F-14A vs F-15I

[zon95]

Hello comrades Iran, I have a question as we all know.The present time only about possible conflicts between Israel and Iran, so as far as I know, the F-14A is still the backbone of the Iranian army, but old electronic system (which may haveupgraded by Russia), but maneuverability almost Su-27 (ie more than the F-15I) and long-range missiles AIM-54 phoenix.Sure would be a real threat to the F-15I of the Jews?

PERFORMANCE of Grumman F-14A Tomcat

Wing span: 19,45 m. (wings forward)

Wing span: 11,65 m. (wings swept)

Length: 19,10 m.

Height: 4,88 m.

Max. speed: Mach 2.34 (2517 km/h, 1564 mph.)

Empty weight: 39,310 lbs.(17830 kg.)

Max. weight: 74,348 lbs.(33724 kg.)

Power plant: two Pratt & Whitney TF30-P-414 afterburning turbofans

Thrust: 14,000 lbs.(6350 kg.) each

With Afterburner: 20,900 lbs.(9480 kg.) each

Guns: 1× 20 mm (0.787 in) M61 Vulcan Gatling Gun, with 675 rounds
Hardpoints: 10 total: 6× under-fuselage, 2× under nacelles and 2× on wing gloves with a capacity of 14,500 lb (6,600 kg) of ordnance and fuel tanks

Missiles: Air-to-air missiles: AIM-54 Phoenix, AIM-7 Sparrow, AIM-9 Sidewinder. Or amended with R-27, MIM-23

PERFORMANCE of Grumman F-15I

Primary Role

- Tandem seat attack plane

Dimensions

Wingspan: 13.5 m
Length: 19.43 m
Height: 5.63 m

Capabilities

Maximum speed: Mach 2.5 at high altitude,
1,482 kph at low altitude
Range: 4,450 km

Weight

Empty: 14,379 kg
Max. loaded: 36,750 kg

Power Plant

- 2 Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-229 engines with a max. thrust of 29,000 lb. each

Weapons

- 20 mm. 6 barrelled cannon at wing root. Air-to air missiles: Python 3, Python 4, Sidewinder, Sparrow and AMRAAM. Varied air-to-ground missiles and guided bombs.
Total carry load capacity: up to 11 tons

I would go with the Iranian F-14A + IL-76 AEW and AIM-54. IAI Phalcon AEW + F-15I and the AIM-120 will also be a threat.But AIM-120 as far as I know the lower range of the phoenix. We are talking about BVR, and Dogfight, depending on the level of the pilot, I do not know F15I the maneuver with specific numbers?

 

[Mosamania]

Doesn't need a rocket scientist to figure out that the F-15 will come out on top, purely on technical grounds, among other things.

 

[zon95]

Doesn't need a rocket scientist to figure out that the F-15 will come out on top, purely on technical grounds, among other things.

How can ? when the F-15I has been shot down from a distance/BVR ?

 

[mehmeTcc]

 

[zon95]

A Pod Launcher missile ? What does this mean?

 

[Mosamania]

A Pod Launcher missile ? What does this mean?

Modern teen series fighter jets are equipped with advanced jammers that make sure no missile can guide its way into said fighter jets. Doubly true for Israeli fighter jets.

Legacy missiles such as Phoenix missile or Hawk missile won't complete its lock on sequence correctly.

Not to mention that the more modern variants of the F-15E, especially the post 2000 made ones have a significantly less radar cross section than their F-15Cs and older F-15E counter parts. And the F-14 would light up like a sun in the F-15Es radar long before it can see the F-15E who are most likely armed with AMRAAM and AIM-9Xs.

 

[zon95]

Modern teen series fighter jets are equipped with advanced jammers that make sure no missile can guide its way into said fighter jets. Doubly true for Israeli fighter jets.



Legacy missiles such as Phoenix missile or Hawk missile won't complete its lock on sequence correctly.

Not to mention that the more modern variants of the F-15E, especially the post 2000 made ones have a significantly less radar cross section than their F-15Cs and older F-15E counter parts. And the F-14 would light up like a sun in the F-15Es radar long before it can see the F-15E who are most likely armed with AMRAAM and AIM-9Xs.

Brief! Your answers will be is F14A defeated by F15I? According to popular F15I, it would not be such a jamming system.

F-15I

I’d vote that F-14 wins the battle as :

1. Like the Flanker, an F-14’s pilot has his strategic WSO (Weapons System Officer).

2. Like Su-30 and Mig-29, F-14s have a powerful IRST for better enemy target detection upto 200 km away, something unavailable with the F-15. And IL-76 AEW will help a lot

3. Like the Flanker with the R-77RVV-AE-PD, it also has a deadly long-range missile - the AIM 54 Phoneix, again something an F-15 dosn't have.

 

[untitled]

How can ? when the F-15I has been shot down from a distance/BVR ?

The F-15I is even susceptible to be destroyed by an AK-47 let alone a BVR
But the question is what are the odds?

 

[zon95]

The F-15I is even susceptible to be destroyed by an AK-47 let alone a BVR
But the question is what are the odds?

Oh no, it was pointed out winner configuration.We should remember here is F15I not F15E SE (Stealth Eagle). along with the support of IL-76, as far as I know AIM-120C has 1 range less than 120 km.Is a joke with the AIM-54 (150 km/ Mach 5).

I have read somewhere, AIM-54 has killed more than 2 Mig 25 in the Iran-Iraq conflict !

 

[Armstrong]

Sure would be a real threat to the F-15I of the Jews?

Damn, we've even infected a Vietnamese !

 

[untitled]

The AIM-54 was a bomber killer
Not good against fast moving maneuverable fighters

 

[Serpentine]

Oh no, it was pointed out winner configuration.We should remember here is F15I not F15E SE (Stealth Eagle). along with the support of IL-76, as far as I know AIM-120C has 1 range less than 120 km.Is a joke with the AIM-54 (150 km/ Mach 5).

I have read somewhere, AIM-54 has killed more than 2 Mig 25 in the Iran-Iraq conflict !

Iran's F-14s alone shot down between 140 to 197 (numbers vary in different sources) Iraqi jets.But they were old Soviet jets mostly and some Mirage F-1s.F-15 is a different story.It's upgraded versions are very capable and it has better dog fight and maneuver capabilities than F-14.
F-14 on other hand has a better Radar and can detect targets from 200 km distance.I don't know about regular old versions of Phoenix missile, but Iran is producing a home made upgrade of Phoenix missile and we can't know how well it can do against F-15 unless we see it in a real fight.

 

[Audio]

F-14 on other hand has a better Radar and can detect targets from 200 km distance.I don't know about regular old versions of Phoenix missile, but Iran is producing a home made upgrade of Phoenix missile and we can't know how well it can do against F-15 unless we see it in a real fight.

Probably not.

 

[zon95]

Damn, we've even infected a Vietnamese !

Oh, I have no concept of what a Jew and what a Israel , I heard, Jews every move a general in the 6 day war to Vietnam and the war?he finally acknowledged the U.S. failure in Vietnam!is that true?

I type the word "Jew" because I find it easier than the word "Israel"

The AIM-54 was a bomber killer
Not good against fast moving maneuverable fighters

No, AIM-54 is an interceptor for the flying object identified. Except balloon or balloons. It's guidance by Semi-active and active radar homing similar AIM-120.

Iran's F-14s alone shot down between 140 to 197 (numbers vary in different sources) Iraqi jets.But they were old Soviet jets mostly and some Mirage F-1s.F-15 is a different story.It's upgraded versions are very capable and it has better dog fight and maneuver capabilities than F-14.
F-14 on other hand has a better Radar and can detect targets from 200 km distance.I don't know about regular old versions of Phoenix missile, but Iran is producing a home made upgrade of Phoenix missile and we can't know how well it can do against F-15 unless we see it in a real fight.

Yeah, this is a real Iranian , thank for cmt

 

[untitled]

No, AIM-54 is an interceptor for the flying object identified. Except balloon or balloons. It's guidance by Semi-active and active radar homing similar AIM-120.

Here is a quote from a real pilot regarding the Phoenix