Fuss on alcohol clouds Istanbul music festival

[Targon]

I repeated that countless times what can I do if you didn't saw them ? ou topic is that and of course I'm talking about that.

Armstrong

If some people wants Sharia and thinks its their freedom, then someone should find a way that Sharia only applies to ones that wanting it because their freedom is harms others.

 

[Killuminati]

Pff this is nonsense. Never ending discussion. Go do what you want all i dont care anymore.

 

[Armstrong]

I repeated that countless times what can I do if you didn't saw them ? ou topic is that and of course I'm talking about that.

Armstrong

If some people wants Sharia and thinks its their freedom, then someone should find a way that Sharia only applies to ones that wanting it because their freedom is harms others.

Dude did you go through any one of my posts ? If the imposition of Shariah harms the freedom of the Secularists than the imposition of Secularism harms the freedom of those who'd prefer to be ruled by the 'Shariah' ! So either way...someone is better off whilst the other is not !

 

[Targon]

Secular law supposed to be not based on a certain belief or discriminate any belief, its supposed to be cover needs of all groups, if some religious people finds that insufficient then they should find a way that Sharia only applies to them.

Secular law is not even fully secular in Turkey but still...

 

[Armstrong]

Secular law supposed to be not based on a certain belief or discriminate any belief, its supposed to be cover needs of all groups, if some religious people finds that insufficient then they should find a way that Sharia only applies to them.

Dude every ideology or anything for that matter that one espouses is a 'belief system'...! If its logic thats the selling point of 'secular law' then pray tell me what did you find so illogical about the 'Shariah' ?

 

[Targon]

Secular law is not based on orders of a belief, it can change according to needs of people.

 

[Armstrong]

Secular law is not based on orders of a belief, it can change according to needs of people.

So can the Shariah....ever heard of 'Ijtihad' or 'consensus to form a legal opinion' ? However the fundamentals stay the same - Thou shalt not kill and the sort !

 

[Targon]

Shariah based on orders of a certain belief, secular law is not, can you change anything that Islam prohibits or orders ?

I'm literally wasted my time in that thread, I'm going to dinner so have a nice day or night whatever the time is it there

 

[Zulkarneyn]

Now that you mention food, it is gonna be hard in Denmark in ramadan,can't eat until 22:00

 

[Targon]

Dude, its 45 degree here, around 50 with the humidity, you sweat like crazy even if you just sit think about people who will fast in the hottest month of the year

 

[Zulkarneyn]

Dude, its 45 degree here, around 50 with the humidity, you sweat like crazy even if you just sit think about people who will fast in the hottest month of the year

Can't literally imagine it, since in Denmark we can't go outside without our coats on
I think your winter is warmer than our summer, and i'm not kidding

 

[Targon]

Its not downs under of 20s in winters no snow either

 

[Levvame]

Secular law is not based on orders of a belief, it can change according to needs of people.

So basically what your saying is that people Switzerland have a need called "Having sexual relationship with your own sister, daughter, son, father."

I'm correct?


i wanna ask you a simple question, why do we have laws?

 

[Armstrong]

Shariah based on orders of a certain belief, secular law is not, can you change anything that Islam prohibits or orders ?

I'm literally wasted my time in that thread, I'm going to dinner so have a nice day or night whatever the time is it there

You don't really have any clue about what 'Islamic Jurisprudence' is do you ?

Khair...like wise forget it ! Have a nice evening and save some of those Kebabs for me !

 

[Armstrong]

just freaky awkward how on earth alcohol consumption is in any way conected with a discussion on democracy... which for sure can not be reduced to popular, unpopular or divine will!

people are going to rock concerts...not to prayer!!!

and alcohol is not an ''illegal thing''

yes sure! but unfortunately in contemporary world the source of laws is not popular, unpopular or divine will...pity...

3 whole posts in a thread...thats got to be some kind of a record for you, Quasar !