“Forgive my children for not fasting” - Ramadan in Xinjiang

[atan651]

I thought Muslim children under certain age don't have to fast. BTW, fasting is good it should not be condemned.

 

[hasnainfirst]

IMO, religion should not be imposed on children. They should be allowed to make their independent decision when they reach adulthood.

Oh my God , what a genious person , how convenient , guys you should praise this guy ... just kidding , your opinion is not needed , we don't want our children to be atheists like yours , so shut up and besides this whole thing is just a propaganda , Since when did the west become sympathiser of muslims .....

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

IMO, religion should not be imposed on children. They should be allowed to make their independent decision when they reach adulthood.

All children follow beliefs of their parent until they become adults and get ability to decide for themselves thats why son of atheist, agnostic, communist, muslim, jews etc will most probably follow the beliefs of their parent

You can starve people but you can't make people eat, so that whole fasting ban itself sounds like a joke, but I do oppose any beliefs to make children fasting, children need suffiecnt daily nutritions to grow, fasting can have a severe damage to their health and stunt their growth.

Fasting is obligatory only for those who can fast it and it exclude little children, sick people and pregnant woman etc No one will die if eat twice(early morning and evening) in 24 hours. People exaggerate things because they hate Islam. Everyone should be free to practice their beliefs and Muslims are not forcing others to have fasting

 

[lcloo]

I rather not discuss about religious affairs of others because most of the time it ended up negatively. And that is exactly why the Western media is posting negative news, whether true or false, on religion so that there will be heated argument among people, be they conservative, liberal, believers and non-believer.

And with this news, the Western press hope it will divide China and Muslims world, slowing down the rise of China.

 

[beijingwalker]

Fasting is obligatory only for those who can fast it and it exclude little children, sick people and pregnant woman etc No one will die if eat twice(early morning and evening) in 24 hours. People exaggerate things because they hate Islam. Everyone should be free to practice their beliefs and Muslims are not forcing others to have fasting

In China primary schools give student snack breaks in the mid mornings before lunch, usually eggs , fruits and milk, there is no question that China in general allows fasting but I m not sure about the school kids.

Snack breaks in Xinjiang

 

[艹艹艹]

Whether there is a relationship with Canada?？？？？

 

[Khan_patriot]

There's no real way to stop anyone from fasting if someone wants to fast. I mean what are they going to do, force feed millions of Muslims food at random times during the day or what? Even then the fast would not be invalidated because the consumption of food wasn't intentional. This is pure BS propaganda at its finest.

 

[OIO]

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2019/05/forgive-my-children-ramadan-in-xinjiang/

I am not against China but banning Muslims from fasting is disturbing. How come Fasting is a sign of extremism ?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ts-legal-everyday-behaviour-rights-group.html

https://religionnews.com/2019/05/02...fasting-so-us-muslims-are-fasting-from-china/

this is following to the Chinese law.
children are banned in religious activities.
religious activities are banned in school.
religious activities are banned in public.

Oh my God , what a genious person , how convenient , guys you should praise this guy ... just kidding , your opinion is not needed , we don't want our children to be atheists like yours , so shut up and besides this whole thing is just a propaganda , Since when did the west become sympathiser of muslims .....

Anyone dont want to obey Chinese law just leave China.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

this is following to the Chinese law.
children are banned in religious activities.
religious activities are banned in school.
religious activities are banned in public.



Anyone dont want to obey Chinese law just leave China.

So is it chinese laws to feed people or young children by force if they are not willing to eat because of fasting? Is not eating or not eating personal choic3?

 

[OIO]

So is it chinese laws to feed people or young children by force if they are not willing to eat because of fasting? Is not eating or not eating personal choic3?

it's not a good choice to challenge the law in the heart or in action by using children, finally hurt themself and their community.
religion is important in Pakistan, but in China it's different.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

it's not a good choice to challenge the law in the heart or in action by using children, finally hurt themself and their community.
religion is important in Pakistan, but in China it's different.

I wanted to know about laws because state cannot force people to eat something if they are not willing to eat it for whatever reasons. Muslims keep fasting because of their religious beliefs no matter where they live. Pakistani or non Pakistani is irrelavnt here . I dont see any issue in fasting as long as Muslims just keep it to themselves . You are suggesting that they should leave china. Yes they can leave China if they are foreigners and have no freedom to practice their beliefs but if they are local people and china is their country then why they should leave it? Why not fight for their rights?

 

[jetray]

Anyone in China who wants a Communist Party membership, would have to give up his religious believing and practice. You can't have both ways. There is no restriction on regular folks.

Technically agree it makes no sense to be a communist and believe in god.

 

[OIO]

I wanted to know about laws because state cannot force people to eat something if they are not willing to eat it for whatever reasons. Muslims keep fasting because of their religious beliefs no matter where they live. Pakistani or non Pakistani is irrelavnt here . I dont see any issue in fasting as long as Muslims just keep it to themselves . You are suggesting that they should leave china. Yes they can leave China if they are foreigners and have no freedom to practice their beliefs but if they are local people and china is their country then why they should leave it? Why not fight for their rights?

your pain is that can't apply Islamic law in non musilm countries, so you want to conquer the world.
you will feel desprate when you find it's impossible to conquer the world.
they are Chinese they are under Chinese law, what's your business?

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Technically agree it makes no sense to be a communist and believe in god.

Is not commusim economic model?

your pain is that can't apply Islamic law in non musilm countries, so you want to conquer the world.
you will feel desprate when you find it's impossible to conquer the world.
they are Chinese they are under Chinese law, what's your business?

You are making zero sense. No one should control others and no one should be controlled by others. Everyone should be free to live his life as per his own beliefs. To be Chinese is national identity . Its not religious identity so yes tell me what laws is there in china which will force chinse muslims to eat food if they are not eating it because of fastins? Is any such law exist in china which feed people by force? you are not answering my simple question

 

[Krptonite]

Naah, no mercy from me man...they deserve punishment, humiliation and a rude awakening for making the mistake of thinking that they even have the "ghar may ghuss kay maar nay ka" option. they shall be psychologically subdued, they shall be forced to feel inherently inferior, weak and helpless in front of us.

Anyways...on topic.

This reminds me of other posts by Pakistani members complaining here about war mongering, xenophobia against Pakistan by Indians on the internet.

Having been on those forums I can say those complaints weren't unfounded either.

But here's the thing though, there's the same pattern of behaviour growing here on PDF, a backlash and reaction against the Indian posters.

Both sides indulge in trolling and mud slinging, no excuses there, but do you really want to turn into habits that people came here to avoid in the first place?

On Topic, can anyone local shed more light on this issue, I can't see how fasting can be construed as malicious.