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Hi Salim,

Thankyou. People don't realize that these forts that the FC is entrenched in were not designed for today's modern warfare. They are a remnant of the past and their location and design is as such that it is very difficult for 50 people to defend it against 400---700 fighters who are pretty well equipped. If the FC man can shoot down 500 yds down slope---the insurgent can also shoot up-slope 500 yds with the same accuracy.

Now on top of that, add to it the fire power of 500 insurgents from 4 sides. You are looking at so much firepower that the 36 men in the fort would not have any chance to raise their heads and fire back----but they did---bottomline is the 36 or 50 is too few a number to hold that fort down against an onslaught of 500 plus. Now if they were between 100 to a 150 and they laid their weapons down---that would be a big concern. But close to half of them laid their lives down---accordingly the battle raged on for 6 hours---that is a long long time for such a small group to hold on against such a large force.

I personally believe that there is a major cover up happening at this time in the millitary. I can't seem to put my finger on the issue. Even the top brass is involved in the cover up. Looks like some really really weak General commanding officer has been promoted to the higher rank.

A bigger problem is that the heart is not in the fight. Until and unless Army feels that it needs to do what it has done in Swat..things will carry on like this.

That Dawn letter is right on the dot. The Army has to provide robust backup to these guys otherwise the entire fight will be left to the Army. The problem is a difficult one so I am not sure if you can single out one officer (Lt Gen Safdar had plenty of failures under his belt and now Lt Gen Masood Aslam (SJ) is currently running the show. He has quite a bit of experience in the northern areas but again COIN ops may require a different mindset.

I think the Army's performance will improve but unfortunately many more lives will be lost in this process.
 
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Blain,

How are you today? You are right---the heart goes out of the battle slowly---you are at battle station---through your binoculars you see armed insurgents moving in large numbers up the slope---you pick up the wireless and inform the headquarters---there is intense firing, mortar rounds coming in, constant RPG fire---you ask for support---you are estimating that they will have some backup in 45 minutes to an hour---you have put your heart out on the line---you have put your body and soul on the line----you hold the attack for an hour, two hours, three hours---you are getting tired---you are wondering where the support is---you start having doubts---about your commanding officers---you start thinking 'I didnot volunteer for a suicide mission' I am here to man a check post and was promised a back up---where is my back up----why have I been abandoned by my superiors---it is getting close to 6 hours now. I cannot hold them any more. They are all around us. Did we die in vain?

FC, rangers or any other para millitary force----as a chain is as strong as its weakest link---these para millitary forces are as strong as their as the weakest general in charge.

But here is a problem I have---within the first half hour---all the defence forces establishments in the country, all the NATO forces at command level in afghanistan and world over would know about this attack taking place---am I being told that if one General was incompetent, there was no suprerior officer incharge who could have taken over the command and taken charge of the situation and sent appropriate backup in time.

My doubts about the capability of our Generals are icreasing day by day---there is a LIE somewhere---I cannot put my finger on it.
 
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AM,

There may be no unified force called the Taliban or even AQ, and it maybe true that Tribal affinity is the core of each group, but then to state that there is no cross border support would also be far fetched.

Misinformation is indeed your game, but you're so poor at it !

I did not say there have been NO border crossings. I've said there have been some, especially of the Afghani nationals in Pakistani refugee camps. What authority does Pakistan have to stop these people from crossing back across the border to their home country. None, whatsoever, and they are sometimes Taliban recruits. However, the bogus claims you, and your friend MrLiteracyproblem have, is that you were saying that a majority of the Taliban from Pakistan were crossing over into Afghanistan and fighting and vica versa. This is just a lie. A very small percentage of the Taliban fighting in Afghanistan are made up of Pakistani nationals, but there is no way that any large scale intermingling (border crossing) would ever take place.

If indeed 100O people can be mustered to attack and it is again repeated, then it is not a very comfortable thought, because under the cloak of being Talibans, they are actually up in rebellion to separate from the entity called Pakistan.

Nonsense. The attack was mustered for one reason only. To rid the place of government control. The tribals joined Pakistan under the deal offered to them by the then Pakistani government..regional autonomy. They have never had any other army, but their own in in their homeland. And it seems they want it to stay that way. It's definitely not about separation as you seem to think.

I rather think that they are misguided Islamists than secessionists!

Wrong, they're traditional, independence-loving people.

Therefore, fighting the Taliban, who think that they are the vanguard of Islam, is still a better option that to ever imagine that secessionists are at work.

Well, it's not secessionism.

It bring back the theory of Pakhtunistan.

You don't half talk nonsense!

Whatever, it is not a comfortable situation.

What is the correct situation?

Let it all pass. In a decade, the Americans will have left Afghanistan, it will perhaps be stable, and the Pakistani military will have withdrawn from the tribal regions. Very simple.
 
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The goverment claimed that Baitullah Mehsud was involved in BB assasination,and they did give out the copies of the telephone conversation they had recorded.Two men were talking to each other.1:Did they introduce themselves on that phone call?(unless they were really stupid,i dont think they did that).so how did the gov know that they were baitullah mehsud men.2:they did congratulate each other.(but they didnt say for what they congratulated each other).it couldve been anything that they congratulated eachother for.
 
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The goverment claimed that Baitullah Mehsud was involved in BB assasination,and they did give out the copies of the telephone conversation they had recorded.Two men were talking to each other.1:Did they introduce themselves on that phone call?(unless they were really stupid,i dont think they did that).so how did the gov know that they were baitullah mehsud men.2:they did congratulate each other.(but they didnt say for what they congratulated each other).it couldve been anything that they congratulated eachother for.

Stupid eh?

Well how do you introduce yourself during a telephone call?

Pakistani inteligence services do monitor such things with ELINT or electronic intelligence and more was probably said on the phone conversation.
 
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The goverment claimed that Baitullah Mehsud was involved in BB assasination,and they did give out the copies of the telephone conversation they had recorded.Two men were talking to each other.1id they introduce themselves on that phone call?(unless they were really stupid,i dont think they did that).so how did the gov know that they were baitullah mehsud men.2:they did congratulate each other.(but they didnt say for what they congratulated each other).it couldve been anything that they congratulated eachother for.
There is a thing called Commonsense. it if that if have heard his voice for many times on Phone or in real & still they cant recognize then they are fool, But our Intelegence agencies are not, so they have recognized him.

Understand!


Regards
Wilco
 
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90 dead in One Shot

PESHAWAR: At least 90 militants have been killed and four soldiers injured in separate clashes that took place in Chagmalai and Ladha Fort as security forces and militants engage in battles across the South Waziristan tribal area along the Afghanistan border.

Military spokesman Major General Athar Abbas has confirmed the incident, saying that the militants attacked the security personnel in the area lying between Wana Road and Ladha Fort.

The clashes came two days after hundreds of militants overran a paramilitary fort in another part of South Waziristan.

In one operation the army attacked a large number of militants who had gathered to attack another attack fort in the region, at Ladha, killing up to 60 of them, Abbas said.

Security forces used artillery and mortars and there were no casualties on the government side, The News quoted him, as saying.

In the second incident, militants ambushed a military convoy but suffered upto 30 casualties when security forces fought back, he said.

Four security personnel were injured in two separate clashes between security forces and militants while two vehicles were also damaged.
Pak Army kills 90 militants in South Waziristan-Pakistan-World-The Times of India

It looks like PA is going to retaliate hard, Vary hard

Regards
Wilco
 
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About 90 rebels were killed by Pakistani security forces in two clashes on Friday in the troubled South Waziristan region bordering Afghanistan, which has witnessed an upsurge in activities by pro-Taliban militants.

The fighting erupted two days after hundreds of militants stormed a paramilitary outpost at Sararogha in South Waziristan, killing at least seven troops. Fifteen more personnel were reported missing following the attack.

Military spokesman Maj Gen Athar Abbas said about 90 militants were killed in the two separate skirmishes today and four security forces personnel were injured. The clashes erupted after the militants attacked the security forces, he said.

"Today at 12:30 pm, a convoy of security forces moving on Jandola-Wana Road was fired upon with small arms and rockets. The security forces retaliated and engaged the militants with small arms and rockets," he said.

The gun battle continued for an hour. Though the exact number of casualties among the militants was not known, "it is estimated that 20-30" rebels were killed, Abbas said. Four security forces personnel were injured and two vehicles were damaged in the clash, he said.

The second clash occurred at Ladha Fort, an outpost manned by Frontier Corps personnel. Militants engaged the fort with small arms and rockets at 10 am. "A large number of militants started gathering around the fort at 3 pm. The security forces used artillery, mortars and small arms to engage them," Abbas said.

About 50 to 60 militants were killed and many more were injured before the rebels dispersed. The security forces suffered no casualties, he said.

The militants took away the bodies of their dead, Abbas said.

An earlier statement from the army said gunship helicopters had targeted two vehicles in the vicinity of Siplatoi Fort in South Waziristan on Thursday and killed eight militants.

The army also denied claims by local Taliban commanders that they had captured Siplatoi fort after Frontier Corps personnel manning it surrendered. The army said the troops are still manning the fort.

Meanwhile, security forces conducted a search operation in Tank district on the outskirts of South Waziristan, district police chief Mumtaz Zareen said. Four persons were arrested during the operation.
Pak forces kill 90 rebels in South Waziristan


Regards
Wilco
 
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Hi,

Voice recognition technology has been out since the 80's---and in public domain in the early 90's---if you are the culprit and they are tracking you---if they have the sample of your voice---the moment you come on line---they got you by the ball joints. So, it is not a big deal that they tracked the conversation as it happened live.
 
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50 arrested; Mehsud distances himself from alleged Benazir
assassin


By Mushtaq Yusufzai & Irfan Burki

PESHAWAR/TANK: Jet fighters and gunship choppers on Saturday pounded suspected positions of militants affiliated to Baitullah Mehsud in the restive South Waziristan Agency (SWA), inflicting heavy losses on both the local Taliban and non-combatants.

Tribal as well as official sources told The News from the troubled tribal region that jetfighters and gunship helicopters dropped 20-25 heavy bombs on suspected hideouts of Mehsud’s fighters in Karwan Manza, Asman Manza, Mushta Tang Garai, Patwelai, Bad-e-Naray, Kacha Langarkhel, Ladha, Makin and Tiarza areas of the agency.

Local people saw two jets flying over the region with some intervals throughout the day and blitzed militants’ hideouts.

Loud explosions were heard at distant towns and smoke billowed from the mountainous villages bombarded by the warplanes, witnesses said.

Artillery shells were also fired from army camps in Wana, headquarters of SWA, and Razmak in North Waziristan on Makin, Ladha and other places where military authorities believed the militants had occupied their positions.

Local residents said a number of houses were damaged in Chagmalai, Ladha and Makin areas.

They said a college building in Ladha had also come under attack and was damaged, but it did not cause any human loss as the institute had already been closed by the authorities.

Majority of the people of the towns have already vacated their homes due to deteriorating law and order situation while the remaining were asked by the government through leaflets dropped from the air to quit the area as soon as possible.

Tribal sources said hundreds of desperate people stranded in the Mehsud-inhabited areas were seen walking on foot to shift to the far-off settled Tank and Dera Ismail Khan districts. Some of the families had to cover a long distance to reach the safer places.

Because of strict security measures and continuous shelling, people had to go to Razmak and Mirali in North Waziristan and then Bannu from South Waziristan’s Makin and Ladha areas prior to their arrival in Tank and DI Khan.

Similarly, people living in Badar, Karama and Saam towns after covering long and difficult routes reached Gomalzam area to move to Tank and DI Khan. They complained about the shortage of food items in the region as the government had imposed a complete ban on taking food items to the tribal agency two weeks ago.

Leaflets were also dropped at Spinkai Raghzai and Kotki villages near Jandola in which the residents were directed to shift to safer places.

Sources said the military authorities in a bid to ring militants had planned to deploy troops at these two strategically important places for action against militants while rest of the forces based in Razmak would launch a campaign from other sides of the region.

Reached by telephone, military spokesman Maj Gen Athar Abbas told The News that jet fighters and gunship choppers made several sorties, but did not fire. He said jetf fighters flew over the area for reconnaissance. He said bodies of 10 militants killed in fighting with security forces at Chagmalai on Friday were recovered Saturday.

The military spokesman said militants fired rockets at the paramilitary fort in Ladha, but it did not cause any harm to the troops. The soldiers based in the fort later retaliated and fired artillery shells at suspected locations of militants.

On the other hand, Maulvi Omar, who is a spokesman for Baitullah Mehsud and his Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), called The News from an undisclosed location and denied suffering losses in South Waziristan as reported in the media.

He said Baitullah Mehsud had distanced himself from an alleged suicide bomber arrested by the security forces in DI Khan Saturday.

“We don’t know the person held in Dera Ismail Khan. There is no truth in reports that he was one of the five men tasked to kill Benazir Bhutto. This is a vicious propaganda launched against us at the behest of America to defame the Pakhtuns,” explained Maulvi Omar.

AFP adds: Troops captured 50 militants in an operation in the rugged tribal region a day after killing dozens of rebels in the area, the military said Saturday.

“Security forces launched an operation in Chagmalai area last night and captured 40 militants,” military spokesman Maj Gen Athar Abbas told AFP.

“The village has been completely cleared of the militants,” he said.

Security forces also launched a search operation in Ladha town and arrested 10 militants including some of their local commanders, the spokesman said.
 
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Frontier Insurgency Spills Into Peshawar

By JANE PERLEZ
Published: January 18, 2008

PESHAWAR, Pakistan — For centuries, fighting and lawlessness have been part of the fabric of this frontier city. But in the past year, Pakistan’s war with Islamic militants has spilled right into its alleys and bazaars, its forts and armories, killing policemen and soldiers and scaring its famously tough citizens.

There is a sense of siege here, as the Islamic insurgency pours out of the adjacent tribal region into this city, one of Pakistan’s largest, and its surrounding districts.

The Taliban and their militant sympathizers now hold strategic pockets on the city’s outskirts, the police say, from where they strike at the military and the police, order schoolgirls to wear the burqa and blow up stores selling DVDs, among other acts of violence.

Suicide bombings, bomb explosions and missile attacks occurred an average of once a week here in 2007, according to a tally by the city’s police department. In 2006, while there were occasional grenade attacks and explosions, the authorities did not record a single suicide bombing or rocket attack inside the city.

The proximity of Peshawar to the tribal areas where the Taliban and Al Qaeda have regrouped in the past two years makes the city a feasible prize for the militants in Pakistan’s quickly escalating internal strife that pits the Islamic extremists against the American-backed government of President Pervez Musharraf.

Though few here believe that the Taliban will rule anytime soon, the police and residents say that by the standards of counterinsurgency warfare the extremists are doing well. They have undermined public faith in the government, sown distrust and made the police fearful for their lives. “People feel the insecurity is so high, no one can fix it,” said Humair Bilour, the sister-in-law of Malik Saad, a popular Peshawar police chief who was killed in a suicide bomb attack last year. “How can the government do anything when the government itself is involved in it?”

She said she and her friends were now afraid to go out. “People go to the bazaar and make jokes: ‘Is this going to be my last trip?’ ” she said.

The extremists have selected the police and the army, two important pillars of the Pakistani state, as particular targets.

Last week, rockets were fired at an army barracks in Warsak on the city’s perimeter, a warning of the power of the militants to strike from Mohmand, a district in the tribal areas adjacent to Peshawar, an area that a few months ago was considered free of the Taliban.

The army headquarters in the center of the city were struck last month by a bomber who was hiding explosives under her burqa that were set off by remote control. The assassination a year ago of the police chief, Mr. Saad, who was killed while on duty trying to control a religious procession in one of the bazaars, shook the city.

“It’s asymmetrical warfare against an established state,” said Muhammad “Sulaman Khan, chief of operations for the Peshawar police and a close friend of Mr. Saad. The terrorists only don’t have to lose it, we need to win it.”

At the core of the troubles here, many say, lie demands by the United States that the Pakistani military, generously financed by Washington, join in its campaign against terrorism, which means killing fellow Pakistanis in the tribal areas. Even if those Pakistanis are extremists, the people here say, they do not like a policy of killing fellow tribesmen, and fellow countrymen, particularly on behalf of the United States.

The Bush administration is convinced that Al Qaeda and the Taliban have gained new strength in the past two years, particularly in the tribal regions of North and South Waziristan and Bajaur. It has said it is considering sending American forces to help the Pakistani soldiers in those areas. Mr. Musharraf has scoffed at the idea.

Any direct intervention by American forces would only strengthen the backlash now under way against soldiers and the police in Peshawar, said Farook Adam Khan, a lawyer here. That reaction spread last week to Lahore, the capital of Punjab Province, where a suicide bomber killed almost two dozen policemen at a lawyers’ rally, he said.

“Pakistani soldiers never used to be targets,” Mr. Khan said. “Now we have the radicals antagonized by Musharraf and his politics of cozying up to the United States. The actions taken by the army in Waziristan and Bajaur and Swat are causing the problems here.” Swat is an area 100 miles north of Peshawar, where the Pakistani Army is currently battling a Pakistani Taliban insurgent group with mixed results.

The standing of the Pakistani military is being further harmed by an increasing awareness here that it is for the first time suffering significant numbers of defections, mostly among soldiers reluctant to fight in the tribal areas. The defections gain only scant mention in the press, but people talk about them.

There are rumors of courts-martial, although the information is tightly held by the army, former officers said. Morale among the police in Peshawar has plummeted amid a series of police killings, making the city far from the glamorous posting it once was, when the police were fighting smugglers and other outlaws.

Terrorist activities around Peshawar began to increase, Mr. Khan said, after a major attack on a madrasa in Bajaur in October 2006, in which 82 people, including 12 teenagers, were killed. The Pakistani Army said intelligence had shown that the madrasa was used as a training base by Al Qaeda. Local residents said the killings were the work of an American remotely piloted drone, a charge that Washington denied.

A few months later, government schools for girls around Peshawar began to receive threats that they would be blown up if the students did not wear burqas.

At one such school, in Shah Dhand Baba, a town on the northern fringes of Peshawar, the principal, Gul Bahar Begum, said she received a handwritten letter in the mail last February demanding that the students cover up or the school would be blown up.

Ms. Begum, who wears lipstick and lightly covers her hair with a scarf, and whose office is filled with sports trophies won by her students, said that about 70 percent of the girls now wore burqas when they stepped outside the school.

“It is the Islamic way to cover,” she said of her instructions to the girls to cover up. “So the militants were right, but the way they imposed their decision was not.”

The students, dressed in loose white pants and long shirts, suggested that they accepted the demands because they had to, not because they believed it was a religious necessity.

Maryam Sultan, 16, who wore a denim jacket over her uniform, said she and her friends came to school in burqas “for security.” Ms. Sultan, who was more interested in talking about her desire to become a doctor, said there was little choice but to cover up.

The outward bravura at the school masked a deeper problem: the inability of the police or any other authorities to deter the militants. At another school where a threatening letter was received, the principal protested.

She made contact with the militants, saying that burqas were too expensive for some of the girls. The militants replied, saying, “If the girls can afford makeup, they can afford burqas,” according to officials in the district. Days later, the girls were in burqas.

Himayat Mayar, the local mayor, blamed the government for the threats against the girls.

He said that during the five years that Mr. Musharraf and his allies in a coalition of Islamic parties, the Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal, had governed the North-West Frontier Province, they had allowed madrasas for young Islamic jihadists to flourish.

“There are so many madrasas run by mullahs that train jihadis and get funds from Saudi Arabia, Kuwait,” Mr. Mayar said. “These jihadists know only jihad. They should be brought into the mainstream.” If it wanted to, he added, the government could easily provide teachers and computers to the madrasas, and register them.

Peshawar’s booming business in illicit Western and Indian DVDs has been another target of the militants. Many of the city’s myriad retail outlets have closed after being bombed, or threatened with violence.

At the Bilal DVD Parlor, the owners, Bilal Javed and Akhtar Ali, said their sales — ranging from “Pride and Prejudice” to “Die Hard 4.0,” to the latest Bollywood films and old Bruce Lee movies — had fallen by 90 percent. Their decade-old wholesale business in the tribal region was finished, they said.

On a recent day, their modern retail store, fitted with polished chrome, was packed floor to ceiling with DVDs. There were no customers. They said people had been afraid to shop there since a bomb hidden in a water cooler exploded at a DVD store across the street last year, killing five people, including a 7-year-old boy who wanted to buy a computer mouse.

“The police chief said, ‘We can’t secure ourselves, how can we secure you?’ ” Mr. Javed said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/18/world/asia/18peshawar.html?_r=2&ref=world&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

This is from the NYT.

How far is this correct?
 
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Troops continue targeting Waziristan militant hideouts​

Updated at Monday, January 21, 2008 1315 PST

MIRANSHAH: Security forces are using helicopter gun ships to root out militants from suspected hideouts in Ladha and Makin regions of South Waziristan.

Security forces have shifted heavy artillery and tanks from Jandola to Chakmalay and Saplatui areas. A massive operation against militants is expected in these areas.

Sources said that the army operation follows an earlier attack by militants on a security forces camp and the cadet college in Razmak, located in North Waziristan.

The cadet college suffered minor damage, while the boundary wall of the security camp was destroyed. No casualties were reported.

Troops continue targeting Waziristan militant hideouts
 
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Ahh Sir Brigadier let me reply hope if you can understand.

Frontier Insurgency Spills Into Peshawar
By JANE PERLEZ
Published: January 18, 2008
PESHAWAR,
The Taliban and their militant sympathizers now hold strategic pockets on the city’s outskirts,
they were always been firing such rockets from mountainouse deserted areas of Peshwar oustskirts and these never been strategic pockets.

Last week, rockets were fired at an army barracks in Warsak on the city’s perimeter, a warning of the power of the militants to strike from Mohmand, a district in the tribal areas adjacent to Peshawar, an area that a few months ago was considered free of the Taliban.

Mohmand is an Agency and not a District.
The writer is total fraud

The army headquarters in the center of the city were struck last month by a bomber who was hiding explosives under her burqa that were set off by remote control.

It was NOT an army headquarters but a normal army check-post.
the army headquarters is situated on a another road

This another proof of fakenes of New Yark times and its writer

At one such school, in Shah Dhand Baba, a town on the northern fringes of Peshawar, the principal, Gul Bahar Begum, said she received a handwritten letter in the mail last February demanding that the students cover up or the school would be blown up.

Ms. Begum, who wears lipstick and lightly covers her hair with a scarf, and whose office is filled with sports trophies won by her students, said that about 70 percent of the girls now wore burqas when they stepped outside the school.

:) i can only smile at this as

1. Shah Dhand Baba, is not a TOWN But a small areas not even a colony and that is situated just about 15 minuts on foot distance from my posh colony

2. Most of the students of that shcool already wear either Buqas or long chaadar (shawl) and do cover their faces that what i know as i know the area very well and those who study there.
3. the writer is quoting the incident from LAST FEBURARY.


The students, dressed in loose white pants and long shirts, suggested that they accepted the demands because they had to, not because they believed it was a religious necessity.

:lol: loose white pants :lol: the writer even does not know there is big difference between pants and Shalwar.

and let me tell this writer of so-called New Yark Times that here in all the Government Schools the students are wearing White Loose Shalwars (which he/she termed as pants) indeed with the shirts and that too not long ones as its the choice of the students to wether they wear long or short shirts.
the only rule which they had to follow is to wear clean and simple uniform without make up and other facny accessories.

Maryam Sultan, 16, who wore a denim jacket over her uniform, said she and her friends came to school in burqas “for security.” Ms. Sultan, who was more interested in talking about her desire to become a doctor, said there was little choice but to cover up.

:lol: we here at Government as well as Private schools do not wear out of Uniform Denim jackets over our Uniform. every school has a specific color sweater or jackets to wear over the uniform and i tell you at govt-run schools there is hardly anyone to afford an expensive denim jacket that too against uniform rules.



The outward bravura at the school masked a deeper problem: the inability of the police or any other authorities to deter the militants. At another school where a threatening letter was received, the principal protested.
She made contact with the militants, saying that burqas were too expensive for some of the girls. The militants replied, saying, “If the girls can afford makeup, they can afford burqas,” according to officials in the district. Days later, the girls were in burqas.

And how did she make contacts with the militants ???????????????????????????????????????

:what:
was the letter mentioning any telephone number on which she had contacted or any other mean and addresses ????

all these letters sent to schools and CD shope were always anonmylouse hence the claim of NYtimes repoter ( i even now dont consider this paper to be used as toilet tissue) if all concocted and fabricated.


Himayat Mayar, the local mayor, blamed the government for the threats against the girls.

:cheesy: i dint know that Mayar had become the mayor of my city.

Rubish NYtimes as Himayatullah Mayar is the Mayor of Maradn District that situated at about 2 to 3 hours drive from Peshawar.


Peshawar’s booming business in illicit Western and Indian DVDs has been another target of the militants. Many of the city’s myriad retail outlets have closed after being bombed, or threatened with violence.

This is the only thing in this BS post i agree to and that is too not neccessary has anything to do with "INSURGECNY: which the title of your post as suggest now i do not know that if it was given by you sir Ray or the NYtimes.


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/18/wo...in&oref=slogin
This is from the NYT.
How far is this correct?

:) its up to you now to accept this BS paper as correct or incorrect.

But i would say Sir Ray Next time you will not atleast make me ashamed and regret for admiring you by posting such BS.

and i am also sure the next time you will also try not to blow your credibility to smithereen by posting such BS and low quaility things deleberatly ;)

Regards Jana
 
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I posted it so that I could know the exact situation, which you have clarified.

In fact, your explanations were very illuminating and educative.

Thank you.

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The word BS is not a good word to use. Slangs are better avoded and instead normal words meaning what you want to convey is a much better recourse.
 
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