Future World Aircraft Carrier comparison

[Vibs]

Its quiet an incomplete analysis; if you are talking about future then just wait for 15 years & Russian carriers will be quiet lethal with naval based MiG & Sukhoi planes, with a big load of all-feared P-500 family missiles. The article also never mentions that why US is improving its ESSM capability.. simply because there still occur fears that Klub family especially the canisterised version is the pain in the a$$ for European/US naval forces.
DefenceDog: U.S. Navy Is Preparing To Beat Off The Russian Missiles
From my personal point of view small carriers ( as opted by UK/NATO) with an avalanche of VTOL planes is best option; but mind it that such planes lack the punch that is needed to be an offensive or more still an AirSuperiority vehicle. Russian upcoming carriers as far as I know will be much more spacious & this coincides with their school of thought of carrying heavy payload in not only air vehicles (the big Su-35 or MiG-35) but also in the water vehicles

Unfortunately we aren't sure of the technology 15 years from now. But yeah I'm sure carriers will be a lot different. FGFA/Pak FA could possibly be modified to be a carrier based fighter. But modified versions of modern flankers have traditionally not been seen as ideal versions for carriers. Even today MiG 29's are being procured by Russia and India.
The NATO model of operating multiple small carriers seems to have taken a toll financially with reports of UK being unable to deploy it's carrier to Libya due to defence cuts coming to light.

 

[sab]

Well...let me count.
Current Carrier INS Viraat is expected to be kept in service till 2020 although with major maintenance. (One)
INS Vikrant (IC 1) is expected to join 2012-2013 (two)
INS Vikramaditya is expected to be delivered by 2012-2013 (Three)
IC 2 construction has started (BTW it has steam catapult launch) is expected to be commissioned by 2017 (four) but I expect delays and will go to 2020-2021 to be fair around the time INS Viraat is retired(So 3 again).

INS Vishaal could be IC2 or an entirely new carrier. But yes 4 would be speculation. 3 is confirmed.

Count INS Andaman-Nicobar....which is permanently posted exactly where it is needed.......That will make it 4

 

[Abingdonboy]

Its quiet an incomplete analysis; if you are talking about future then just wait for 15 years & Russian carriers will be quiet lethal with naval based MiG & Sukhoi planes, with a big load of all-feared P-500 family missiles. The article also never mentions that why US is improving its ESSM capability.. simply because there still occur fears that Klub family especially the canisterised version is the pain in the a$$ for European/US naval forces.
DefenceDog: U.S. Navy Is Preparing To Beat Off The Russian Missiles
From my personal point of view small carriers ( as opted by UK/NATO) with an avalanche of VTOL planes is best option; but mind it that such planes lack the punch that is needed to be an offensive or more still an AirSuperiority vehicle. Russian upcoming carriers as far as I know will be much more spacious & this coincides with their school of thought of carrying heavy payload in not only air vehicles (the big Su-35 or MiG-35) but also in the water vehicles

Firstly the UK has decominssioned HMS Ark Royal a VSTOL carrier and its next 2 Queen Elizabeth carriers are 60,000 tonnes and will use steam catapults in a CATBAR configuration with F-35C (carrier version ) and NATO doesn't even have an ACC! And the Russian Navy is going for Mig29K, same as IN as they feel it perfectly fits their needs and replaces obsolete Su33 and the Mig35 is never going to see service now.

 

[brational]

Well...let me count.
Current Carrier INS Viraat is expected to be kept in service till 2020 although with major maintenance. (One)
INS Vikrant (IC 1) is expected to join 2012-2013 (two)
INS Vikramaditya is expected to be delivered by 2012-2013 (Three)
IC 2 construction has started (BTW it has steam catapult launch) is expected to be commissioned by 2017 (four) but I expect delays and will go to 2020-2021 to be fair around the time INS Viraat is retired(So 3 again).

INS Vishaal could be IC2 or an entirely new carrier. But yes 4 would be speculation. 3 is confirmed.

Virat is still a burden for India to be kept alive.. Something is wrong here.. Viraat has gone for life extension twice.. Moreover, how an AC which only designed for STOVL operations can facilitate Mig 29Ks for deck operations? For that we need to go for F35 STOVLs, which is not foreseeable.. by 2020 we will be operating only 2 ACs. Also remeber, Vikramaditya is not a full time AC, it is puchased by India so as to showcase an AC in IN.. So in any given situation, India will not operate more than 3 ACs, The best combination will be IAC 1,2 & 3.. Critics are welcome..

 

[nightcrawler]

^^
I do acknowledge that problem is not only economy but VTOL fighters for which these carriers were certainly designed for (harriers) have become weak contenders in aviation fight. However, when given the option to a country with tight budgets but still an ally of US I must say the deployment of F-35 VTOL on the very carriers they are decommissioning will change the game

 

[brational]

^^
I do acknowledge that problem is not only economy but VTOL fighters for which these carriers were certainly designed for (harriers) have become weak contenders in aviation fight. However, when given the option to a country with tight budgets but still an ally of US I must say the deployment of F-35 VTOL on the very carriers they are decommissioning will change the game

ur observation is true.. so at this point, if at all India goes for f35 vtol option, it makes the whole IAC project in jeopardy.. We hv already ordered for 45 Mig 29k, then LcA N, again f35, too many platforms to operate.. It wil give IN an unnecessary mix.. but f35s r always wecome, because they r Gen 5 which India really needs..

 

[blackops]

ur observation is true.. so at this point, if at all India goes for f35 vtol option, it makes the whole IAC project in jeopardy.. We hv already ordered for 45 Mig 29k, then LcA N, again f35, too many platforms to operate.. It wil give IN an unnecessary mix.. but f35s r always wecome, because they r Gen 5 which India really needs..

Well i will never go for an american jet i know they are the best in the world the thing is the cost of infra training spares will be equal to a new ac so it would be better to make a new ac rather than keeping the old man alive on live savers

 

[brational]

Well i will never go for an american jet i know they are the best in the world the thing is the cost of infra training spares will be equal to a new ac so it would be better to make a new ac rather than keeping the old man alive on live savers

U got the point.. At this point we cant look upon US VTOL options.. We already made our plan..

 

[Tumba]

Count INS Andaman-Nicobar....which is permanently posted exactly where it is needed.......That will make it 4

n can never b sunk by man ... ...

 

[notorious_eagle]

yes. but for now. in future china may come up with better carriers which may beat even US carriers in size, weight and number of fighters deployed.

Its not about building an aircraft carrier, its about building and training a carrier group that can support the aircraft carrier. It will take China a good 2 decades to develop a modern officer core for PLAN that is comparable to the officer core of the USN, that is confident and capable to deploy their strike carriers overseas. China has a long way to go before they can match the might of the USN which in my opinion is heads and shoulders above the rest of the world, not only in terms of the ships and technology they have in their possession, but the sailors and officers that are on board these ships. For now the focus for China is the PLA and PLAAF, PLAN gets the third priority and that is why it will take time before it can catch up to the more advanced Western Navies. Its a situation similar to that of the USSR, the Red Army VVS received the bulk of the funding because the USSR was more of a land based empire as compared to the US which is a sea based empire.

 

[satishkumarcsc]

You said 3 confirmed, possibly 4. It is actually 2 confirmed, all else speculation!

Yes 3 is confirmed. you are forgetting INS Viraat that is going to be there till 2017.

 

[nightcrawler]

ur observation is true.. so at this point, if at all India goes for f35 vtol option, it makes the whole IAC project in jeopardy.. We hv already ordered for 45 Mig 29k, then LcA N, again f35, too many platforms to operate.. It wil give IN an unnecessary mix.. but f35s r always wecome, because they r Gen 5 which India really needs..

You don't need F-35 because MiG-29k has more than enough punch even more than F-35 in terms of weapon loads & capabilities...Look here

DefenceDog: PAK-FA [T-50] Latest Armaments

Surely you can see the latest developments in missile as applied to T-50 can to be adopted by Mig-35/29 SU-27/30/35

 

[BRICS]

Yes 3 is confirmed. you are forgetting INS Viraat that is going to be there till 2017.

Actually we were discussing carriers BEING BUILT right now for IN! So 2 confirmed, all else is speculation.

 

[MrIndianSikh]

IN has 3 planned for the future all to be in service hopefully by 2020 (Vikrant Vishal and Admiral Gorshkov) but INS Viraat has been refitted to last until the later half of this decade so it could be 4 by 2020

and no navy in the world can beat the USN at ACC 1 aircraft carrier costs over 1 billion dollars to have them is a good asset but expensive

another thing i noticed is all of India's ACC start with V i wonder why

 

[cyphercide]

All apologies but INS Viraat is carrying on just for the sake of carrying on.How do I Know?My father dearest commanded it for some time.

PS#I rather spend money on nuclear submarine technology rather than carriers.It might be a good choice for the US but it's just a money pit for India