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Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

Well, sad thing is, they were.......Biden was considered pro-Palestine before this (well, maybe not pro-palestine but certainly not pro-Israel) and I doubt he and Benny are even on talking term.

The problem is, when you see people have nothing to do with this conflict getting killed in this conflict and that's not going to end well for whoever that started it. You can't talk until the situation is stabilised, and a lot of people are going to die to have the situation stabilised. As I said before, I respect Arafat when he is famously washing his hands on UN and ask for a peaceful approach, that's the right way to go, that get people behind your clause, not when you are shooting up a rave party and posted them on Telegram or parading people with their hands bind behinde their back, that loses support, not gaining it.
I take that as act of sheer desperation from Hamas part, as i mentioned if you follow up news for past few years its hard to deny that posture of Israel and IDF has increase in aggressive, we have seen illegal settlements, attacks on Palestinian villages, kids been shot dead, journalists and medics without anyone from international community even dare to bring a resolution in UN to condemn it, and if someone manage to do something USA always VETO it, now in desperate situation people/nations/Organizations take desperate measures, but if we put ourselves in Hamas shoes and think, for them they always are losing the propaganda war, not only them but Palestinian cause has little to no support in west, so for them its a do something and die, or do nothing but still die.
 
It could be a message to Lebanon to take the necessary measures, yes. It seems to me that this deployment is a stance of resolute support. So it's a message to nobody to get involved. So Israel is going to give a very bloody response.

You are probably right.
And also that proves that the 'tiny Israel' is not so tiny when it can call for the mightiest military and economic power and their powerful allies in the human history to Israel's aid.
But, again, what's Lebanon and Syria to lose?? They are already in shambles. Strike while the iron is hot. It is not my call being at a safe distance myself, but looking objectively, I don't think those countries could be much worse than they are. Maybe a lot to gain.
The status quo in the Middle East can't go on forever. It has been wishful thinking for many countries in the Middle East and the West to make the status quo go to but I see an opening for China and Russia to take advantage of the situation in the Middle East.
BTW, it is not necessarily my wishful thinking. I am explaining the chessboard as I personally see it to be.
 
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Are they supposed to stay at hotels or something or is the State paying for some place?
They must be settling in hotels, I don't know, but it has only been 24 hours since the war started and refugees have started arriving. We now know if there is a war nearby by the density at Antalya and Istanbul airports.
 
So, you are saying those video of Hamas taking children out of people home and killing all these people running from a rave party are all fake? They are all Israel propaganda?

And oh yes, there are gonna be more collateral from now on, you can bet on that.
They are illegal settlers with no rights, children were not harmed
 
You didn't tell the whole story:

During the First Gulf War, it was revealed that German firms had assisted Iraq with modernizing its ballistic missile and chemical weapon programs, thanks in part to lax enforcement by German customs, in violation of the Missile Technology Control Regime protocols which West Germany had acceded to in 1987.[20] These enhanced missiles brought Israeli cities into Iraqi targeting range for the first time, and the Iraqi weapons research program included factories and necessary supplies for the creation of weaponized mustard and nerve gas.[21][22] Though not a belligerent in the Gulf War, Israeli cities were nevertheless bombarded by these upgraded Iraqi missiles.[23][24] To compensate Israel for war-related damage and economic losses[22][25] and keep German shipyards occupied with a high profile project in the post Cold War defense spending downturn,[26][27] then Chancellor of Germany Helmut Kohl approved an assistance package to German industry including the construction of two Dolphin-class submarines.[28][29]
Finally, somebody who researches that story by himself.
Same with US aid to Israel.
People are dumb if they are ideological blinded, madness.
 
So, you are saying those video of Hamas taking children out of people home and killing all these people running from a rave party are all fake? They are all Israel propaganda?

And oh yes, there are gonna be more collateral from now on, you can bet on that.

J, we are fighting a evil occupier. These evil occupier must be forced to grant Palestinians independence or else cause a world war. Our army has many white nationalists in it that hate Jews and don't want to arm them.
 
So, you are saying those video of Hamas taking children out of people home and killing all these people running from a rave party are all fake? They are all Israel propaganda?

And oh yes, there are gonna be more collateral from now on, you can bet on that.
It is part of a plan by Iran, Russia and Hamas

  • The Russians want the United States to divert resources into the Middle East and reduce aid to Ukraine
  • Iran wants to weaken Israel and destroy its peace agreement with Saudi Arabia
  • Hamas wants to take revenge and humiliate Israel
Russia and Iran support Hamas and encourage Hamas to commit atrocities against Jews and Hamas is happy to do so.
 
More Chaos in middle East and potential US military intervention will definitely help Iran and Russia.

Hamas and Palestine had to do something. They are not the status quo power and politics in the world and region were going against them.With this stunt, they can make it difficult for Saudi and UAE to normalise ties with Israel.

Killings were never stopped to begin with. More than 150 people's were killed this year in Israeli military operations in west bank.
That's the issue, countries are abandoning Israel before this, even US is trying to walk away from this, this attack draw people back in, that's the same thing the Russian did with Ukraine, nobody care about joining NATO before, now they have 2 more member and 1200 mile border. that's a funny way of trying to minimize NATO border.

The issue here is, you are right, killing never stop, which make this attack less important, because it's the way over there, and people are only going to remember this attack as Israeli as victim, which is basically the opposite of what Palestinian want. One attack, the world is more than likely to overlook all the wrong doing the Israeli done over the past year, maybe more. And that is what this attack will do.
 

Taliban, Hezbollah could join current Palestinian war on Israel: top US foreign-affairs pol​

By Ryan King

Published Oct. 8, 2023, 12:08 p.m. ET
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AFP via Getty Images
Other Mideast terror groups such as the Taliban and Hezbollah may join the current Palestinian attack on Israel, warned House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Michael McCaul on Sunday.

When asked about whether the war between the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas and Israel that broke out Saturday could devolve into a “full blown war,” McCaul (R-Texas) said he was worried.
I’ve seen indications that the Taliban wants to come to liberate Jerusalem, in their words, to fight the Zionists. That’s very concerning,” McCaul told CNN’s “State of the Union.”

Host Dana Bash name-dropped both the Taliban and Lebanese terrorist group Hezbollah in her question.

If Hezbollah or/and Taliban join the fight against Israel with ground forces, i feel US will send ISIS to help Israel, lets keep watching.
 
It is part of a plan by Iran, Russia and Hamas

  • The Russians want the United States to divert resources into the Middle East and reduce aid to Ukraine
  • Iran wants to weaken Israel and destroy its peace agreement with Saudi Arabia
  • Hamas wants to take revenge and humiliate Israel

I wouldn't even be surprised if some of your points are true.
 

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