Fake Chinese spares for indigenised Bofors guns

[hassamun]

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...-gun/bearing-the-brunt/slideshow/59711165.cms

 

[tw00tw00]

What's India's definition of "indigenised"? Why call it indigenised if it requires imported parts?

 

[Azadkashmir]

They might as well import chinese governmmet to fix the country.

 

[Great Sachin]

not surprised by fake chinese products

They might as well import chinese governmmet to fix the country.

better start checking yourself....you guys have lots of chinese stuff...hope CPEC is not fake

 

[vikata]

They might as well import chinese governmmet to fix the country.

said by someone who is now perhaps legally a chinese colony

 

[grey boy 2]

Here is what has been happening with Indians blame game of the so-called inferior fake Chinese parts
I believed if Indians are ordering such critical parts for your so-called "Indigenous gun", why relied on a "half a million dollars capital registered unknown Chinese company of the below one?
Obviously its the corruption nature of Indians that get yourselves into trouble in the 1st place, NO?

However, things could get no better is that even Indians will finally be honestly enough to order the "parts" from the "original German manufacturer" unfortunately for our dear Indian friends, it still ending up "made in China" whether you like it or not, the German company has been made partnership with Chinese company since 2002, its called "Xuzhou Rothe Erde Slewing Bearing Co.,Ltd"
Don't forget to thanks me for this detailing information LOL

Indians
徐工集团和罗特艾德2002年合资建立的徐州罗特艾德公司

　　现在这一合资公司下属的工厂不仅仅负责国内的轴承需要，还向罗特艾德集团的全球工厂提供产品。从原料供给起的一切工业流程徐工集团可以全部包办。从江苏船运距离也不远。

　　也就是说即使印度即使向德国罗特艾德总部下订单，他们最终拿到的也多半还会是他们认为“偏差过大”，“劣质山寨”的中国零件。

 

[tw00tw00]

CBI begins probe into 'supply of Chinese parts' for manufacture of Dhanush guns

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ture-of-dhanush-guns/articleshow/59703381.cms

NEW DELHI: The Central Bureau of Investigation has initiated a probe into the alleged supply of Chinese parts+ , which were being camouflaged as 'Made in Germany', for manufacturing the 155mm Dhanush guns, an indigenous version of Bofors gun.

Acting on a source information that fake and cheap Chinese parts were reaching the production line of indigenised Bofors guns, the agency has booked a Delhi-based firm Sidh Sales Syndicate and unknown officers of Guns Carriage Factory (GCF), Jabalpur for criminal conspiracy, cheating and forgery.

Bofors artillery guns were used by army during the Kargil war in 1999 that gave Indian forces an upper hand over Pakistan military.

CBI, in an FIR lodged on Wednesday, alleged that the supplier connived with GCF officials to supply duplicate spare parts (bearings) used in the manufacture of Dhanush guns.

The GCF officials accepted Chinese manufactured 'Wire Race Roller Bearings' supplied by Sidh Sales Syndicate which were embossed as 'CRB-Made in Germany', said CBI.

The CBI said that the production and performance of the Dhanush gun is extremely crucial for India's defence preparedness and "wire race roller bearing" is its vital component.

According to the FIR, a tender was floated for procurement of four such bearings according to the Rothe Erde drawing for 155 mm gun in which four firms had participated. The order was given to Sidh Sales Syndicate at the value of Rs 35.38 lakh in 2013.

The order was further increased to six bearings at the cost of Rs 53.07 lakh on August 27, 2014.

The company supplied two bearings each on three occasions between April 7, 2014 and August 12, 2014.

The company submitted 'certificates in origin' showing the bearings were procured from CRB Antriebstechnik, Germany. They were also embossed with the label, CRB-Made in Germany.

GCF tests showed that the bearings were unacceptable due to deviations in dimensions.

The company provided clarifications and assured that in case of non performance of the bearing due to manufacturing defects, they would replace the bearing free of cost and take corrective action for future supply.

"Consequently the bearings were accepted as a special case by unknown officials of GCF Jabalpur," the CBI alleged.

LOL, so it was the good-old fashioned Indian corruption that is the culprit. So why blame the Chinese?

 

[帅的一匹]

Chinese fake was such a crap that the investigators found that even the "made in germany" was not faked properly.

If its true, why you supa powa bureaucrat can't find it before these fake parts entered your assembly line? Means the who Indian regime is full retarded? How can field China with such low IQ? If we supply fake parts to your carrier, doesn't it mean you carrier will blast on the high see?

 

[t_for_talli]

article explains the quality of " indigenous products".

All Indigenous products worked well, the once which failed were Chinese,

Instead of manufacturing it in India, supplier tried to make money by selling cheap Chinese crap, same Item will be produced in India and will work well like other components which did not fail in test.

Lesson for you : Never trust Chinese military hardware

 

[rcrmj]

All Indigenous products worked well, the once which failed were Chinese,

Instead of manufacturing it in India, supplier tried to make money by selling cheap Chinese crap, same Item will be produced in India and will work well like other components which did not fail in test.

Lesson for you : Never trust Chinese military hardware

and the question is what did India actually make that has international acknowledgement?

 

[Han Patriot]

All Indigenous products worked well, the once which failed were Chinese,

Instead of manufacturing it in India, supplier tried to make money by selling cheap Chinese crap, same Item will be produced in India and will work well like other components which did not fail in test.

Lesson for you : Never trust Chinese military hardware

Saudis, Algerians and Kuwaitis have been using Chinese guns for decades, there is nothing complicated about them. Wonder why India needs to import bearings, you can't make them? . If you want a higher spec bearing, then ask us for a more expensive one. We can make low, medium and high quality stuff, depends on your budget.. How come indigenous guns need imported bearings btw?

 

[帅的一匹]

Saudis, Algerians and Kuwaitis have been using Chinese guns for decades, there is nothing complicated about them. Wonder why India needs to import bearings, you can't make them? . If you want a higher spec bearing, then ask us for a more expensive one. We can make low, medium and high quality stuff, depends on your budget.. How come indigenous guns need imported bearings btw?

I think they bargain the price too hard, we have to supply them inferior quantity products. When they fail something, all they need to do is blame it on China.

Barat's inferior complexity can't be changed.

 

[ashok321]

LOL, so it was the good-old fashioned Indian corruption that is the culprit. So why blame the Chinese?

Yes it is a case of corruption from both ends.

 

[Azadkashmir]

said by someone who is now perhaps legally a chinese colony

You can say that, but if I had to choose between indian hegamony rule and chinese rule guess which i would prefer.
With chinese as long as we dont pursue western agenda by being stupid just like india is today, then chinese will be ok. As you can see china has made great strides in improving thier peoples condition and up lifting thier economy, mind you thier are billions chinese. india has uplifted RSS thugs and usa agenda. India has a chance to change that but instead wants to be western shoe shine boy.

not surprised by fake chinese products


better start checking yourself....you guys have lots of chinese stuff...hope CPEC is not fake

lolz if CPEC is fake then why indians going wild and screaming like monkeys.
CPEC is abit too real for indian leadership who are foaming at the mouth and constantly arguing between themselves. As the title says it was indians who purchased chinese parts. Even your flag is made in china.

 

[SBUS-CXK]

All Indigenous products worked well, the once which failed were Chinese,

Instead of manufacturing it in India, supplier tried to make money by selling cheap Chinese crap, same Item will be produced in India and will work well like other components which did not fail in test.

Lesson for you : Never trust Chinese military hardware

Low IQ creatures offer us happiness once again. Why does the India army not choose "made in India"?
So the cheapest and the inferior are Indians, and India is the world's most garbage country. How many MIG, SU-30., and even C-130 crashes in India? This is almost the most reliable plane in the world, but the garbage state is not even capable of maintaining it.

Conclusion: Because inferior Indians are the world's most rubbish, so any sophisticated weapons are rubbish in India.

Saudis Use Chinese-made Cannons in Yemen

PLZ-45

Saudi PLZ-45 howitzers have been deployed to the border in preparation of Operation Decisive Storm. Currently firing at Houthi rebel positions like artillery bombing Saudi border posts, the PLZ-45s will advance alongside any Arab intervention force into Yemen.

Reuters

The Saudi Army is deploying its best cannons, the NORINCO PLZ-45 self propelled howitzer (SPH) to bombard Houthi rebels in western Yemen. This is the first time that a modern Chinese SPH has seen combat. While Saudi Arabia has bought primarily American weapons, recent advances in Chinese artillery technology has actually made Chinese artillery more capable in many respects over its American counterparts.

PLZ-45 IN ACTION

The PLZ-45 is the artillery workhorse of the Saudi Army, it can a range of nearly 40km and can fire American and Chinese made smart munitions guided by lasers and satellite navigation, as well as cluster munitions.

Reuters

The PLZ-45 is a 33 ton artillery vehicle, with a 6.97 meter long cannon that fires guided and unguided 50kg 155mm shells up to 39 kilometers away (in contrast, the America M109A7 Paladin's shorter cannon has a 30km maximum range). First developed in the 1980s, the PLZ-45 did not see widespread Chinese service, though its bigger descendant, the 50km ranged PLZ-04, is in widespread PLA service. The PLZ-45 comes with an ammunition supply vehicle that carries 90 shells, as well as sophisticated counterbattery and fire control radars, in addition to forward observation scouts.

KUWAITI GUNS

While Kuwait has chosen to buy western equipment such as the American M1A1 Abrams tank, it has ordered 75 PLZ-45 SPHs from China. The original 1998 purchase of 27 was intended as a political favor for Beijing, but the Kuwaiti was satisfied enough to keep ordering more cannons.

www.fyjs.cn

Currently, over 200 PLZ-45 SPHs have been sold by China's NORINCO weapons manufacturer to Algeria, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. Especially noteworthy is that while Saudi Arabia also possesses American made M109A5 and French AMX-GCT SPHs, they have chosen more capable Chinese made artillery to take the lead in Operation Decisive Storm, the Arab intervention into Yemen. However, we should not be too surprised at the use of Chinese land weapons; as the 2014 U.S. Defense Department's China Military Power Report noted that Chinese defense contractors like NORINCO are producing world class weapons systems not just in new areas like drones, but also in traditional technology like armored vehicles.

==================================
Kneel down, indiapigs, you insulted the human IQ!