French military base in Aleppo under construction

[DESERT FIGHTER]

How about Egypt...
Most Muslim countries have been members at one time or the other.

If You look at the list of countries that has never been members, you will find the tiny countries,
the newly formed countries, Switzerland and Israel.
Switzerland because they do not want to, and Israel, because they are discriminated.

A nation ruled by a dictator like Saddam is not functional.
A state which represses most citizens is not functional.
The taking out of Saddam did not destroy a nation.
The economy of Iraq is significantly better now, if You check the GDP.

The current situation is 100% the responsibility of Iraqis.
When Hitler was taken out, Germany did not end up in a 15 year civil war.
Iraqis had the same choice, and failed miserably.
Once they win the war over ISIS, they will be significantly better off.



The Arab Spring started when a Tunisian burned himself in protest.
No need for guessing, it is well known.
You dishonour Your fellow Muslims by claiming they are puppets.

KSA used Military power to stop the Arab Spring, both in KSA and neighbouring states.

Meanwhile Muslims are killing Muslims at a much higher rate.

So Saddam was an evil son of a b1tch? But again his rule was legitimised by none other than the western power brokers ?

He was armed with chemical weapons (which he used against Iran and his own citizens) by none other than states like France?

It was the USs (unjust) war that lead eventually lead to divisions and creations of so called Islamist groups including ISIS ..

Nobody asked the average Iraqis choice than ?

Who was arming extremist groups and other fighters in Syria?

Whose selling arms and legitimised the govt of the Egyptian dictator Sissi?

You might aswell ride a .ick than your moral high horse.

 

[SOHEIL]

If you dont belong here move now!

You can stop posting in PDF for your honor & dignity !

So Saddam was an evil son of a b1tch? But again his rule was legitimised by none other than the western power brokers ?

He was armed with chemical weapons (which he used against Iran and his own citizens) by none other than states like France?

It was the USs (unjust) war that lead eventually lead to divisions and creations of so called Islamist groups including ISIS ..

Nobody asked the average Iraqis choice than ?

Who was arming extremist groups and other fighters in Syria?

Whose selling arms and legitimised the govt of the Egyptian dictator Sissi?

You might aswell ride a .ick than your moral high horse.

Please add mirage f-1s / super etendard / exocet missile / etc

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

You can stop posting in PDF for your honor & dignity !



Please add mirage f-1s / super etendard / exocet missile / etc

Those were kosher than ..


These people unfortunately will suck the Satans dong for their own interests than later appear holier than thou.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

So Saddam was an evil son of a b1tch? But again his rule was legitimised by none other than the western power brokers ?

He was armed with chemical weapons (which he used against Iran and his own citizens) by none other than states like France?

It was the USs (unjust) war that lead eventually lead to divisions and creations of so called Islamist groups including ISIS ..

Nobody asked the average Iraqis choice than ?

Who was arming extremist groups and other fighters in Syria?

Whose selling arms and legitimised the govt of the Egyptian dictator Sissi?

The French will sell arms to any that will buy, no disagreement there. We don't.
We rejected Pakistan when they wanted Gripen. We do allow people to buy defensive materiel, like EriEye.

The responsibility for the creation of ISIS lies solely with the members of ISIS.
It is their choice to create ISIS, and it is definitely their choice to use War Crimes as SOP.

Who is arming extremist groups in Syria is not fully known.
The U.S. has been dragged into supporting FSA, but that has been a failure.
Who is arming al-Qaeda, al-Nusra and ISIS is less known.
Suspicions towards Turkey, and rich Saudi-Arabians are high.
Your standard answer will be Israel, I bet...

France is unsurprisingly selling Rafale to Egypt.
I believe that Pakistan is trying to sell JF-17 to Egypt...
The US has blocked arms deals due to the coup.
Relations between the US and Egypt has gone sour due to US criticism of the coup.
Sweden is certainly not selling Gripen to Egypt.

The answer seems to be it is France and Pakistan who are legitimizing the coup.

 

[mike2000 is back]

You just have to have a tad bit of sense to understand what he wrote..

He's on a Pak govt scholarship -- paid by the government of Pak.
He didn't chose france.
He will leave after his research.

You guys are pretty retarded.



And Libya is in that condition thanks to western douchbagery.. Which bombed another country and supported militants with arms..

You destabilised not just Libya but the entire region.

Lmao.....i have never seen a scholarship that is forced upon the person it has been granted. We all have a choice to accept a scholarship or not. I'm sure he could have decline it if he wanted, but we all know why he didnt. Lool. If he had declined im more than sure there are hundred of thousands more pakistanis waiting in a queue to have this honour . Lol So he would have done them a big favour by declining it. Too bad he didnt, but was instead all too happy to come to a christian evil fascist country to live and study. What an hypocrite.
I wiuld never go to a contry i consider evil or which i dont have a favourable view of. That will be funny. Lol

 

[Sage]

You would if You have a sense of honour and dignity.
Previously, You claimed You had no choice, which I find hard to believe,
now You just claim it would be stupid not to accept.
You only have to sell-out to get the benefits.

No one is selling out anything ....and what is that ultimate benefit ....You may find it hard to believe ...that's your problem !

So you say you have no honor nor dignity?

Look i could make holiday in a muslim country but would rather cut my hand off before i will ever step a foot into a muslim country again. I dont even use ISIS sponsoring airlines like Qatar or Emirates even when they are cheaper. I pay 500 € more for a flight to Chile because i avoid the cheaper Gulf Airline offer.

I actually stand for my principles and i take hardships on me to stand for them.

You on the other side...

If you would be a honest and real man you would book your return flight right now. If you don't belong here move now!

To step into a muslims country you don't have to cut your hands off, you've to cut your feet off ...You are not travelling in some airlines because you have an option to travel by some other airlines ....
You stand for your so called principles because you toggle between your options ....
I don't have to prove my honesty and being a real man to you ....I'll move when I am done ...I wish demand the same from your troops who are looting and plundering other countries on the lame excuse of 'democracy' and stability.

Who is arming extremist groups in Syria is not fully known.
Aliens from the upper-atmosphere come down and hand them over French and US made weapons

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

So, what the hell does all this have to do with the French opening a military base in glorious Syrian Kurdistan?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

The French will sell arms to any that will buy, no disagreement there. We don't.

Good for you.. But neither France nor Europe in general can talk about morality or other idealist stuff..

I don't preach what I don't practise neither should anyone.

We rejected Pakistan when they wanted Gripen. We do allow people to buy defensive materiel, like EriEye.

Gripes was never on the agenda to begin with... Even at that time Pak was evaluating Rafales.. They wanted 36 Rafales.. But than the massive earthquake (almost 100,000 people killed -- millions displaced) occurred which forced us to drop the idea and if that wasn't enough .. There were massive floods of biblical proportions that negligee quarter of the country..

The responsibility for the creation of ISIS lies solely with the members of ISIS.
It is their choice to create ISIS, and it is definitely their choice to use War Crimes as SOP.

Everything isn't so simple .. Where were religious terrorist outfitted in the past century? None of them existed ...

All of these bastards popped up after west destabilised the region.. From Taliban to ISIS .. They organisations roses up thanks to efforts from needless invasions and supporting them and against your enemies in the first place..

When you talk about the Iraqis rising up etc .. Do tell us what the average Iraqi can do against a heavily armed group lead by former Baathist military officers disbanded by US .. And a secterian regime supported by US that pretty much was the reason for the divisions in the Iraqi society..

Even now you are arming militant groups who would change sides with the blink of an eye.

The Kurds will have no problem creating trouble for Turkey.. The Shia militia and the Sunni groups neither.. And the reason for these divisions ? Invasions and destabilising a dictatorship that itself was legitimised by the west for their interests l.

Who is arming extremist groups in Syria is not fully known.
The U.S. has been dragged into supporting FSA, but that has been a failure.
Who is arming al-Qaeda, al-Nusra and ISIS is less known.

Suspicions towards Turkey, and rich Saudi-Arabians are high.

And guess what ? Western weapons and even militants it once supported have joined Al Nusra and ISIS.. So whose to blame for arming military groups against a sovereign nation under the garb of so called Arab Spring ? Which died in Egypt,KSA,Bahrain and Qatar with US & western blessings ?

Your standard answer will be Israel, I bet...

Don't be a drag queen.. Not everybody here is a conspiracy nut (although Israel has benefitted from the turmoil in the region)..

France is unsurprisingly selling Rafale to Egypt.
I believe that Pakistan is trying to sell JF-17 to Egypt...
The US has blocked arms deals due to the coup.
Relations between the US and Egypt has gone sour due to US criticism of the coup.
Sweden is certainly not selling Gripen to Egypt.

Which arms deals has US blocked? The Egyptians are still buying more Abrams and other stuff from USA .. Fighters ? Well their F-16 fleet is toothless with BVRs thanks to US's love for Israel.

The answer seems to be it is France and Pakistan who are legitimizing the coup.

Pak never thumps its chest over morality... We don't care we have to sell our stuff and we would sell it to Sierra Leone if we have too.. And there has been ZERO news about Pak offering Egyptians anything (from our officials),,,.
We aren't legitimising anybody .. In fact our parliament presented resolutions against the Egyptian dictatorship..
Neither do the Sissi need our pat on his back to appear legitimate rule of Egypt ..

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

This says more about muslims than Western nations.Apparently,most muslims need to be kept chained up like animals and opressed by various tinpot dictators or else they start killing each other and give birth to various jihadist,terrorist organisations.

Happens everywhere .. Even your Balkans and other countries were shitholes during communist or dictatorship eras ..
Your own country Romania was a commie Fukhole with the commie govt accused of massive crimes....

But no other nations invaded and ripped the social fabric of those states and armed and legitimised fringe groups like what happened in case of ME states... Or create and legitimised them in the first place..

Had the same been done in your case you wouldn't be much better than those evil Muslims who should be chained and oppressed like animals.

The world is witness to European bigotry that killed millions... So as I said don't ride the moral high horse..

 

[-SINAN-]

Yeah right,you mean the creation of a ''great Kurdistan''.
Unfortunately for our ''allies'',we wont let that happen.

They don't understand, they won't understand...If Western countries gives green light to PYD for forming a Kurdish belt under our Southern borders....they will have to get in war against us. Already our 1/3 of the Turkish Armed Forces are at the border. If they want to fight and die shoulder to shoulder with PYD, there is nothing we can do.

most muslims need to be kept chained up like animals and opressed by various tinpot dictators

@waz @WebMaster @Manticore

If some Indian says this kind of stuff in the Pakistani sections, he would immediately get banned...Why, especially these Europeans are allowed to spew their hatred and bigotry in non-Pakistani sections ?

 

[haviZsultan]

Good for you.. But neither France nor Europe in general can talk about morality or other idealist stuff..

I don't preach what I don't practise neither should anyone.



Gripes was never on the agenda to begin with... Even at that time Pak was evaluating Rafales.. They wanted 36 Rafales.. But than the massive earthquake (almost 100,000 people killed -- millions displaced) occurred which forced us to drop the idea and if that wasn't enough .. There were massive floods of biblical proportions that negligee quarter of the country..

Everything isn't so simple .. Where were religious terrorist outfitted in the past century? None of them existed ...

All of these bastards popped up after west destabilised the region.. From Taliban to ISIS .. They organisations roses up thanks to efforts from needless invasions and supporting them and against your enemies in the first place..

When you talk about the Iraqis rising up etc .. Do tell us what the average Iraqi can do against a heavily armed group lead by former Baathist military officers disbanded by US .. And a secterian regime supported by US that pretty much was the reason for the divisions in the Iraqi society..

Even now you are arming militant groups who would change sides with the blink of an eye.

The Kurds will have no problem creating trouble for Turkey.. The Shia militia and the Sunni groups neither.. And the reason for these divisions ? Invasions and destabilising a dictatorship that itself was legitimised by the west for their interests l.


And guess what ? Western weapons and even militants it once supported have joined Al Nusra and ISIS.. So whose to blame for arming military groups against a sovereign nation under the garb of so called Arab Spring ? Which died in Egypt,KSA,Bahrain and Qatar with US & western blessings ?

Don't be a drag queen.. Not everybody here is a conspiracy nut (although Israel has benefitted from the turmoil in the region)..



Which arms deals has US blocked? The Egyptians are still buying more Abrams and other stuff from USA .. Fighters ? Well their F-16 fleet is toothless with BVRs thanks to US's love for Israel.



Pak never thumps its chest over morality... We don't care we have to sell our stuff and we would sell it to Sierra Leone if we have too.. And there has been ZERO news about Pak offering Egyptians anything (from our officials),,,.
We aren't legitimising anybody .. In fact our parliament presented resolutions against the Egyptian dictatorship..
Neither do the Sissi need our pat on his back to appear legitimate rule of Egypt ..

I agree with the gist of this post. US and UK should take responsibility of the current terror threat today caused by their interference in other countries. Lets not forget UK and France's interference in Iraq which gave birth to Saddam Hussain. Western colonials left only 4 muslim countries unoccupied during the years of colonialism. They made the current borders which exist of the entire Islamic world. Of course there is going to be backlash

Furthermore fanaticism and terrorism has only seen an increase since the invasions of Muslim countries by US. While there is no justification for the terrible atrocities terrorists commit on innocent hapless people there is also a direct link between American invasion and interference in various muslim states and the rise of terrorism. Wherever the US has interfered there has been chaos but Americans fail to understand that it is American policies that cause hatred for them, not the other way around.

It is true that one event gave birth to the modern terrorist movement was the support of violent jihadis in a pointless war in Afghanistan just for short term goals of defeating the Soviets. When US after using the jihadis to beat the Soviets abandoned muslims worldwide to the mullahs including Afghanistan to the Taliban regime until of course there was9/11. If US ally Zia had not died Pakistan might have been another Afghanistan. I thank god that it did not grow more mullah-cized

 

[flamer84]

Happens everywhere .. Even your Balkans and other countries were shitholes during communist or dictatorship eras ..
Your own country Romania was a commie Fukhole with the commie govt accused of massive crimes....

But no other nations invaded and ripped the social fabric of those states and armed and legitimised fringe groups like what happened in case of ME states... Or create and legitimised them in the first place..

Had the same been done in your case you wouldn't be much better than those evil Muslims who should be chained and oppressed like animals.

The world is witness to European bigotry that killed millions... So as I said don't ride the moral high horse..

Maybe because in Romania the Army openly revolted against the local tinpot when it was ordered to fire on civilians and instead of a civil war they seized Ceausescu and shot him ?

Despite your rant,you still can't explain why many muslims need dictators to opress them so that countries don't fall in bloody civil wars.

@waz @WebMaster @Manticore

If some Indian says this kind of stuff in the Pakistani sections, he would immediately get banned...Why, especially these Europeans are allowed to spew their hatred and bigotry in non-Pakistani sections ?

Are you for real or having reading problems ? I've said that this is what's understood from his post and I'm not wrong as he's basically calling for many muslim nations to be ruled by dictators.What's wrong with my post ? Where am I wrong ? You people are basically defending Saddam,Ghaddafi,Assad,you are the ones cheering for muslims to be opressed and chained like animals.

 

[-SINAN-]

Are you for real or having reading problems ? I've said that this is what's understood from his post and I'm not wrong as he's basically calling for many muslim nations to be ruled by dictators.What's wrong with my post ? Where am I wrong ? You people are basically defending Saddam,Ghaddafi,Assad,you are the ones cheering for muslims to be opressed and chained like animals.

Cut the crap.

The only ones who should be treated as an animal is you and your kind.

Did you deleted your post or mods did it ?

 

[flamer84]

Cut the crap.

The only ones who should be treated as an animal is you and your kind.

Did you deleted your post or mods did it ?

Stop acting out like a little child if you can't understand posts.I can't educate you in here.You and others are argiung that if Saddam wasn't toppled ,Iraq wouldn't be here today.So,what are you really sying?-better to sty under tinpots,no ?

The mods did it.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Maybe because in Romania the Army openly revolted against the local tinpot when it was ordered to fire on civilians and instead of a civil war they seized Ceausescu and shot him ?

So it took you animals half a century of chains and oppressions to depose communist rule?
Way to go !

I wonder what would have happened if USA and other regional powers legitimised and supported the communists and in the end invaded Romania and installed a puppet govt?

That would have been interesting wouldn't it?

Despite your rant,you still can't explain why many muslims need dictators to opress them so that countries don't fall in bloody civil wars.
.

Do I need to remind you of chrisitians getting ruled by dictators and later slaughtering eachother in civil wars ?

Your rants are worth nothing but shyt..

Stop acting out like a little child if you can't understand posts.I can't educate you in here.You and others are argiung that if Saddam wasn't toppled ,Iraq wouldn't be here today.So,what are you really sying?-better to sty under tinpots,no ?

The mods did it.

No, what would Iraq have been if Saddams rule wasn't supported by the west to begin with? Had Saddam not been used as a puppet by US for her national interests ? Had Europe not armed him?

Had there been no invasion of Iraq ? Had a puppet govt that alienated and divided the Iraqi population? Had Iraqi military not been disbanded ? Had USA not fucked the country after the war... Which went in there on false pretexts.. Screwed the country ... Commited war crimes and gave birth to a resistance (as it would in any country). And much more?


Or if this hadn't happened;