Who are you to say anything about Pakistani Punjabis when you have no knowledge of them?
Just give me examples brah, rhetoric means that you don't have any
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Who are you to say anything about Pakistani Punjabis when you have no knowledge of them?
Foreigner Muslims dominated over you too. If it was your kind of Muslim that ruled over Indian sub continent then you would have the bragging rights. Pakistani Muslim Punjabis have never ruled over or dominated anything.
You guys were always the collaborators/mercenaries or were subjugated. All for some lands and "delights". Tsk Tsk.
Punjabi Muslims had senior positions in the Army of the Mughals, because of their martial prowess, we benefited greatly in land and other plunder.
Just give me examples brah, rhetoric means that you don't have any
Keep believing that...because that is so much easier for you to digest..than "when foreigner invaded ..you could hold on to your own culture that you had following for thousands of years..instead became a part the foreign culture...because it was convenient."Please keep your indian inferiority complex to yourself, we excepted the light of Islam and became part of one of the greatest civilizations in the world.
It is a simple fact that the Sufi = won us over. And we became the sword arm of the faith.
Yep side kicks, collaborators, mercenaries etc etc... never the ruling class material.
What examples?
It is ridiculous to group Pakistani Punjabis together when you have no idea of the different martial races, clans, and tribes and their history.
Keep believing that...because that is so much easier to believe..than "when foreigner invaded ..you could hold on to your own culture that you had following for thousands of years..instead became a part the foreign culture...because it was convenient."
Did any Pakistani Muslim from the east of Indus ever rule anything? Not some nondescript mercenary sidekick.
Did any Pakistani Muslim from the east of Indus ever rule anything? Not some nondescript mercenary sidekick.
Of course ruling - we even ruled our areas in the temporary Sikh regime, the local martial clans were co-opted, that is how Empires work.
Yes. Yes they did.
If you don't take my word for it, please open up a book.
Not good enough eh, certainly not enough to get you the bragging rights. There were many Hindu Rajput Chiefs who had bigger status in Mughal courts than your "Martial Clan chiefs". Do you see Hindu Rajputs going around and doing corny stuff like haha we dominated you for 1000 years?
Who has the time? If you know it already why don't you just jot down a name.
Not good enough eh, certainly not enough to get you the bragging rights. There were many Hindu Rajput Chiefs who had bigger status in Mughal courts than your "Martial Clan chiefs". Do you see Hindu Rajputs going around and doing corny stuff like haha we dominated you for 1000 years?
Who has the time? If you know it already why don't you just jot down a name.
Because I don't want to dig for it, and honestly have no reason to help you derail the thread.
You gave an example of Hindu Rajuputs?
Look at the Muslim Rajputs.
If I have to "dig for it", then its most certainly nondescript mercenary who sold the sovereignty of his people for petty gains.
What about the Muslim Rajputs? Did they ever rule over anything?