Erdogan's civilizing policies in North Syria

[xenon54 out]

Tehran does already have its fair share of Azeri Turks living in it. Persians may not like it when an outsider point that out to them though.

This is a can of worms that i dont want to open.

 

[Full Moon]

This is a can of worms that i dont want to open.

With the ongoing re-mapping of the ME, I think Southern Azeris living in Iran now could find their way to independence from the Persian rule.​

 

[AmirPatriot]

Sure Iran is involved in Iraq/ Syria and Yemen as it is the natural force of peace and security in the region...hahahaa.

Don't be delusional. Nation states work for their national interests and scarcely anything else. Iran is involved in Iraq to keep it stable (unless you want to insinuate that Iran wants unstable allied neighbours) and in Syria to protect it's ally.

But when Turkey intervenes against terrorists in its border that have targeted it numerous times from said locations all of a sudden Turkey is an invader

No, because this thread here shows this is more than a counterterrorism operation, it's another plan by Sultan Erdogan to change the culture and allegiance of countries, eventually readying them for annexation.

Keep believing what your "demigod" Khomeini preaches to you and hope the IRGC don't shoot your family during the second revolution which will inevitably come once the head of your twisted theocracy succumbs to mortality. I'll be eating popcorn and laughing my heart out

lol

you are trying to create a ''freindly'' government

Hell yes we want a friendly government in Iraq. We don't want another Saddam. By the way, we aren't "creating" anything, post-Saddam Iraq was friendly to Iran even before we assisted them in fighting this Daesh madness.

Example Afghan and other Shias- You are using them in the name of religious sect or religion to fight for your national interests.

It is in the interest of Muslims to destroy Daesh. Daesh is an anti-Islamic organisation that kills Muslims. So yes, the religion card is valid here.

This might not be called Persianification or Iranification but its the same thing or much worse.

Wrong, we are not changing their culture, we are training them to fight Daesh. AFAIK military training doesn't change your language or culture.

Persians may not like it when an outsider point that out to them though.

If you think we need Wahhabis to tell us that Azeris are a sizeable group in Iran, then you are sorely mistaken.

Only in your mom's home.

Reported. Learn how to take a joke, Wahhabi scumbag.

With the ongoing re-mapping of the ME, I think Southern Azeris living in Iran now could find their way to independence from the Persian rule.

Only in your wet dreams.

Its just one galaxy in Turkic universe

Only one universe in Iranic Multiverse. Takbir!

 

[denel]

Look, my words were maybe a little bit too harsh or sounded that way. Believe me that I will be very happy to see peace in this whole region and not only there but in the whole World. I believe that no nation deserves to live in war, poverty and hunger. Unfortunately the Middle East is in such a huge mess right now that I just care for the well being of Turks first. That's all.

ps I like Tunisia, Algeria and Morocco a lot and they are Arabic (or maybe they aren''t ) so don't get offended by my words.



What is your background, mate? You said your family used to live in the Ottoman empire but your flags show your are from/at South Africa which is not a country where too many Turks live.

Nope... we are not ethnic turks. there are thousands across west africa, east and south africa from that time period. just go over across the atlantic and you will find more in Uruguay, Paraguay, Colombia and Argentina.

 

[Deliorman]

Nope... we are not ethnic turks. there are thousands across west africa, east and south africa from that time period. just go over across the atlantic and you will find more in Uruguay, Paraguay, Colombia and Argentina.

Are you Lebanese? A person with roots in the Levant? There is millions of them all over Latin America.

 

[Rustam]

Tehran does already have its fair share of Azeri Turks living in it. Persians may not like it when an outsider point that out to them though.



Only in your mom's home.

No, Everything is Iranian Property , Including your mothers tent in the Arabian peninsula.

 

[Tshering22]

well,I believe Syria will be(it's the best solution for the war torn country) divided according to foriegn and regional powers spheres of influence just like China for example was divided into spheres of influence pre WWI and WWII. The country will be divided into zones of influence by Russia/Iranian zones(under the Syrian regime) and their proxies, Turkish zones and it's proxies,Western (U.S,U.K,France) Kurdish zones, and maybe some little pockets of lawless zones influenced by the gulf states (led by Saudi Arabia). At the end of the day, the country will never be the same again , that's for sure. . I don't think its a bad solution either , if it leads to stability and peace at last.

Enough with the redrawing of the global maps already.

There have been too many lives lost in the 19th and 20th centuries because of this madness.

Let the countries be as they are and resolve their internal matters.

Turkey will more likely get Syria under their influence rather than attempt an invasion.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Enough with the redrawing of the global maps already.

There have been too many lives lost in the 19th and 20th centuries because of this madness.

Let the countries be as they are and resolve their internal matters.

Turkey will more likely get Syria under their influence rather than attempt an invasion.

Yes, Syria(just like many artificial Arab states in the region ) was an illusionary country we (France and Britain) created anyway and placed the current Assad dynasty in Power. It was never meant to be , we drew imaginary lines and united/brought together people who have nothing in common under a "state/country" depending on which colonial power ruled these territories. Seems nature is simply correcting the mistakes we did. The same thing happened in South Asia as well , where we brought different ethnic groups who have nothing in common under British India , no surprise after we left all these groups (Pakistan, Bengladesh seceeded from this imaginary created country we left behind, and many other separatists groups are still vying/fighting for independence or at least autonomy to this day). In this regard I agree, our past actions are to blame to some extent.

Hopefully, Syria an be divided accordingly at least for long lasting peace and stability in the country. If there are majority of a group/people who don't want to be part of a country, then they have the right to be free to do so or at least have a large enough autonomy to make their own decisions/self ruled.

Nope... we are not ethnic turks. there are thousands across west africa, east and south africa from that time period. just go over across the atlantic and you will find more in Uruguay, Paraguay, Colombia and Argentina.

Where are you from originally then bro? I thought you were South African ? Are you ethnic Arabic Jew/Lebanese descendants who emigrated south ?

 

[Asghar1234]

Yes, Syria(just like many artificial Arab states in the region ) was an illusionary country we (France and Britain) created anyway and placed the current Assad dynasty in Power. It was never meant to be , we drew imaginary lines and united/brought together people who have nothing in common under a "state/country" depending on which colonial power ruled these territories. Seems nature is simply correcting the mistakes we did. The same thing happened in South Asia as well , where we brought different ethnic groups who have nothing in common under British India , no surprise after we left all these groups (Pakistan, Bengladesh seceeded from this imaginary created country we left behind, and many other separatists groups are still vying/fighting for independence or at least autonomy to this day). In this regard I agree, our past actions are to blame to some extent.

Hopefully, Syria an be divided accordingly at least for long lasting peace and stability in the country. If there are majority of a group/people who don't want to be part of a country, then they have the right to be free to do so or at least have a large enough autonomy to make their own decisions/self ruled.


Where are you from originally then bro? I thought you were South African ? Are you ethnic Arabic Jew/Lebanese descendants who emigrated south ?

I didn't read most of your craps. I stpoped at France and Britain.

Britain and France didn't exist when civilizations in Middle East existed. Compared to Middle Eastern civilizations you are just a piece of wasteland at best.

England didn't exist to begin with, but Europeans lived in medieval barbarism age until Iranian sciences could rich Europe and teached you something like thinking, science and brain also exist beside medieval age barbarism.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

@waz

Sorry to disturb you but could you please erase some of the off topic, spam and troll postings here?

 

[livingdead]

English may not be your first language, but the sentiments expresses has parallels with colonialism.. implying that natives have inferior culture... and you are rescuing them.

 

[TheCamelGuy]

All states are artificial depending how you look at it.

Syria has a long history backing up its national identity, combined with Lebanon it would form most of the Levant region. Mesopotamia which is mostly made up out of Iraq has its own identity backed up by thousands of years of history. So does Persia further more east and Arabia to the south.

Calling Syria artificial does not automatically mean breaking it up fixes it, perhaps uniting it with Lebanon makes it more of a 'real' state? This artificial tag is always used by people seeking to break up countries.

As for this news, it's nothing but Turkification of Syrian land, except they're bringing millions of Arabs in their country, have fun.

 

[denel]

Yes, Syria(just like many artificial Arab states in the region ) was an illusionary country we (France and Britain) created anyway and placed the current Assad dynasty in Power. It was never meant to be , we drew imaginary lines and united/brought together people who have nothing in common under a "state/country" depending on which colonial power ruled these territories. Seems nature is simply correcting the mistakes we did. The same thing happened in South Asia as well , where we brought different ethnic groups who have nothing in common under British India , no surprise after we left all these groups (Pakistan, Bengladesh seceeded from this imaginary created country we left behind, and many other separatists groups are still vying/fighting for independence or at least autonomy to this day). In this regard I agree, our past actions are to blame to some extent.

Hopefully, Syria an be divided accordingly at least for long lasting peace and stability in the country. If there are majority of a group/people who don't want to be part of a country, then they have the right to be free to do so or at least have a large enough autonomy to make their own decisions/self ruled.


Where are you from originally then bro? I thought you were South African ? Are you ethnic Arabic Jew/Lebanese descendants who emigrated south ?

Jew but not arab or lebanese (no such thing back then); indeed proud south african (3rd generation). Grand parents always told a small town in northern syria - grand mother went to visit graves when she was alive.

 

[xenon54 out]

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Only a Multiverse in Ottoman Infinity.

 

[AmirPatriot]

Only a Multiverse in Ottoman Infinity.

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Only a dimension in a Persian multidimensional space.