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With All this its clear that FC-1/JF-17 is Chinese plane and PAK has nothing Say in it. More the advance the plane is more care /maintenance required.
When India brought Mirage , French asked us to build special Shelter to protect it from Sun/heat or else they wont sell mirages.
Sir i think Pakistan economy is not at a good stage and still we manage to make this bird which was started after you and has been given operational clearance so what are you saying bro i am not disrespectful to LCA but i do think the time it has taken and still not a single sqd ready HAL is the which has insulted LCA
Sir i think Pakistan economy is not at a good stage and still we manage to make this bird which was started after you and has been given operational clearance so what are you saying bro i am not disrespectful to LCA but i do think the time it has taken and still not a single sqd ready HAL is the which has insulted LCA
Lets hope brother i would love to see JFT's in EAF also
Lets hope brother i would love to see JFT's in EAF also
I think you are wrong!
Selling F-7s is a different thing from JF-17. Some countries cannot afford buying JF-17. the price of one JF-17 is equivalent to three J-7s. There is nothing "DIRTY" here as you said
Also until now the sale of JF-17 still have the engine obstacles to tackle. Correct? So countries would not bet on the clearance of the obstacles for their decisions.
1. Where is the link to the source?
2. The statement has clearly explained the problem with the purchasing country.
You cant drive a Formula 1 or 2 race car before you have a driver's licence
Both the people from both China and Pakistan participated in the discussion
It is co-developed product.... more funds came from China than pak....
anyways come back to the topic...
No you are wrong, PAF is fulfilling its demand so we can't manufacture for exports for now that leaves China to do it including all the post manufacturing testing and vice versa. China did not offer FC-1 in the first place instead it pitched in offered a variant of F-7 to bangladesh and nigera. If things continue like that for the next 5-7 years FC-1 exports will definitely be delayed.
Read Tempest II post #264 he has an excellent point.
Both countries have a 50% share in the project.
agreed but who owns IPR of the product will matters, since JF17 have all Chinese components in it, so even PAF export any plane then it has to procure all components from China other then Airframe it will increase the cost of Plane as PAK will add its pie , therefore Countries prefer to buy from China directly which will cost less then PAF produced plane.
China is for business and not for charity.
agreed but who owns IPR of the product will matters, since JF17 have all Chinese components in it, so even PAF export any plane then it has to procure all components from China other then Airframe it will increase the cost of Plane as PAK will add its pie , therefore Countries prefer to buy from China directly which will cost less then PAF produced plane.
China is for business and not for charity.
It is co-developed product.... more funds came from China than pak....
anyways come back to the topic...
prove it......agreed but who owns IPR of the product will matters, since JF17 have all Chinese components in it, so even PAF export any plane then it has to procure all components from China other then Airframe it will increase the cost of Plane as PAK will add its pie , therefore Countries prefer to buy from China directly which will cost less then PAF produced plane.
China is for business and not for charity.
the avionics and radar are produced in Kamra dear and even Pakistan can write the JFT program…………
Some parts of airframe e.g DSI etc are imported with engine……
prove it......
Its entire s/w is written in Pak using C++ language that JSF F-35 also uses.
prove it......
Its entire s/w is written in Pak using C++ language that JSF F-35 also uses.
I'm still Correct you guys need to let F-7 go its 2013 think different don't run for a 10m-50m cash, show the best you've got not selling around vintage. Gripen has been sold with US Engines to Thailand, South Africa, Hungry, Czech Republic. If Pakistan can buy and use RD-93 so can other countries it would be beneficial to Russia. When you say russians are your best allies and they've even offered SU-35 so what is so wrong about purchasing RD-93, russians would be glad to furnish the orders.
Price of F-7 is at 10m [F-7BGI]. Even Angola flys su-27 did you know? so russians have no problem exporting RD-93 to those interested in FC-1 you can sell it with downgraded avionics according to their requirements still it would surpass F-7s in all Areas. After all a basic FC-1 cost 15m they are not going to die paying 5m more for a over all better Aircraft.
so russians have no problem exporting RD-93 to those interested in FC-1
That seems like a strategic decision rather than a financial one.