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From Arabization to Turkfication Ertugrul and Pakistani Nationalism

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Post by Taimur Khurram

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/musl...punjabi-sindhi-ancestry.664288/#post-12293385
But that hardly is a proof of assimilation, it's a single marriage afterall - Kachwahas had more marriages but they are still Hindu, also there was the policy "taking daughters but not giving your own" - another problem in claiming assimilation.

Also, Bhattis have their origins in Jaisalmer, Rajasthan, not in Punjab.
 
But that hardly is a proof of assimilation, it's a single marriage afterall.

The routine carried on throughout the Tughlaq dynasty's existence, and their identifying with that side of the family shows that they were more than mere sex objects.

And even if you dispute this, it is what eventually happened to all of these Muslim dynasties in India. Their descendants are scattered throughout the Muslim communities of the Indian sub-continent.
 
I normally silently read and don't comment on anything in the forum but I could not help my self this time. People are concerned about Arabization and Turkification. You can hear them scream ... our culture ... People are concerned about a TV show which fictionally portrays a rise of a Muslim kingdom. Muslims all over the world have loved it because it kind of soothes bleeding wounds inflicted by MUNAFIQEEN puppets of West and their Western masters.

I haven't ever read any complain about Hinduwification of Pakistan through India. Hindu movie culture ... for example of boy friend, girl friend, ... has seeped into Pakistan so much that now girls don't fight for their p**is using exotic abuse like ... o kanjri ... o kamini ... now its ... you bitch i ill kill you while biting her hair ...

Then there is GORAFICATION ... ENGREZ KI GHULAMISM ... a Pakistani of any religion meets a GORA ... come to our home live with us our GORA master ... O OUR GORA MASTER YOU CAN HAVE THIS ABSOLUTELY FREE FROM MY SHOP ... i have a theory ... if a GORA requested a Pakistani to bend over infront of him without shalwar ... PAKISTANI WOULD CONSIDER IT CIVIC DUTY NOT ONLY TO BEND OVER WITH PERFECT BEND ANGLE BUT DEEM IT A HONOR and apply lube with his own hands. The Ghulami of mindset ... Ghulamification done now about GORAFICATION.

The Ghulamified Pakistanis are so good slaves that about 73 years after being free of their masters the Pakistanis are still WEARING SUITES, IN FACT IF YOU'RE SHALWAR WEARING person you're Jahil. If you can't speak English and only Urdu you're illiterate backward Mullah who isn't aware reality of world. If you speak English and get a three piece suite on and can demonstrate you're dressed JUST LIKE YOUR GORA MASTERS WOULD HAVE LIKED YOU TO BE IF YOU WERE AROUND THEM 73 YEARS AFTER ... THEN YOU'RE EDUCATED SOPHISTICATED. If you drink alcahol you're educated higher class, if you can get strippers on you DOG DUO (I.E. night before marriage ... i don't know whats its called so i just named it my self) you're somewhat educated and sophisticated. The true education and GORAFICATION is around 25 years ahead. Thats when part BEING PART OF ENGLISH SPEAKING SOPHISTICATED WONT JUST HINGE ON SPEAKING ENGLISH, AND DRESSING ENGLISH, AND EATING ENGLISH, BUT IT WILL ALSO BE JUDGED ON IF YOUR DAUGHTER AND TAKE HER CLOTHES OFF INFRONT OF GUYS WITH HER BOOTY AND BOOBY SHAKES. Then if you really embody GORAFICATION you will be sitting on set of **** MOVIE with your own daughter for moral support. And you yourself will bring well hung ... with extra big danda's ... so three of them and one of you can team on her and give her good time.

I advise the young Pakistanis to worry about Westernification, Englification, Britishification you're so deep in it already pulling out isn't possible anymore. Those members of PDF in their 20's and single, or married with little sons/daughters ... thats what your children will be doing. If not them your grand children will be having gang banging parties ... do you want to walk onto your grandson or grand daughter ... having a threesome with loud orgasms ... wake the FACK up now and take control of your D^^K and stop ENJOYING HINDU WOMEN IN INDIAN MOVIES ... BECAUSE YOUR SISTER IS ENJOYING HER HINDU MALE FANTASY JUST LIKE YOU ... shes prolly fantasizing HARTIK ROSHAN ... TWO OF THEM WOULD BE GOOD FOR ME to reinvigurate my soul ...

In which country judicial system, all paper work is in English, all goverment communications is in English, education standard is judged by English, wealt is judged by suite and tie, alcahol, whoring about, what are you complaining about or worried about if Turkification and Arabisation. Pakistanis bend over ... British Ghulami has penetrated you, Westernification has penetrated you, India movies have penetrated you that your film industry finally went Indian. Before you was enjoying Hinduwanis showing all now you and world will enjoy Pakistani women ... how good they look in their skin ... all naturelle ... sorry i was about Pakistanis bending over ... and accepting penetration. Reality is Pakistanis everything and everyone is penetrating you and your country if Turkification is also penetrating you ... then no scream ... by now you're so dull to pain reaction. Let them penetrate you ... you're a nation without GHAYRAT ... and such nation deserves to be penetrated by everything foriegn. When you're so cheap, shallow, empty, you have nothing of your own, you have no pride in your language, culture, food, religion, then you need foriegn things to make you happy. We're a nation that has no pride in our mother tongue or our nation languages ... WE ARE BEY-GHAYRAT PRIDE IS IN SPEAKING ENGLISH AND LEARNING ENGLISH ... SO WE LEARN OUR PRIDE. We AS A WHOLE NATION believe to be RESPECTABLE WE NEED TO SPEAK ENGLISH, EAT LIKE ENGLISH, DRESS LIKE ENGLISH, THINK LIKE ENGLISH, DECORATE HOMES LIKE WEST, ... so we want to be respectable and we do all that. Reality is Pakistanis you look down on your own language, national and native dresses, food, culture, religion, SO THEN WHY WOULD YOU RESIST PENETRATION OF FORIEGN INFLUENCES ... WHEN YOU DEEM YOUR OWN WORTH SHIT ... then everything and anything not your own is better then it, be it GORAFICATION, WESTERNIFICATION, ARABIFICATION, TURKIFICATION, OR SITTING ON PDF AND SINGING PRAISES China's advance and feel happy that China is progressing. I mean WTF people we celebrate China's rise likely more then the Chinese ... sooner or later it would become compulsory for Mufti Saab to direct two duas one to Allah and other one to Chinas leadership ... O ALLAH AND CHINA WE WORSHIP YOU AND YOUR AID WE ONLY SEEK.

I am all for change, I am so all for change that, I WOULD GIVE ENTIRE PAKISTAN TO CHINA. Here, have this Pakistan. Just let us live in it as Muslims the rest FACK it ... its yours rule it make it great ... Pakistani maanh can't give birth to people who can make this country work. Pakistani maanh couldnt even give birth to an honest police man or officer how would she birth a decent country leadership. Side tracked ... sorry. I am ready for change ... but change requires CHANGE IN THINKING ... IT REQUIRES JEALOSY, ... IT REQUIRES SELF RESPECT, ... IT REQUIRES PRIDE ... WHEN YOU HAVE PRIDE, SELF RESPECT, AND JEALOUSY I.E. GHAYRAT, then you will understand WHY NO GORA WALKS IN SHALWAR KAMEEZ IN ENGLAND AND WHY YOU WALK TROUSER AND SHIRT IN PAKISTAN. He has self respect, he is content with his culture, his dress, his language, his food, his festivals thats why he don't celebrate your Eid or Basant, ... BUT YOU PAKISTANIS DON'T HAVE ghayrat, pride, respect jealousy for adhering to YOUR OWN CULTURE, DRESS CODE, LANGUAGE, CUISINE, CUSTOMS AND FESTIVALS because of that ARE HAPPILY CELEBRATING VALENTINES DAY ... I know you're doing it for your D^^K but you're still taking part in Valentines day.

Here is my plan of bringing real change in Pakistan so no foriegn culture, religion, language, can alter Pakistanis and Pakistan: HAVE SELF RESPECT, BE CONTENT WITH WHAT YOU'RE IN CULTURE, LANGUAGE, DRESS, CUISINE, ... take pride in your culture, language, dress, cuisine,. Be jealous educate people, tell people, demonstrate, protest, hold rallies side houses of people, offices, ... to ensure your culture, your language, dress, cuisine, isn't changed.

But before all that GET YOUR SHALWAR KAMEEZ OUT AND WEAR IT ... get your dotti out ... get your pagh/turban out ... be a Pakistani ... be proud of it ... be arrogant about it ... look down on those who aren't wearing it ... consider them lower then you ... feel they are worms for not dressing like you ... embody that pride that arogance that feel greater then all factor ... look at NIGGERS ... hardly a decent human in them but everyone is ... WATS AP MA MAYN ... WA GOWAN MAN ... YO BLOTCLOT ... BAMBO CLOT ... WHY CAUSE THEY CARRY THEMSELVES WITH CONFIDENCE AND SELF RESPECT AND DIGNITY CLASS ... BUT LOOK AT YOU PAKISTANIS ... AATHOO ... lets get back to may plan SPEAK YOUR NATIVE LANGUAGE AND SPEAK URDU WHEN YOU NEED TO ... FACK ENGLISH ... ELIMINATE IRADICATE VANQUISH ALL FORIEGN INFLUENCES FROM YOUR LIFE BE PAKISTANI AND BE MUSLIM. NEXT STEP GO OUT EDUCATE ExPLAIN TO PEOPLE ... if you done the embodying part right people will copy you anyway ... cause you're respectable ... niggas dont tell people to be niggas ... but to help your cause CREATE MOVEMENTS WHICH ARE THERE TO FURTHER THIS CAUSE ... CREATE LITERATURE, SPREAD IT, AND ONCE YOU'RE DOMINANT FORCE then to step of protesting against those who dress up different, then RACIST ATTACKS FORIEGNERS FOR NOT DRESSING LIKE YOU, AND NOT BEING GOOD AS BROWN. Then challenge foriegn influence and influencers make them fear, give them sleepless nights with your 24 hour protests ... Drop that talk of o we are so kind and nice nation ... we love foriegners ... don't lick their ***-holes ... make em lick yours ... let a GORA give you free marchandize when you go to his store because he feels HIS HIGHNESS PAKISTANI HAS GRACED HIS SHOP ... AND AS GRATITUDE FOR GRACING HIS SHOP HE GIVES YOU FREE MARCHANDIZE AND MAYBE CALLS YOU OVER TO GIVE GOOD TIME TO HIS WIFE.

Final thing, don't speak English, learn it, just don't speak it to prove you're educated and show people you;re sophisticated. In conclusion, the sure way of ending ... Turkification, Westernization, Arabization, Afghanisation ... and China we worship you alone and your aid we seek and celebrating it ... is SELF RESPECT, BEING CONTENT WITH BEING PAKISTANI, PRIDE FOR ALL THINGS NATIVE TO PAKISTAN, ...When you embody the stated above you will eradicate people copying foriegn cultures ... look no BRITISH GORAS ARE COPYING SHALWAR KAMEEZ ... WHY BECAUSE THEY HAVE RESPECT FOR THEMSELVES ... THEIR LANGUAGE, DRESS, ... ONLY THING THEY DON'T HAVE LOVE RESPECT FOR IS PAKISTANI AND INDIAN, AND BANGLADESHI, AND SRI LANKAN, AND AFGHAN.
 
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People had no issues with abundance of Hollywood and Bollywood being watched in Pakistan, but one Turkish drama becoming a hit and these ‘Kortoglus’ start scratching their face and foaming in their mouth about identity crisis.
So as per freedom of speech, under which these intellectuals would lecture conservative Muslims to even tolerate Blasphemy of our Prophet, people have the right to watch whatever they want. IK as individual and as PM has his right as well, if he likes a drama then he has the right to say it. People can simply decide not watch it and can watch something of their liking such as Bahubhali.
 
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Typical turko-mughal BS. Taking wifes from natives while not marrying off their own daughters to any local. Meanwhile modern beghairat Pakistanis consider this honourable practice. 2nd class citizens after all.

lol
Asaf Jah turkic family from Hyderabad had a tradition of marrying their daughters to sons of the Paigah family(from Punjab) in exchange for the latter providing the household troops
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But anyhow it depends on the situation. For e.g. the native Muslim Barha clan in Mughal nobility would not give their daughters in marriage to a Mughal.

Also this is not for the first case of claiming figures based on marriage. Afghans take pride in claiming Ghaznavi for themselves based on the that Sabuktugin married a woman from Zabul.

In any case it is doubtful that the dynasty of Firoze Shah had Turkic descent in the first place since 1)they were not immigrants to India according to Amir Khusrau and 2)the founder of the dynasty was from a poor family, he was a horse keeper for some merchant in Punjab and Sindh before he joined military service as a foot soldier so he did not come from any Turkic military family
 
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