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Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

I’m referring to the PLO and the original peace process. Perhaps a revisit of history is required if you are going to engage in this farcical debate.

I have spent years discusing this issues , dont feel this is the right atmosphere right now to discuss it here.

Not that it is not important subject.

But talking now , about who is to blame for f*cking it up 30 years ago , would not improve things now.

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The jews will be destroyed no doubt.
Hamas has done its part.
victory will decend somehow.
Maybe Jordanians and iraqi militias will penetrate the borders...
Yemen are doing their best sending missiles n drones to bomb israel.
Meanwhile hzb are still fighting with that electricity tower

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How about THAT? :P

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How many AD missiles for iron dome Israel/US has left? I find it interesting that Hamas still firing rockets and now Houthi join.
Houthis will not have a big impact. The range is big and the accuracy of missile will decrease with ranges. Plus it can cause collateral damage, missiles landing in Egypt, Saudi Arabia,
 
Ok so...what if we send all the Jews to America,the Arabs to Pakistan and give the entire place to the Greeks? I think that's the best solution. Thank you. Please call the UN and tell them.
 
Hamas has done its part.
Yeah Hamas sure has done its part screwing up the entire region.

The jews will be destroyed no doubt.
You've been destroying them for 60 years,please leave someone alive 🙄

Maybe Jordanians and iraqi militias will penetrate the borders...
Jordanians no. Iraqis are too far away. If forces from Iran or Iraq cross Syria in big numbers,they will be attacked by the Israeli Air Force.
 
Well,Hamas does have miles and miles of tunnels,they've even showed part of them in various videos,but I don't think it's anything unbelievably sophisticated.
It’s fairly basic stuff Hamas tunnels, whilst extensive they are no where as near complex as the ones in Afghan.

Also displaying their tunnel network is a bit of a faux pas. I still don’t believe they have nearly the complex network as portrayed by the IDF, it could be much of a muchness but hey Ho, whoever controls the narrative, right?

But for me and I’m beginning to sound like a broken record here, but for me it’s the civilian cost that is the major driver.

There is still the very real possibility of this snowballing into a wider regional conflict, the region cannot afford another conflict.

Europe has a war on her doorstep, you have things heating up in Africa, Taiwan and the far-east is technically a frozen conflict waiting to erupt, you have frozen conflicts in South Asia and Central Asia and then you have instability and non state actors that can FUbAR anything in between.

Whilst our attention has been focused on Ukraine and Palestine, don’t forget that ISIl are regrouping and are very much active in Afghan.
 
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#Military_Spokesman: Within the framework of following up on the results of the ongoing investigations by the competent committee into the two accidents of a foreign object falling in Nuweiba and a piloted drone in Taba...
By analyzing and gathering information, the results of the investigations revealed that (2) unmanned aerial vehicles were heading from the south of the Red Sea to the north, and one of them was targeted outside Egyptian airspace in the Gulf of Aqaba region, resulting in some of its debris falling in an uninhabited area in Nuweiba...in addition to the fall of The other is in Taba.
The Air Force and Air Defense Forces are intensifying the work of securing Egyptian airspace on all strategic directions of the country.
 
There is still the very real possibility of this snowballing into a wider regional conflict, the region cannot afford another conflict.
I'm starting to think,what if the Russians told Iran to tell Hamas to do this in order to open a second front down there and take the focus out of Ukraine for a bit? Divert the attention and funding from Ukraine to Israel and allow the Russians to fight easier?
 
I’ve liked your post despite disagreeing in principle because you epitomised the general feeling of anger and frustration in the Arab/Muslim world ashen looking at the injustices faced by the people of Palestine.

What we have to be is reasonable in the sense we must admit that the taking of hostages was a shit move by Hamas, the alleged mass killings were an atrocity, but at the same time the collective punishment of over 2.1 Million Palestinians is Genocide.

Plain and simple.
I have a different opinion. Taking hostages as long as they were treated well, shouldn’t be much of an issue. Yes it gives Zionists and west a chance to use it for propaganda. But let’s be honest, there is no way any western country was gonna support Hamas or Palestinians anyways. Hamas already had seen lowering public support in Gaza and they failed to make Zionists even work out any political deal with them. Arabs were flocking to recognize israel. Hamas and the Palestinian cause in general was on its dead bed. Rise in hardcode Zionist in positions of power in Israeli government already caused this year to be the bloodiest year for Palestinians in West Bank since 2007. Hamas went into this knowing this is like their final move. They will be finished maybe but will die fighting. The hostages were maybe intended to be used as bargaining chips and to prevent blind scorch earth bombings from Zionists. But Zionists didn’t even care about their own. Any killing of one’s that surrendered, could not fight or were not fighting age was wrong imo. But this doesn’t mean they aren’t guilty as well. Remember everyone in israel must serve in iof by law. No one fighting age is innocent and their illegal settlers after all. But imo, they should have been taken hostages instead. Is it bad for optics? Definitely. But Zionist media even paints a single rocket fired as mass atrocity and Zionist air strikes as nothing. Think of it as this way, if Taliban invaded USA and had families there but made a law everyone born in Taliban territory must join Taliban for a few years. Do you think usa would spare anyone? They would just scorch earth the whole place. Yes as Muslims we have morals and values we must follow that’s why even for captives/hostages we must treat them in a fair manner. That’s also why non combatants imo should have been hostages rather than killed cuz it would have been more beneficial in the actual battlefield for Hamas but still horrible for optics.
Even if Hamas went in and killed solely only iof soldiers they would still be painted as terrorists and people who did mass killings cuz majority iof is just normal civilians doing their required years there.
This is just my view tho. I don’t expect everyone to share my view but looking at what’s been happening to Palestinians that’s how I see it. I’m open to hearing other viewpoints except those who support Zionist. You can say Zionists have the same view that’s why they’re levelling Gaza but my response to that would be they level Gaza regardless. There was no Oct 7 before the Nakba in 48. This war started the day they stabbed us in the back and put their eyes on our holy sites. The same people who Muslims empires protected for centuries from Europe who wanted to genocide them. And still to this day we aren’t against every Jew. We make the distinction that Zionism does not equal Judaism. But Zionism to me is the same ideology of Daesh or Nazism. I cannot call anyone with Zionist ideology an innocent civilian. At max those Zionists who don’t put up a fight can be given an option to vacate occupied lands and live in peace wherever they want.
 
Houthis will not have a big impact. The range is big and the accuracy of missile will decrease with ranges. Plus it can cause collateral damage, missiles landing in Egypt, Saudi Arabia,

Me think it doesnt matter. If they send a lot e.g. drones then enough would hit to pressure Israel to stock up their AD in the southern region. And that would lower the AD in rest of Israel.
 
Whilst our attention has been focused on Ukraine and Palestine, don’t forget that ISIl are regrouping and are very much active in Afghan.
Fighting against the Taliban? I thought they had eradicated all of them.
 
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