First time Pak Jewish allowed travelling to Israel

[Arsalan 345]

So we should also ban people from visiting India?



I kinda agree on the principle that if even the Arabs have cordial relations with Israel, then whats the point of us being so rigid. Also if we can have full diplomatic relations with a country will call our enemy "India" then why not Israel. Another country that Pakistan doesn't have diplomatic relations is Armenia, which we did to show solidarity with Azerbaijan which again doesn't make sense when even Azeris themselves have diplomatic relations with Armenia.



Did you know that even the Prophet had done a treaty with the Jews? Have a read through the treaty

http://www.cyberistan.org/islamic/treaty22.html

please don't compare prophet with other human beings.if you want to support government,go support.don't give examples of religion.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

What should be disturbing to us is how on fraud managed to escape to Israel. And how our government submitted to the pressures of Israeli government bodies and ngos dedicated to facilitating ALIYAH of jews living outside Israel.

All for one fake jew.

Google ALIYAH

Incompetent Police could have arrested him for questioning not open fire on them and then justifying it too they should be hanged for incompetent work.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

please don't compare prophet with other human beings.if you want to support government,go support.don't give examples of religion.

Prophets were made prophets and examples for us human beings to follow and copy them are u nuts?

 

[Arsalan 345]

Prophets were made prophets and examples for us human beings to follow and copy them are u nuts?

please stop this religion discussion.you can't reference islam for making friendship with jews.stop this nonsense.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

please stop this religion discussion.you can't reference islam for making friendship with jews.stop this nonsense.

Jews are natural friends of muslims. Only state of israel is the threat and illegal. We don't have problem with jews. Some of my friends are jews. Most of the messengers of Allah i admire are jews. Peace be upon them.

Im just saying don't drag all jews into this.

 

[Arsalan 345]

Jews are natural friends of muslims. Only state of israel is the threat and illegal. We don't have problem with jews. Some of my friends are jews. Most of the messengers of Allah i admire are jews. Peace be upon them.

Im just saying don't drag all jews into this.

making jews you friend is another thing and giving examples from religion is a totally different thing.i also have jew friends.jews aren't our natural friends.our ancestors fought well against them and when it comes to religion,both of us can attack each other.yes israel is an example but remember they aren't your friends.they don't accept our prophet as last prophet.our book taught us to respect people who are people of book.they have the book.we can respect them but please don't forgive your duty towards your religion.your brothers your sisters,they are dying each day.you can see other jews and christian states supporting israel.they are together against us but unfortunately we aren't.

 

[ARMalik]

No point in discussing a fake news spread by social media Channels who we all know are controlled from someone else.

Position on Israel unchanged: foreign office
https://www.dawn.com/news/1459621/position-on-israel-unchanged-foreign-office

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

making jews you friend is another thing and giving examples from religion is a totally different thing.i also have jew friends.jews aren't our natural friends.our ancestors fought well against them and when it comes to religion,both of us can attack each other.yes israel is an example but remember they aren't your friends.they don't accept prophet as last prophet.our book taught us to respect people who are people of book.they have the book.we can respect them but please don't forgive your duty towards your religion.your brothers your sisters,they are dying each day.you can see other jews and christian states supporting israel.they are together against us but unfortunately we aren't.

Only state of israel political entity and people in that state are seen and treated as a threat. U cant blame every jew. Thats all im saying.

And examples from prophets lives are there to be followed . they led their lives and became examples for you and me to follow them.

We should try to be just like them if not 100% then 90% and then keep on trying to be like them 100% trying counts.

Israeli state is a threat yes. All jews are a threat ? No.

 

[Nasr]

please stop this religion discussion.you can't reference islam for making friendship with jews.stop this nonsense.

I won't blame you for your remarks on not wanting to read about religion in this or any other discussion. Since most so-called religious mullahs in Pakistan have exhibited shamefully disgraceful behavior over the years. They aren't true representatives of Islam.

But then, if you so despise religious discussion on political subjects. Then in case of israel, you should be equally displeased. For israelis claim to be Jews (when they're not), and therefore claim to the Holy Land as the chosen people of God (when they're not). On both counts, Islam debunks their claims. Yet some insist to not bring religion into this discussion. While it is israel which claims to have the "God given right to the Holy Land." Hypocrisy is blatantly visible here. From plight of the Palestinian people, their homes demolished continously, it's a systematic extermination by those who have the audacity to claim that they're the survivors of the alleged holocaust.

Yet some of my own countrymen, insist that there is no harm in recognizing the illegal, illegitimate and terrorist state of israel. Perhaps you should all see their true faces to believe in what the ones who vehemently object to the recognition of israel as a state.

That is their true face

 

[Mahmood-ur-Rehman]

24-01-2019

ISLAMABAD: Call it a diplomatic thaw or a baby step towards that side, Pakistan has not only permitted its Jewish citizen to travel to Israel but also encouraged him to publicise this permission, less than three months after the reported arrival of Israeli plane in Islamabad.

Fishel Khalid, 31, will be the first Pakistani in public knowledge as he had been permitted to travel to Israel. He lives in Karachi and has been very open about his religious beliefs. Son of a Muslim father and Jewish mother, Fishel chose to become a Jew and got it registered with Nadra. His four brothers opted Islam. There are around 700-800 Jews in Pakistan. Fishel applied for permission through an app of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs on Oct 28, three days after an Israeli journalist tweeted about a plane flown from Tel Aviv landed in Islamabad which the government had vehemently denied.

On January 2 this year, Fishel received a call from Foreign Ministry informing him the grant of permission that he tweeted only Wednesday. “Dear @ImranKhanPTI on Jan 2 Ministry of Foreign Affairs called to informing that I can visit Jerusalem, Israel on Pakistani passport. I’m applying visa from Israeli embassy. Thank u Dr Faisal,” his tweet reads. Official twitter handles of MoFA, its spokesperson Dr Faisal, Information Minister Fawad Chaudhry, DG ISPR Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor and Bilawal Bhutto have been tagged in this tweet.

When Dr Faisal was contacted for comments, he feigned ignorance and asked this correspondent to share the purported tweet. He promised to return after checking but he neither returned the call nor attended when rang again to press for the comment.

However, The News has learnt on good authority that Fishel was encouraged by the office of Dr Faisal to tweet the permission granted by the government and that important government functionaries be tagged in this tweet. Fishel didn’t offer any comment when contacted to inquire about this. “I don’t want to ruin my efforts by indulging in any such controversy,” he said.

A source in the MoFA privy to this development said Fishel applied for the permission on Oct 28 through the ministry’s app; his request was forwarded to Sindh chief secretary for background check as the applicant is Karachi based. It was then forwarded to the PM Office and the permission was granted after approval from there.

How will he travel on Pakistan passport? It is specifically mentioned that the holder of this document can use for travel everywhere in the world except Israel. Fishel said he could apply for Palestinian visa for visit on their side of the territory. From there, he can enter Israel. Alternatively, he can directly apply for Israeli visa as there is no bar from that side; only hurdle was Pakistani government which has already granted permission, though not in writing. Fishel says he has contacts in Israel willing to help him by all means.

Although Fishel has been quite open on social media and had been interviewed by foreign media, he wrote the first article for an English daily in Pakistan last year. In the piece published in July 2018 titled “I’m a Jewish and a Pakistani…let me go to Israel” he made a passionate appeal that he be granted freedom to religion through allowing him visit holy places in Israel.

“I am stuck in a real life conundrum. Being a practicing Jewish man, I want the freedom to perform my religious duties, a right granted to me and other minorities in the country by the constitution,” he wrote. However, Fishel continued, the reality is that my Pakistani passport states that ‘this passport is valid for all countries of the world, except Israel’.

“As per the constitution, every citizen has the right to practice their religion, including religious pilgrimages. How then, can the state be justified in prohibiting not only Jews, but Pakistani Christians, Messianic Jews, and even Muslims from travelling to Jerusalem? This self-conflicting sentence on our passports is flawed and inconsistent with our constitution, and it is time to challenge this archaic law,” he noted.

Now, his wish has finally been granted. Whether it signals a step towards setting up relations with Israel or has been granted purely to acknowledge the right of a Jewish citizen remains to be seen.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/422918-first-time-pak-jewish-allowed-travelling-to-israel

Good move by Government . Government is responsible to protect its citizen rights if one wants to visit one's Holy places no mater what religion one has (Allah has given the freedom to chose the faith). All Pakistani national has equal right and freedom to move any where in the world .

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

I won't blame you for your remarks on not wanting to read about religion in this or any other discussion. Since most so-called religious mullahs in Pakistan have exhibited shamefully disgraceful behavior over the years. They aren't true representatives of Islam.

But then, if you so despise religious discussion on political subjects. Then in case of israel, you should be equally displeased. For israelis claim to be Jews (when they're not), and therefore claim to the Holy Land as the chosen people of God (when they're not). On both counts, Islam debunks their claims. Yet some insist to not bring religion into this discussion. While it is israel which claims to have the "God given right to the Holy Land." Hypocrisy is blatantly visible here. From plight of the Palestinian people, their homes demolished continously, it's a systematic extermination by those who have the audacity to claim that they're the survivors of the alleged holocaust.

Yet some of my own countrymen, insist that there is no harm in recognizing the illegal, illegitimate and terrorist state of israel. Perhaps you should all see their true faces to believe in what the ones who vehemently object to the recognition of israel as a state.

That is their true face

Same story over and over again. They come in kill people make jewish state for a few years get kicked out again killed etc then in time come back again. Alwaya claimimg God Gave it to them its their right. Promised land. But they forget they made a promise to God Almighty as well. And God Said you keep ur promise and I shall keep mine.
They always seem to forget the promise they made to Allah and only remember what Allah promised them in return.

Anyways this is the same story of 4000 years. History keeps repeating itself. In time this will be solved. But we do get ur point these are primitive people with powerful friends.

As for Killing Jesus Christ peace be upon him Allah says they killed Him not but they think they killed him through roman hands. Jesus was never put on the cross he was Saved by Allah.

That promise they made to Allah in time time of Moses PBUH that promise has factor of them trying to kill Jesus PBUH and their claim that Mohmmad PBUH is a fake Prophet just like they allege Jesus PBUH was a fake messenger.

As for no religious comments or discussion. State of pakistan and state of israel are created in the name of same God and for the same sake giving religious freedom and home to the followers of that faith. Ofcourse they call their faith by a different name and we different . but its the one and same.

So religious comments and discissions sometikes are unavoidable. When it comes to these two countries.

 

[python-000]

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[ghazi52]

'Judaism': Pakistan issues fresh passport to its Jewish citizen

KARACHI: Fishel Khalid, 31, who has declared himself as a 'Jew' has been issued a fresh passport by the Pakistani authorities, which mentioned his religion as 'Judaism', BBC Urdu reported.

According to the report, Khalid was in contact with NADRA since 2016 to get himself registered as a Jew and after a long battle his claim was admitted by the government.

“Although I was registered as a Muslim at birth, but I told NADRA that I am not a practicing Muslim and provided them all the details and documents they asked for in order to cross check my information,” he told BBC.

A news story in this newspaper, reported Thursday that Khalid has been permitted by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to travel Israel on the Pakistani passport, which is otherwise not possible due to an official ban.

He will be the first person in public knowledge allowed to travel Israel on official documents.

Khalid told BBC that he requested Prime Minister Imran Khan last October through ‘Pakistan Citizen Portal’ that he wanted to go Israel on his passport.

The PM Office then forwarded the request to the Foreign Office which sough Sindh government’s input and after getting opinion from all the stakeholders, Khalid was informed that he can request for Israeli visa on the Pakistani passport.

 

[El Sidd]

'Judaism': Pakistan issues fresh passport to its Jewish citizen

KARACHI: Fishel Khalid, 31, who has declared himself as a 'Jew' has been issued a fresh passport by the Pakistani authorities, which mentioned his religion as 'Judaism', BBC Urdu reported.

According to the report, Khalid was in contact with NADRA since 2016 to get himself registered as a Jew and after a long battle his claim was admitted by the government.

“Although I was registered as a Muslim at birth, but I told NADRA that I am not a practicing Muslim and provided them all the details and documents they asked for in order to cross check my information,” he told BBC.

A news story in this newspaper, reported Thursday that Khalid has been permitted by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to travel Israel on the Pakistani passport, which is otherwise not possible due to an official ban.

He will be the first person in public knowledge allowed to travel Israel on official documents.

Khalid told BBC that he requested Prime Minister Imran Khan last October through ‘Pakistan Citizen Portal’ that he wanted to go Israel on his passport.

The PM Office then forwarded the request to the Foreign Office which sough Sindh government’s input and after getting opinion from all the stakeholders, Khalid was informed that he can request for Israeli visa on the Pakistani passport.

The nose tells a different story

 

[Arsalan 345]

Only state of israel political entity and people in that state are seen and treated as a threat. U cant blame every jew. Thats all im saying.

And examples from prophets lives are there to be followed . they led their lives and became examples for you and me to follow them.

We should try to be just like them if not 100% then 90% and then keep on trying to be like them 100% trying counts.

Israeli state is a threat yes. All jews are a threat ? No.

we must not try to be like them.we have our own religion.why do you want to be like jews? you have your religion,your holy Book.we must learn our religion rather than making them our natural friends.they can't be our natural friends.if you want to be like them then try.we as a muslim don't want to be like them.saladdin ayubbi said it long time ago that a time will come when muslims become weak and i think he was right.

I won't blame you for your remarks on not wanting to read about religion in this or any other discussion. Since most so-called religious mullahs in Pakistan have exhibited shamefully disgraceful behavior over the years. They aren't true representatives of Islam.

But then, if you so despise religious discussion on political subjects. Then in case of israel, you should be equally displeased. For israelis claim to be Jews (when they're not), and therefore claim to the Holy Land as the chosen people of God (when they're not). On both counts, Islam debunks their claims. Yet some insist to not bring religion into this discussion. While it is israel which claims to have the "God given right to the Holy Land." Hypocrisy is blatantly visible here. From plight of the Palestinian people, their homes demolished continously, it's a systematic extermination by those who have the audacity to claim that they're the survivors of the alleged holocaust.

Yet some of my own countrymen, insist that there is no harm in recognizing the illegal, illegitimate and terrorist state of israel. Perhaps you should all see their true faces to believe in what the ones who vehemently object to the recognition of israel as a state.

That is their true face

i don't support mullah neither i support liberals.i just want to say that we must not make them our natural friends.they can't be our friends.you can read foxtrox delta comment.he wants to be like them.it's disgraceful.your lord has said that our prophet is the last prophet.jews don't recognize our prophet.why the hell we would copy them? there is nothing good in jews except the book.yes God has sent many prophets and we respect them all but islam is our identity,our religion.we must not behave like a jew or support them against a common cause like killings of muslims.