So you mean Shia, that are called Shia 'cause they follow Imam Ali (Shia means follower), follow Ibn Saba the one that was burnt by first Imam of Shia 'cause of his Shirk?
I asked you bring me one narration or speech from Shia Imams or clerics that consider him as the the spritual Guru of the Shia ... not the one that was killed by first Shia imam ... we got our sect directly from the Prophet (pbuh) and his household (Imams) ... if you could prove it otherwise please prove it ..
For example Karbala is the one of the most important events in Shia sect .. bring me one word .. just one word that Imam Hussain , Lady Zeinab or their companions talked about this man ... there should be at least one sentence or a vowel about the founder of Shia by them ...
The first one that talked about Imamat of Imam Ali (as) was Prophet (pbuh) not him ,..
A christian claims to be following hazrat Isa (as) .. Does he?
Same is the case with the shia aka sabaists , they claim to follow hazrat ali ra while as in reality they are following ibn saba.
And one does not need statements to prove a thing . Had that been the case the the Christians would be the best muslims as they CLAIM to follow hazrat Isa (as). Remeber the religion of hazrat Isa (as) is Islam...
The above statement from shia historian in his book i quoted is quite explicit about IBN SABA
being the first to talk about the so called IMAMAT of Hazrat Ali (ra) , so you can state anything but the reality is that
YOU FOLLOW IBN SABA DOCTRINE
and not the doctrine of Hazrat Muhammad Saw for had that been the case then like hazrat ali (ra) you would burn those who speak ill about the shaikhain and make belief in Imamat concept an Asool i deen
And please spare me the nonsense from this so called shia ayatoilet