From Bangladesh to Balochistan

[r3alist]

To be honest,I only found some Bangladeshis talking about United Pakistan again.Most of the Pakistanis I have come across,does repent for 1971 but does not talk about reunification.
I think they understand that this is the only best way for us.We should move on and build better relation in terms of economy and also in defence.
I say yes to Bangladesh-Pakistan friendship/brotherhood.But NO to reunification.Both of us have enough problems to deal with.

well said brother.

let us all remember one thing, we do not have to be pedantically adjoined to move in the same direction with the same interests.

pakistan is not an imperialist power, pakistani'/bangladeshi's should absolutely respect one another and MOVE FORWARD IN THE SAME DIRECTION FOR MUTUAL INTERESTS.

We everyday moan about our politicians and their infighting, we are no better.

What is the point of arguing, both of our countries are far weaker than what we want them to be, maybe one day when i see our countries as strong as western countries will i indulge in a "we are better than you debate" but quite frankly it is a retarded debate to get into at this stage, lets help one another, we are brothers at the end of the day.

 

[arihant]

PS: we did not have census in 2004 rather its every 10 years and last census was done in 2001 and the next is due in 2011

In India official census takes same as BD. It was in 2001 and will be in 2011. 2004 Reports are most likely accurate information based on information by the agencies.

Definition of Indian literacy "7 years or older person who declare themselves can read and write in census".

Don't put your own defination. As per Indian Govt. It is defined as below

"The total percentage of the population of an area at a particular time aged seven years or above who can read and write with understanding."

 

[Gin ka Pakistan]

In every sense a militarily strong and fully integrated Pakistan is a hindrance to fulfilling India's dream of Akhand Hindu Bharat (AHB). Therefore, it is essential that Pakistan wins over its internal feuds partly created by the Pakistanis themselves and partly fuelled by Hindu India.

In Akhand Hindu Bharat, Mughal Akbar idea of unity will be forced on all the Muslims who will be in the upper stream.

1.Shahrukh Khan
According to Khan, while he strongly believes in Allah, he also values his wife's religion. At home, his children follow both religions, with the Qur'an being situated next to the Hindu gods.[13]
Shahrukh Khan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2. Irfan Pathan marring a Hindu

3. Mohammad Azharuddin divorced Muslim wife and married a Hindu

4. Sania mirza with Shahid kapoor

the list can go on and on

 

[xebex]

In Akhand Hindu Bharat, Mughal Akbar idea of unity will be forced on all the Muslims who will be in the upper stream.

1.Shahrukh Khan
According to Khan, while he strongly believes in Allah, he also values his wife's religion. At home, his children follow both religions, with the Qur'an being situated next to the Hindu gods.[13]
Shahrukh Khan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2. Irfan Pathan marring a Hindu

3. Mohammad Azharuddin divorced Muslim wife and married a Hindu

4. Sania mirza with Shahid kapoor

the list can go on and on

Yeah i know its hard for u to understand. In India we believe in TOLERANCE, ever heard of it?. U wont force other's to follow ur own religion.....u simply wont!

 

[Gin ka Pakistan]

Yeah i know its hard for u to understand. In India we believe in TOLERANCE, ever heard of it?. U wont force other's to follow ur own religion.....u simply wont!

India will probe Muslim boy-Hindu girl marriages

MUMBAI: Maharashtra’s criminal investigation department (CID) meant to probe high-profile cases will now investigate love affairs that have resulted in marriages between Hindu girls and Muslim boys.

CID has been told to check whether Muslim boys are enticing Hindu girls as part of a ‘conspiracy’. Minister of state for home (rural) Nitin Raut had announced this in the assembly on the last day of Maharashtra’s budget session a fortnight back.

Participating in a calling attention notice, Eknath Khadse and Devendra Fadnavis had said young Muslim boys in rural areas were wooing Hindu college girls and then marrying them. According to them, this was part of a ‘conspiracy’ to increase the population of the community. Khadse even alleged that some Hindu girls had been sent to Gulf.

In his reply, Raut admitted such incidents were happening. ‘‘I will initiate an inquiry into this,’’ the minister had promised. But the opposition demanded that he order a CID probe as the issue was serious. Subsequently, Raut gave in to their demands.

CID chief SPS Yadav said, ‘‘We have yet to receive the order. The first thing we will have to do is to check whether such an inquiry is in consonance with the CID manual. If not, we will inform the government about the norms,’’ he said. ‘‘If government persists, we will decide on how to carry out these investigations.’’

Raut’s announcement has not gone down well with his cabinet colleagues and leaders of the Muslim community. Senior NCP leader and labour minister Nawab Malik said BJP has political interest in raising such issues.

Congress leader and minister of state for home (urban) Arif Naseem Khan said there is no provision in law where member of a particular community can be stopped from marrying a girl/boy of another community. ‘‘If any case where a girl/boy is pressurised into getting married to member of other community, the offender should be certainly punished,’’ he added.

Refuting the allegations made by Malik and Khan, Fadnavis said, ‘‘Had we wanted to politicise the issue, we would have carried out morcha and protest, instead we demanded CID inquiry that shows that our intention was not to gain political mileage of the issue.’’

Probe into Maharashtra's Muslim boy-Hindu girl marriages - India - NEWS - The Times of India

 

[Gin ka Pakistan]

Yeah i know its hard for u to understand. In India we believe in TOLERANCE, ever heard of it?. U wont force other's to follow ur own religion.....u simply wont!

Muslim weds Hindu, VHP calls bandh
Vadodara, December 19: Bollywood star Fardeen Khan’s inter-religion marriage with Natasha Madhvani may not have created any ripple, but a Muslim boy marrying a Hindu girl in the small town of Karjan has raised the hackles of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP). The saffron brigade has now called Karjan bandh on Monday.
On Sunday night, police was patrolling in Karjan town in view of the tense situation created by the VHP’s bandh call. Vadodara (Rural) SP Wabang Jamir said: ‘‘Taking note of the tense situation in Karjan, about five sub-inspectors along with their forces and SRP constables have been posted there to control any untoward happenings during the bandh on Monday.’’ The couple in question are chartered accountancy student Imran Mehboob Sheikh (22) and law student Prachi Hiteshchandra Shah (21). They eloped about six days back, and evidence available with police say the couple had married in a court — though secretly— about six months back.

When Prachi’s father Hiteshchandra Shah came to know about the elopement, he came to Imran’s house at Navabazar’s Hussain Faliya area with two BJP corporators and seven VHP activists. They allegedly threatened Imran’s illiterate mother Hamida Sheikh (54). That was on Friday evening.

In a complaint lodged with Karjan police, Hamida said that she was assaulted and was asked to persuade her son to divorce Prachi or face dire consequences. Karjan Sub Inspector B N Solanki visited the spot and subsequently a complaint was registered against nine persons for unlawful assembly, rioting and assault.

Muslim weds Hindu, VHP calls bandh

 

[paritosh]

Hundreds of thousands of Mujahideens can get activated in Pakistan to defend any Muslim country in the world. Beware of that!

this is not intelligent....why doesn't the PA recruit these crazy fanatics?
and last I heard the PA was fighting against these mujahideens of yours..and the PA kicked their a$$!

 

[paritosh]

Muslim weds Hindu, VHP calls bandh
Vadodara, December 19: Bollywood star Fardeen Khan’s inter-religion marriage with Natasha Madhvani may not have created any ripple, but a Muslim boy marrying a Hindu girl in the small town of Karjan has raised the hackles of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP). The saffron brigade has now called Karjan bandh on Monday.
On Sunday night, police was patrolling in Karjan town in view of the tense situation created by the VHP’s bandh call. Vadodara (Rural) SP Wabang Jamir said: ‘‘Taking note of the tense situation in Karjan, about five sub-inspectors along with their forces and SRP constables have been posted there to control any untoward happenings during the bandh on Monday.’’ The couple in question are chartered accountancy student Imran Mehboob Sheikh (22) and law student Prachi Hiteshchandra Shah (21). They eloped about six days back, and evidence available with police say the couple had married in a court — though secretly— about six months back.

When Prachi’s father Hiteshchandra Shah came to know about the elopement, he came to Imran’s house at Navabazar’s Hussain Faliya area with two BJP corporators and seven VHP activists. They allegedly threatened Imran’s illiterate mother Hamida Sheikh (54). That was on Friday evening.

In a complaint lodged with Karjan police, Hamida said that she was assaulted and was asked to persuade her son to divorce Prachi or face dire consequences. Karjan Sub Inspector B N Solanki visited the spot and subsequently a complaint was registered against nine persons for unlawful assembly, rioting and assault.

Muslim weds Hindu, VHP calls bandh

these political morons don't know an iota of 'hindutva'...!

 

[salman nedian]

this is not intelligent....why doesn't the PA recruit these crazy fanatics?
and last I heard the PA was fighting against these mujahideens of yours..and the PA kicked their a$$!

i have written this in another context.

 

[pmukherjee]

Muslim weds Hindu, VHP calls bandh

Good luck to the lovers. One advice - just vanish from the scene for a few years, the ruckus will die down.

 

[BanglaBhoot]

Great, really great. Now the father of Bangladesh Nation, "Sheikh Mujib had engaged in a subversive conspiracy in 1963 against Pakistan". Maybe he wanted freedom for the Bangladeshis against Pakistan's tyranny, and in this he got all the help he could get.

In India we have a historical leader called Netaji Subhash Bose, he sought help from Nazi Germany, Communist USSR and Fascist Japan to fight for India's freedom. He even convinced the Japanese to free the Indian prisoners of war (captured in Malaya and Singapur) and formed the Azad Hind Fauj to attack the British Army in Nagaland. Netaji is admired and worshiped in India and not cursed as a traitor.

The question was that whether independence was motivated by Indian instigation alone or had it to do with Pakistan exploitation of the East. Sheikh Mujib and the AL have always contended that they served Pakistan loyally and it was the betrayal of the East Pakistanis that led to independence and India only stepped in at the last moment. If the Agartala conspiracy is true then this is all nonsense.

 

[M_Saint]

The question was that whether independence was motivated by Indian instigation alone or had it to do with Pakistan exploitation of the East. Sheikh Mujib and the AL have always contended that they served Pakistan loyally and it was the betrayal of the East Pakistanis that led to independence and India only stepped in at the last moment. If the Agartala conspiracy is true then this is all nonsense.

You're right on the money, Munshi Vhai. BTW, according to many informed Pakistanis, SK Mujib was found guilty but pardoned by Prez Yahya because of national reconciliation. Was there any jury trial against him or he was acquitted from being embarrassed?

 

[eastwatch]

Don't put your own defination. As per Indian Govt. It is defined as below:
"The total percentage of the population of an area at a particular time aged seven years or above who can read and write with understanding."

Iajdani's wordings in the quotation was wrong, but he did not change the definition or meaning, it is as it is in your quotation.

Not only that 98% enrollment has been achieved in the Primary schools in BD, it is also to be noted that the govt has made education free for all girls upto 10th grade and a certain quantity, probably 15 kg of rice every month is provided to the village girls' families so that they are encouraged to send their daughters to schools.

One goal is to educate the future mothers, and other goal is to discourage early marriage. This type of small amenities have began to bear fruits to the society. An educated mother always educates her children even if the father is not educated, and also she will bear less number of children.

Note that the literacy rate of Muslim Bangalis in 1947 was less than 5%, and it was around 25% in 1971. But, today the enrollment at Primary level is 98%. When the older genarations die out, the country will be almost 100% literate.

I think, it is a great social achievement in BD. And the investment the country is making in the education sector will be reflected in its GDP at some point in the future.

 

[arihant]

Iazdani's wordings in the quotation was wrong, but he did not change the definition or meaning, it is as it is in your quotation.

Not only that 98% enrollment has been achieved in the Primary schools, it is also to be noted that the govt has made education free for all girls upto 10th grade and a certain quantity, probably 15 kg of rice every month is provided to the village girls' families so that they are encouraged to send their daughters to schools.

One goal is to educate the future mothers, and other goal is to discourage early marriage. This type of small amenities have began to bear fruits to the society. An educated mother always educates her children even if the father is not educated, and also she will bear less number of children.

Note that the literacy rate of Muslim Bangalis in 1947 was less than 5%, and it was around 25% in 1971. But, today the enrollment at Primary level is 98%. When the older genarations die out, the country will be almost 100% literate.

I think, it is a great social achievement in BD. And the investment the country is making in the education sector will be reflected in its GDP at some point in the future.

I don't have problem with achievements of BD but anyone using wrong meaning to describe India is not tolerable.

Anyway, I was not aware that only 5% of people were literate at the time of independence.

 

[eastwatch]

I don't have problem with achievements of BD but anyone using wrong meaning to describe India is not tolerable.

Anyway, I was not aware that only 5% of people were literate at the time of independence.

Yes, it was true in 1947 that only less than 5% of the Muslim Bangali population was literate. However, Hindu Bangalis' percentage of literacy was quite high. I do not have any data, but it was more than 20%. Muslim Bangalis were behind the other group, because the Muslims truthfully started accepting English/Bangla education only in the early 20th century. Until then, their education was limited to learning the Arabic and Persian languages and some arithmatics only.

However, it is to be noted that although literacy rate was low, but, many Muslim Bangalis had become highly acclaimed poets and writers even in those days. In the field of literature the Muslim achievements are equally regarded as the achievements by the Hindus in the undivided Bengal.