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First Squadron of JF-17 Inducted on 18/02/2010

PLAAF is replacing it’s aging Q-5s, J-7s etc with the J-10s, something they can easily afford but we can not. They don’t need (as of yet) the FC-1 as a batter alternative is available to them not because the FC-1 has no potential.

Sir they are inducting 150 FC-1, its confirmed by Nabil and Chinese Aviation Website. Heres the link:

Chinese Military Aviation | China Air Force
 
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we sholudn,t bother whether others are inducting it or not...
its upto our expectation thats what we need so cheers ....... and there are a large no of improvements have been made since 1st flight .... and it will improve with every coming day.....
 
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Great! It took me more than 20min to go through all the posts of the thread.

Congratulations to PAF and all Pakistani brothers!

:pakistan::china:

Long live Pak-Sino Friendships!
 
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Congrats to PAf and PDF members ,can any one put the specs of the Chinese radar which JF-17 is having ? and the avionics package ? Good to see some new jets getting inducted in the subcontinent ,Jf-17 for PAF and Mig29k for IN
 
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They are inducting 150 FC-1's, so thats a mistake on your part my friend. Besides we dont need the approval of Chinese to know how good the JF17 is, PAF has tested this platform and it has exceeded their expectations. PLAAF has a different doctrine which is fullfilled with long range heavy fighters(J10 and J11), even with this doctrine they are still inducting FC-1.

They are inducting 150 FC-1's? Source please, ofcourse they have different doctrine, As J-10 is what they consider good....

Did you know that JF17 have defeated our F16's constantly in dogfights, do i need to remind you that F16A's are the most manuverable and agile out of the entire F16 Series. Thats just its dogfighting capabilities, i am not even going to talk about its avionics and radars because they are extremely advanced. My suggestion is that you educate yourself on JF17, Nabil would be a good source since he gets his info first hand. Unfortunately PAF nor the PLAAF have revealed its capabilities, so i can understand if your knowledge is handicapped on this issue.

First of all I would like to say to you that gone are those days when There was Dog fighting.... Even if there are You are comparing your JF-17 with an Aircraft of Mid 70's....... And Still F-16 remains your back bone.... And could you show me a good reliable source where your JF-17 has Out performed F-16's? My suggestion to you is that You educate yourself about your Aircraft......
 
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The issues you have raised have repeatedly been addressed in various threads, still I am replying as a refresher.

Who said it is?

Your own people say so, F-16 is your front line fighter, Your own people say JF-17 out performs F-16 A

So what? Is this for the first time the IAF is enjoying a numerical superiority over the PAF?

They why does Your member say IAF is worried and Indians are crying over it?

Who said it is for the deep strike mission? Army/PAF will most probably be using the cruise missiles or the F-16 Blk-52/J-10Bs for these purposes.

You seem educated, please try to make your members understand what you just said.

PLAAF is replacing it’s aging Q-5s, J-7s etc with the J-10s, something they can easily afford but we can not. They don’t need (as of yet) the FC-1 as a batter alternative is available to them not because the FC-1 has no potential.

Might be, but as per your members They say PLAAF is inducting 150 FC-1... I guess Its time for you to make them understand the truth
 
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SU-30 is not even iducted buy russia so this also could very well show its potential

and f-16 E/F block 60 is not inducted by US this also could very well show its potential

u all indians thnk urself as scholars lol keep dreaming
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Suk 30 Is not only inducted in Russia but also in China and India...lol.. yes we are scholars...... And If F-16 is not inducted in USA what has it got to do with India, you must be the one who must be worried not us...:lol:
 
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I don't think so. J 10 is not yet inducted because it's still going through tests. Once it is done it will be inducted.

Secondly Sukhoi 30 MKI a deep striker? It is an air superiority fighter though it performs other roles also. It would not be advisable to send MKI deep into enemy territory even with escorting AC due to its RCS.

J10 is inducted at least 150 at the end of 2008,if you want you can translate the next paper
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J—10(括号内为列装时间)
空军实训中心13团(2003年2月最早列装)
成都空军44师131团(2004年)
南京空军3师8团(2005年)
广州空军2师5团(2006年)
沈阳空军1师2团(2007年)
北京空军24师72团(2008年)
说明:从各种信息可以知道,每个歼10团满装时有28架歼10,由此可以推算至2009年中国空军至少装备了150多架歼10(实训中心13团估计是混装,按歼10占一半计算为14架左右),分别列装6个航空团。
根据国内外公开的资料推测,中国空军最终会装备300架歼10(包括各种改型),如此中国空军(包括海军航空兵)今后还要列装近150架各型歼10,可以装备至少5个航空团。今后兰州空军和济南空军还会各有一个航空兵师的其中一个航空团列装歼10(估计是空37师和空19师),达到各大军区空军都拥有一个歼10团,以实现均衡分布。剩下的3个歼10团应该分别列装3大舰队的海军航空兵。
2、
歼11A、B(包括苏—27SK、苏—27UBK)
沈阳空军1师1团(歼11B)
广州空军2师6团
成都空军33师98团
济南空军19师55团
北京空军7师19团
兰州空军6师16团
南京空军14师40团
说明:从公开资料可得知,中国从上世纪九十年代起分三批先后进口了78架原产俄罗斯的苏—27SK和苏—27UBK(第一批26架,第二批24架,第三批28架),然后按许可证在国内组装生产了95架歼—11,再后来便停止了歼—11的组装生产(本来可以按许可证组装生产200架),转而生产基本国产化的歼11B(在采用WS10A“太行”发动机后则百分之百国产化了)。
歼11B量产后率先列装素有中国空军王牌之称的空1师,估计接着还会列装空2师,而这两个师原先装备的歼—11会转归其它航空兵师(估计是空30师和空42师),使中国空军最终有9个航空团装备歼11系列(包括歼11A、歼11B、苏27SK、苏27UBK),按照平均每个团装备24架计算,总数将达到220架左右。
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苏—30MKK(包括苏—30MK2)
南京空军3师9团
南京空军29师85团
广州空军18师54团
空军实训中心3团
海军航空兵4师10团(苏—30MK2)
说明:本世纪初,中国先后从俄罗斯进口了76架苏—30MKK和24架苏—30MK2,前者列装中国空军的4个航空团,后者列装海军航空兵的1个团(海空雄鹰团)。
本来俄罗斯希望中国进口更多的苏—30MKK,但中国自己研制出了歼11B以后,不要说苏—30MKK,就是俄罗斯极力向中国推荐的苏—35中国空军也兴趣不大。由此可以看出,经过近十年来的励精图治,中国的航空工业取得了长足进步,今后只有第四代的战机技术才会吊起中国空军的购买欲。
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歼轰—7A(包括歼轰—7)
南京空军28师83团
济南空军5师15团
沈阳空军11师33团
海军航空兵5师20团
海军航空兵9师27团
海军航空兵6师16、17团(歼轰—7)
说明:随着中国空军(包括海军航空兵)从强调国土防空向注重攻防兼备的战略转变,今后将会有更多的歼轰—7A列装中国空军和海军航空兵,以取代已经老旧远远不能胜任现代空战的强—5系列。目前海军三大舰队均有航空兵师列装歼轰—7或歼轰—7A,空军也有三个航空兵师各有一个航空团改装歼轰—7A,估计稍后北京空军15师的一个团很快就会用歼轰—7A替换老旧的强—5。最终使全军拥有至少8个装备歼轰—7A(或歼轰—7)的航空团,装备数量达到200架左右。
目前中国空军有29个航空兵师,其中3个运输航空兵师(4、13、34)、3个轰炸航空兵师(8、10、36)、4个强击航空兵师(5、11、15、28)、1个特种航空兵师(26师下辖预警、搜救、侦察各一个团),剩下的18个则为歼击航空兵师,除了以上列出的装备有三代机的航空兵师外,尚有沈阳空军21师、济南空军12师、广州空军9师未列装三代机,它们今后会换装属于二代半的歼8F。
 
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First JF-17 squadron forms

The first squadron of new JF-17 fighters has been formally activated in Pakistan.

Gary Parsons - 19-Feb-2010


Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman addresses the ceremony. PAF imageFebruary 18: The first squadron of new JF-17 ‘Thunder’ fighters, No.26 Squadron 'Lightning Thunders', was formally activated in the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) at “one of the PAF’s operational bases”, though to be Kamra-Minhas.

Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman, Chief of the Air Staff was chief guest on the occasion. “We are a peaceful nation with no aggressive designs and want to maintain peace with honour in our region,” he said in a statement. “We are inducting new systems to keep pace with technology and maintain credible conventional balance of force, without which peace cannot be ensured in South Asia.”

The JF-17 will be used in Exercise ‘Hi-Mark 2010’ during September. It is thought that 14 aircraft are in service with 26 Squadron with another 24 to be delivered from the initial production contract batch. The PAF's total requirement for the type is estimated as being as high as 250.
 
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First JF-17 squadron forms

The first squadron of new JF-17 fighters has been formally activated in Pakistan.

Gary Parsons - 19-Feb-2010


The JF-17 will be used in Exercise ‘Hi-Mark 2010’ during September. It is thought that 14 aircraft are in service with 26 Squadron with another 24 to be delivered from the initial production contract batch. The PAF's total requirement for the type is estimated as being as high as 250.

Yes it is confirmed
 
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They are inducting 150 FC-1's? Source please, ofcourse they have different doctrine, As J-10 is what they consider good....

Indian fanboy troller. each air force have different requirments. JF-17 meets our need but J-10A doesnt which was offered quite a time before thats why PAF is considering advance variant of J-10A the J-10B with western systems.

First of all I would like to say to you that gone are those days when There was Dog fighting.... Even if there are You are comparing your JF-17 with an Aircraft of Mid 70's....... And Still F-16 remains your back bone.... And could you show me a good reliable source where your JF-17 has Out performed F-16's? My suggestion to you is that You educate yourself about your Aircraft......
shanti shanti.. ee ferst of aalll eye vould like to chay that you are not informed well of this subject. you can enjoy those BS brain farts in BR but not here. Su-30MKI that you indian brag about can also be traced back to 70s but that does not mean it has 70s technology.
 
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Oh my god they have jf-17. so we need pak-fa or f-35 to counter jf-17????

oh mie godddd.. now we are worried.
just watched NDTV that US has offered a joint venture to India to develop advance version of F-22 and India will provide all the necessary upgrades developed by indians only.

aaa baab raay...

IAF 10-15 years from now
F-22
F-35
PAF-FA
EF
Gripen
Super hornet
F-16s
Su-30
MCA?
LCA?

PAF is only left with "FC-1" and F-sola.
 
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