Israel's northern front, told The Times.

"It's us who are leaving our work, our families, our kids, to protect our families back home and the country, not the people who are responsible for this situation. Our brothers, our fathers, sons, are all going to the front line, but Yair is still not here. It does not help build trust in the leadership of the country."

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No, i understand why Hamas did it perfectly. Politics in the region was changing against Palestinians and they had to do something big to reset it all. As I said earlier, this episode of conflict is a victory for Hamas if it retain gaza in its entirety. Israel lost its deterrence and it's upto them to re-establish it. They will have to either capture Gaza partially and "shrink" it or they have to invade all of Gaza and wipe out Hamas to re-establish deterrence.

10 or 20k dead Palestinians in air raids is not a loss for hamas, they are willing to take that loss. What they cannot accept is loss of territory.

You failed to rationalize it, partly because of your own view about value of life and failing to understand other people's value. You are putting everything on the huge number of deaths and how Hamas doesn't care.

Muslims don't see loss of life through the same lens of non-Muslims. Jihadi concept is all about sacrifice and Muslims don't consider losing life in this world a big deal.
 
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Now, this idiot Macron of France is claiming to be working on building a coalition whose goal is to fight Hamas. As you can see, they see their image shattered as the Israelis can't risk undertaking a ground invasion of their own. So they're making all of the announcements, some of which could be psychological though. They want to scare any other country or group who may want to interfere on the Palestinian people's behalf.

Israelis are so pathetic they want a international coalition built for them. Proves they aren't from the region. And don't have the love of the land nor the courage to fight for it. They need to all be deported to Europe.
 
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