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Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023


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Turkey recalls ambassador from Israel​

Turkey joins regional states Bahrain and Jordan in pulling ambassadors from Israel.
Recep Tayyip Erdogan delivers a speech.


On Friday night, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan was quoted by Turkish media saying: “[Israeli Prime Minister] Netanyahu is no longer someone we can talk to. We have written him off.” | Adem Altan/AFP/Getty Images
By GISELLE RUHIYYIH EWING
11/04/2023 02:05 PM EDT



Turkey recalled its ambassador to Israel on Saturday morning, citing the “humanitarian tragedy” in Gaza and “Israel’s refusal of calls for ceasefire.”
Turkey joins regional states Bahrain and Jordan in pulling ambassadors from Israel in protest against the Israeli government’s bombardment of neighboring Gaza in the four weeks since Hamas’ Oct. 7 cross-border attack.
On Friday night, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan was quoted by Turkish media saying: “[Israeli Prime Minister] Netanyahu is no longer someone we can talk to. We have written him off.”


The move is the latest step Turkey has taken to distance itself from Israel, however, it does not appear to represent a full severing of diplomatic relations between the two countries.
“Complete disconnection is not possible, especially in international diplomacy,” Erdogan said. “But Netanyahu bears the main responsibility for the violence. What he needs to do is take a step back and stop it.”
Israel’s ambassador to Ankara, Irit Lillian, left Turkey in October following a warning from Israel’s National Security Council against travel to Turkey, citing fears that Israelis could be targeted by protesters.
“In view of the unfolding humanitarian tragedy in Gaza caused by the continuing attacks by Israel against civilians, and Israel’s refusal of calls for ceasefire and continuous and unhindered flow of humanitarian aid, it was decided to recall our Ambassador in Tel Aviv, H.E. Mr. Sakir Ozkan Torunlar, to Ankara for consultations,” the Turkish Ministry of Foreign Affairs said in a statement.
Turkey’s statement comes within hours of an announcement from Secretary of State Antony Blinken that he would visit Turkey as part of his extended recent travels to the region.
A State Department news release Saturday morning outlined Blinken’s goals in Turkey as underscoring “the importance of protecting civilian lives in Israel and the Gaza Strip,” including humanitarian assistance.
The statement also emphasized Blinken’s goal to “reduce regional tensions and reaffirm the U.S. commitment to working with partners to set the conditions necessary for a durable and sustainable peace in the Middle East, to include the establishment of a Palestinian state.”
 
No, resident Indian. It's very clear Palestinians in the West Bank are fighting for their survival and Israel is committing a literal genocide before your eyes
I am by no means envious, but it does feel weird that Indians, who didn't send even a peashooter to Israel, get to 'enjoy' being the target of much hate while we have to pay the tab for this tragedy.
 
By Writing Netanyahu off does it mean Turkey intend to assassinate him?

I am by no means envious, but it does feel weird that Indians, who didn't send even a peashooter to Israel, get to 'enjoy' being the target of much hate while we have to pay the tab for this tragedy.
Indians and Israel have close relationship in defense but it's mostly done through US.
 
But they've evacuated everybody from that town. It is deserted now.
They even withdrew Iron Dome from Sderot to conserve inventory of Tamir interceptors

At least Hamas can cause large destruction to civilian infrastructure in Sderot like Israel is doing in Gaza if it so chooses
 
I know little about warfare, so I am curious why IDF is not using Helicopter gunships if 'they are afraid to walk in the open'? It can be used as a tank or APC in the air safe from most handheld weapons.
Helicopters are useless in dense, tightly packed spaces where buildings on either side of a street can be up to 10+ stories tall. Armored vehicles are also limited in their ability. Infantry on the ground is crucial.

Helicopters can also become easy targets for manpads. So many holes and hiding spots are present, both in the buildings and in the rubble, that somebody can quickly pop out, shoot a rocket and disappear within a minute. This is exactly how vehicles are being targeted. IDF on the field has no idea what is in that little street or hole in front of them or behind them or beside them or underneath them. The fear is real.

The buildings and rubble are a major obstacle in the ability to use many of your advanced systems for tracking movement, i.e. radars, infrared.
 
Helicopters are useless in dense, tightly packed spaces where buildings on either side of a street can be up to 10+ stories tall. Armored vehicles are also limited in their ability. Infantry on the ground is crucial.

Helicopters can also become easy targets for manpads. So many holes and hiding spots are present, both in the buildings and in the rubble, that somebody can quickly pop out, shoot a rocket and disappear within a minute. This is exactly how vehicles are being targeted. IDF on the field has no idea what is in that little street or hole in front of them or behind them or beside them or underneath them. The fear is real.

The buildings and rubble are a major obstacle in the ability to use many of your advanced systems for tracking movement, i.e. radars, infrared.
Fear is also generated by what the NATO forces attested to as a tactic employed by Taliban: continuous hit and run. The victim goes crazy and ends up as easy targets later.
 
Helicopters are useless in dense, tightly packed spaces where buildings on either side of a street can be up to 10+ stories tall. Armored vehicles are also limited in their ability. Infantry on the ground is crucial.

Helicopters can also become easy targets for manpads. So many holes and hiding spots are present, both in the buildings and in the rubble, that somebody can quickly pop out, shoot a rocket and disappear within a minute. This is exactly how vehicles are being targeted. IDF on the field has no idea what is in that little street or hole in front of them or behind them or beside them or underneath them. The fear is real.

The buildings and rubble are a major obstacle in the ability to use many of your advanced systems for tracking movement, i.e. radars, infrared.
It's Muslim World's Stalingrad, only difference is there is no liberating army in the horizon.

Another bare faced liar.
 
**** urself .... This was from an incident when israel entered gaza and shot people on road.... Bastard,,,,, All of your shit is fake.... Admins plz ban!

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No , this is a clip from yesterday.

They first tried to sell it as air raid , though clearly those seen , died from gun wounds.

Hamas has been trying to stop people from leaving Gaza city to the south , already two weeks ago ., There where images posted here , of road blocks he set to to stop convoys of civlians.

On the Other hand it was Israel interest to see Gaza city empty from civilians , that is why they where asked to leave already two weeks ago.

All taht time Hamas sent massages to them to stay , set up road blocks to try and stop them and now is shooting Palestinians leaving or those carrying the whilte flag.

Kindly point out what is fake about this :



Video shows Gaza civilians shot by Hamas as they were trying to evacuate to safety, New York post Reports


Disturbing footage shows northern Gaza street strewn with bodies of Palestinians, allegedly gunned down by Hamas snipers; 'They want to use them as human shields and will kill anyone who attempts to leave,' journalist claims​


A disturbing video posted on social media platform X (formerly Twitter) supposedly depicts a street in Gaza with at least 12 Palestinian civilians lying dead on the ground after Hamas opened fire at them for trying to flee from their homes in the northern Strip, the New York Post reported Friday.

Satellite images indicate that IDF forces were positioned at least two kilometers from the location where the video was filmed. An aircraft struck an ambulance in the Gaza Strip on Friday, which, according to intelligence was being used by a specific Hamas unit closely positioned to the combat zone. On Saturday, Hamas terrorists attacked IDF soldiers who secured a humanitarian corridor on Salah al-Din Road in the Gaza Strip for the civilians of northern Gaza who haven’t yet evacuated to the Strip’s south for their safety.



The video source had sensitive content, which is why I didn't upload it. As you can see from the post, the usual one to blame.

They said, "airstrikes"? Does this look like airstrikes ?



In the video itself, a resident is filming himself arriving on the gruesome scene on his bicycle, mourning the loss of civilians as he focuses on the various bodies strewn on the street. The original poster argues that the civilians were killed in an Israeli airstrike.

According to the New York Post, author and journalist Amjad Taha made a separate post following the video in which he reported that the victims were a few of “dozens” of Palestinian civilians in northern Gaza who were killed by Hamas snipers because they “did not want citizens to leave.”

“They want to use them as human shields and will kill anyone who attempts to leave. Hamas terrorists in Gaza will, as usual, blame #Israel because it is easy and there is media that accepts this propaganda,” Taha wrote on his X account

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Footage purportedly showing Palestinians shot by Hamas
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In a follow-up post accompanied by the original video, Taha dismisses claims that Israeli bombardment caused the carnage, pointing out the absence of cratering or evidence of exploded ordnance in the footage.

As you can see from the post, the usual one to blame. They said, 'airstrikes'? Does this look like airstrikes?" he wrote.

The video comes following Israeli reports that the terrorist organization is threatening residents in Gaza and placing roadblocks on main roads along the northern Strip in an attempt to limit the movement of Palestinians from their homes to safe areas in southern Gaza.




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