Egyptian Armed Forces

[Hydration]

Yes hahahaha

dont worry you didnt miss much i hope that deal will never replace the su-35

 

[Ghostkiller]

dont worry you didnt miss much i hope that deal will never replace the su-35

The problem is CAATSA laws. I think that Egypt will get the F-15 (which variant we don't know i hope not the oldest ones hahaha) and will have AIM-120 missiles maybe in F-16 also. The consequences will in the future when USA will deliver the AIM-260 JATM (range: 200km) on F-15 (if they carry them) so Israel will have those missiles and Egypt not. Exactly the same situation with AIM-7 Sparrow on our F-16 and the AIM-120 AMRAAM on Israelis F-16

 

[Hydration]

The problem is CAATSA laws. I think that Egypt will get the F-15 (which variant we don't know i hope not the oldest ones hahaha) and will have AIM-120 missiles maybe in F-16 also. The consequences will in the future when USA will deliver the AIM-260 JATM (range: 200km) on F-15 (if they carry them) so Israel will have those missiles and Egypt not. Exactly the same situation with AIM-7 Sparrow on our F-16 and the AIM-120 AMRAAM on Israelis F-16

that was dicussed there and i dont think theyre not that dumb to not realise and theres no harsher punishment than what they did to the f16 fleet and CATSAA doesnt even come close these fighters will either be hidden or will stay in russia with egyptian pilots there training for a prelonged period. Theres no excuse for what was done in the 80s and 90s when we were at peace we couldve grew the arms industry and would probably have our own fighter jet by now remember all what we have been through has only been done in 8 years leave it for 20 years more and all of this will be changed

 

[The SC]

The problem is CAATSA laws. I think that Egypt will get the F-15 (which variant we don't know i hope not the oldest ones hahaha) and will have AIM-120 missiles maybe in F-16 also. The consequences will in the future when USA will deliver the AIM-260 JATM (range: 200km) on F-15 (if they carry them) so Israel will have those missiles and Egypt not. Exactly the same situation with AIM-7 Sparrow on our F-16 and the AIM-120 AMRAAM on Israelis F-16

That is the main problem why Egypt won't give up on the SU-35ES,, by the time thoe F-15s will be delivered to EAF the AIM-260 will be ready for Usrael.. And the US might only agree to the AIM-120C which is still inferior to the D in possession of Usrael.. And hey guys we're not even talking about the Usraeli F-35s yet..HaHaHa!

So logically both should come ..or just stick to the SU-35 in great numbers and eventually the SU-57.. Maybe the Checkmate too, to replace the old F-16s..It is an open platform where you can add any system on it as you wish..like an Italian or Chinese AESA radar, avionics from France for example and integrate Russian, Chinese and European weapons on it..At $30 million plus all the add ons let's say $40 million..it is still less expensive than even the Mig-29M/M2..

 

[Abdulaziz Al-Karimi]

dont worry you didnt miss much i hope that deal will never replace the su-35

care to elaborate?

 

[Ghostkiller]

care to elaborate?

I was banned from thread named "Egypt likely to get F-15s: CENTCOM chief" because someone disrespected Egypt so I answered to him aggressively. So ban hahaha. So that's why @Hydration wrote "dont worry you didnt miss much"

He is saying that the F-15 will replace our SU-35 deal because our Military will betray her doctrine which to diversify their weapons so no one can hold a card on you (sanctions, embargo etc...). The SU-35 deal will bring us more options than the F-15 deal because the Congress is always against Egypt for "human rights issues" and the QME law (Qualitative Military Edge). This law makes Israel to have more advance technologies, weapons etc... than any country in the Middle East. That's why Egypt didn't get the AIM-120 AMRAAM on our entire F-16 fleet.

That is the main problem why Egypt won't give up on the SU-35ES,, by the time thoe F-15s will be delivered to EAF the AIM-260 will be ready for Usrael.. And the US might only agree to the AIM-120C which is still inferior to the D in possession of Usrael.. And hey guys we're not even talking about the Usraeli F-35s yet..HaHaHa!

So logically both should come ..or just stick to the SU-35 in great numbers and eventually the SU-57.. Maybe the Checkmate too, to replace the old F-16s..It is an open platform where you can add any system on it as you wish..like an Italian or Chinese AESA radar, avionics from France for example and integrate Russian, Chinese and European weapons on it..At $30 million plus all the add ons let's say $40 million..it is still less expensive than even the Mig-29M/M2..

Forget about the SU-75 Checkmate or SU-57 right now. With economical sanctions on Russia, they can't afford to mass produce them. Even before the invasion, Russia didn't mass produce the SU-57 nor the T-14 Armata. We can't relay on them during this time.
I saw articles saying that the AIM-260 will be not on the F-15 but on F-35, F-18 and F-22.

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/lrew.htm

 

[Ghostkiller]

And hey guys we're not even talking about the Usraeli F-35s yet..HaHaHa!

That's why we bought the Rafale, I think. A Meteor missiles can shot down a F-35 that's why Israel is lobbying France to not sell us Meteor missile. I hope we will get it. For me, if we are contracting the F-15 deal we must buy 50 MIG-29M/M2 with BVR capabilities, to have Meteor missile on our Rafale fleet and maybe we will solve the problem of the Israelis F-16, F-15 and F-35.

 

[The SC]

That's why we bought the Rafale, I think. A Meteor missiles can shot down a F-35 that's why Israel is lobbying France to not sell us Meteor missile. I hope we will get it. For me, if we are contracting the F-15 deal we must buy 50 MIG-29M/M2 with BVR capabilities, to have Meteor missile on our Rafale fleet and maybe we will solve the problem of the Israelis F-16, F-15 and F-35.

They have 83 F-15s in total and 224 F-16s all with the Aim-120-D and soon the Aim-260 at least on their 50 to 75 F-35..

 

[The SC]

I don't think that Egypt will buy them. Not anything against Pakistan but if we are buying more UCAV drones from Pakistan I want more of Wing Long 1D or even Wing Long 2 since we have in large quantity in our Air Force inventory.

Egypt wants as much UAV ToT as it can get..

 

[Ghostkiller]

Sadly we didn't qualify to World Cup 2022 in Qatar . F*ck football hahahaha

 

[sami_1]

The reason for stopping the supply of additional defenses from the Mirage-2000 plane was due to the sale of the American F-16 planes through military aid for free. At the same time, Egypt obtained additional numbers of MIRAGE-5 planes from Congo, along with 6 used planes from France, and the same matter was compensated for the F-4E planes. By supplying replacement preparations for what fell during training to maintain the capacity of two squadrons at the time

The United States only learns the hard ways in dealing with countries
In 1998, Egypt threatened to cancel the completion of the M1A1 tank production program and go to the Korean K1A1 tank.

In November 2013, the United States offered Egypt to supply all the equipment that it had previously refused in exchange for stopping military relations with Russia. The Americans did not understand that the matter was planned by the Egyptians to introduce Russian and European weapons to protect Egyptian national security.
Therefore, the Americans did not strongly object to the Egyptian policy, because their prejudices are of no value and will not be commended

Egypt did not stop the ballistic missile programs with China and North Korea for just one day. Giving reassurances to the Americans did not sing of hunger. What was stopped from programs with the Europeans was replaced by North Korea, China and Russia. Rather, when the West began imposing armament restrictions in 2011, it was a golden opportunity for Egypt to develop its missile capabilities. Ballistic in strategic deals with China

We come to an important point. There is a Russian and Chinese conflict against America
The Russians and the Chinese will inevitably drop the US Dollar from their throne, and the Americans want to bring allies to them and strengthen their relationship with them, not with a system of hollow threats that are priceless and indispensable from hunger.

America is fleeing from the Middle East and wants to hand over the security of the region to other countries, and it is using Iran as a tool to threaten the Gulf, and to reassure the Gulf, it presents to the Gulf and Egypt an offer

Providing Egypt with F-15EX planes with Gulf financing from the high oil price difference. The missions of the F-15EX planes will be to secure the Egyptian water sources, but rather to focus them in benishanjoual gomez , which will be liberated. In benishanjoual gomez, which will return to Sudan because Ethiopia has violated the 1902 agreement related to water and borders,

The second important thing for the F-15EX aircraft will be the Gulf support against Iran to provide armed integration between Egypt and the Gulf states
most important point

There is no connection between the Egyptian SU-35 deal and the American offer of F-15 planes. Some believe that the Egyptian F-15EX deal will be in favor of carrying out hostilities in the Gulf and Ethiopia, and the Gulf financing is entirely under American sponsorship. Egypt will not abandon the SU-35, but rather the Americans dream that Egypt will stop requesting another batch. In exchange for supplying the F-15EX to Egypt

Egypt’s F-16 upgrade programs and even the supply of the Aim-120 are not prohibited, but what is hindered by the cost. Simply the AIM-120D missile supplied by America at a price of 2 million dollars, which is an astronomical number. The Chinese PL-15E missile does not exceed half a million dollars. The R-77M missile does not exceed 800 thousand dollars. Egypt can get it at a lower price than Russia, on Russian terms

A question arises: the MIG-35 or the J-10C, at a price of 40 million dollars, or the development of an Egyptian F-16, Block 40, production in 1995, with a development at a cost of 25 million dollars, bought new, higher-performance F-16V aircraft, with low and limited armament

It has become essential. It is impossible for Egypt to pay a penny for American weapons that America restricts Egypt’s use of. Therefore, the main fighters and weapons must be the American component at a minimum so that we do not fall under a ban on any component or armament.


There are matters related to the eastern and western international conflict

RUSSIA offers Egypt a T-90MS tank, at a price of 2.5 million dollars, by buying it in Russian rubles without commission Rosoboronexport

The same thing is the purchase of Russian products in rubles and the Egyptian pound in commercial transactions, which cost half the declared international price

In the context of this war, America wants Egypt not to deepen its cooperation with the Russians

Egypt's interest is not hostility to the Russians or dependence on the Americans and the existence of currencies as an alternative to the worthless dollar. The one who makes the dollar a price is the Gulf countries that sell oil in dollars, and it is not covered with gold, any value depends on American hegemony and bullying and not the value of American production. America owes a huge amount and has a trade deficit with China and Southeast Asian Countries

Egypt helped the Americans strongly. For example, Egypt bought 12 C-130J planes at a price of 2.2 billion dollars, which is an astronomical price. Its value is equivalent to buying 12 Il-76MD-90A planes + 12 BE-200E planes at the less price, ( 12*150 = 1800 12*40 = 480 Total 2280 Additional discount applied only to Egypt and China 10% The price will be 228, so the transaction value will be 2052 million dollars ) so it is natural for Egypt to lose in this deal.

The same story, the same USAF in 2023 will buy 24 F-15EX planes at a price of 2.7 billion dollars, while if 24 planes are sold to Egypt, the price will not be less than 5.5 billion dollars. for 40 F-15EX will cost egypt minmum 10 Billion USD

Indonesia offers 36 F-15 for 13 billion dollars, you are destroying your economy as a country and losing to the Americans​

That is, it rejects economic cooperation with the Russians and the Chinese in their national currencies, which will save Egypt 25 billion dollars, which is the volume of trade exchange with the Russians and the Chinese for the benefit of the Americans.
Therefore, America is manipulating with Egypt on the issue of GERD. It accepts the destruction of Ethiopia, which allied itself with China and Russia, and threatens Egypt, so it leaves Egypt to cut it off in exchange for an alliance with it until Ethiopia becomes an example for those who oppose America.

Therefore, the story of American threats or America's temptation to cancel the SU-35 deal is not acceptable to the Egyptian military entity by all means.

Things are more complicated than many imagine

Egypt has bought European weapons, including American components, since 2014, and America did not object. At the same time, the Russians offered Egypt a huge package of military cooperation programs, including the development of new weapons, not production licenses.
Replacing old Egyptian products with newer Russian products, such as replacing the Fahd armored vehicle with a newer Russian armored vehicle, and modern transport vehicles produced instead of the ural-4320 vehicles.

Egypt has already chosen the American alternative and lost many years. It was possible to produce Russian products that have advantages over the American ones, since the Egyptian self-development without any restrictions or restrictions on the volume of production

Things are, as it turns out, much more complicated than an American approval of the Egyptian armament requirements. America wants to preserve the dollar and create a series of new alliances against the Russians and Chinese, and many are trying to exploit this matter now. Therefore, Egypt must be a winner, not by buying weapons, but by obtaining advanced technologies as well as investing to develop the Egyptian economy. There is nothing in the world that is free, and Egypt's interests are more important than America, Russia and China

 

[Hydration]

if u havent watched it yet reccomend you do

 

[joker88]

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The reason for stopping the supply of additional defenses from the Mirage-2000 plane was due to the sale of the American F-16 planes through military aid for free. At the same time, Egypt obtained additional numbers of MIRAGE-5 planes from Congo, along with 6 used planes from France, and the same matter was compensated for the F-4E planes. By supplying replacement preparations for what fell during training to maintain the capacity of two squadrons at the time

The United States only learns the hard ways in dealing with countries
In 1998, Egypt threatened to cancel the completion of the M1A1 tank production program and go to the Korean K1A1 tank.

In November 2013, the United States offered Egypt to supply all the equipment that it had previously refused in exchange for stopping military relations with Russia. The Americans did not understand that the matter was planned by the Egyptians to introduce Russian and European weapons to protect Egyptian national security.
Therefore, the Americans did not strongly object to the Egyptian policy, because their prejudices are of no value and will not be commended

Egypt did not stop the ballistic missile programs with China and North Korea for just one day. Giving reassurances to the Americans did not sing of hunger. What was stopped from programs with the Europeans was replaced by North Korea, China and Russia. Rather, when the West began imposing armament restrictions in 2011, it was a golden opportunity for Egypt to develop its missile capabilities. Ballistic in strategic deals with China

We come to an important point. There is a Russian and Chinese conflict against America
The Russians and the Chinese will inevitably drop the US Dollar from their throne, and the Americans want to bring allies to them and strengthen their relationship with them, not with a system of hollow threats that are priceless and indispensable from hunger.

America is fleeing from the Middle East and wants to hand over the security of the region to other countries, and it is using Iran as a tool to threaten the Gulf, and to reassure the Gulf, it presents to the Gulf and Egypt an offer

Providing Egypt with F-15EX planes with Gulf financing from the high oil price difference. The missions of the F-15EX planes will be to secure the Egyptian water sources, but rather to focus them in benishanjoual gomez , which will be liberated. In benishanjoual gomez, which will return to Sudan because Ethiopia has violated the 1902 agreement related to water and borders,

The second important thing for the F-15EX aircraft will be the Gulf support against Iran to provide armed integration between Egypt and the Gulf states
most important point
View attachment 828505
There is no connection between the Egyptian SU-35 deal and the American offer of F-15 planes. Some believe that the Egyptian F-15EX deal will be in favor of carrying out hostilities in the Gulf and Ethiopia, and the Gulf financing is entirely under American sponsorship. Egypt will not abandon the SU-35, but rather the Americans dream that Egypt will stop requesting another batch. In exchange for supplying the F-15EX to Egypt

Egypt’s F-16 upgrade programs and even the supply of the Aim-120 are not prohibited, but what is hindered by the cost. Simply the AIM-120D missile supplied by America at a price of 2 million dollars, which is an astronomical number. The Chinese PL-15E missile does not exceed half a million dollars. The R-77M missile does not exceed 800 thousand dollars. Egypt can get it at a lower price than Russia, on Russian terms

A question arises: the MIG-35 or the J-10C, at a price of 40 million dollars, or the development of an Egyptian F-16, Block 40, production in 1995, with a development at a cost of 25 million dollars, bought new, higher-performance F-16V aircraft, with low and limited armament

It has become essential. It is impossible for Egypt to pay a penny for American weapons that America restricts Egypt’s use of. Therefore, the main fighters and weapons must be the American component at a minimum so that we do not fall under a ban on any component or armament.


There are matters related to the eastern and western international conflict

RUSSIA offers Egypt a T-90MS tank, at a price of 2.5 million dollars, by buying it in Russian rubles without commission Rosoboronexport

The same thing is the purchase of Russian products in rubles and the Egyptian pound in commercial transactions, which cost half the declared international price

In the context of this war, America wants Egypt not to deepen its cooperation with the Russians

Egypt's interest is not hostility to the Russians or dependence on the Americans and the existence of currencies as an alternative to the worthless dollar. The one who makes the dollar a price is the Gulf countries that sell oil in dollars, and it is not covered with gold, any value depends on American hegemony and bullying and not the value of American production. America owes a huge amount and has a trade deficit with China and Southeast Asian Countries

Egypt helped the Americans strongly. For example, Egypt bought 12 C-130J planes at a price of 2.2 billion dollars, which is an astronomical price. Its value is equivalent to buying 12 Il-76MD-90A planes + 12 BE-200E planes at the less price, ( 12*150 = 1800 12*40 = 480 Total 2280 Additional discount applied only to Egypt and China 10% The price will be 228, so the transaction value will be 2052 million dollars ) so it is natural for Egypt to lose in this deal.

The same story, the same USAF in 2023 will buy 24 F-15EX planes at a price of 2.7 billion dollars, while if 24 planes are sold to Egypt, the price will not be less than 5.5 billion dollars. for 40 F-15EX will cost egypt minmum 10 Billion USD

Indonesia offers 36 F-15 for 13 billion dollars, you are destroying your economy as a country and losing to the Americans​

That is, it rejects economic cooperation with the Russians and the Chinese in their national currencies, which will save Egypt 25 billion dollars, which is the volume of trade exchange with the Russians and the Chinese for the benefit of the Americans.
Therefore, America is manipulating with Egypt on the issue of GERD. It accepts the destruction of Ethiopia, which allied itself with China and Russia, and threatens Egypt, so it leaves Egypt to cut it off in exchange for an alliance with it until Ethiopia becomes an example for those who oppose America.

Therefore, the story of American threats or America's temptation to cancel the SU-35 deal is not acceptable to the Egyptian military entity by all means.

Things are more complicated than many imagine
View attachment 828508
Egypt has bought European weapons, including American components, since 2014, and America did not object. At the same time, the Russians offered Egypt a huge package of military cooperation programs, including the development of new weapons, not production licenses.
Replacing old Egyptian products with newer Russian products, such as replacing the Fahd armored vehicle with a newer Russian armored vehicle, and modern transport vehicles produced instead of the ural-4320 vehicles.
View attachment 828509
Egypt has already chosen the American alternative and lost many years. It was possible to produce Russian products that have advantages over the American ones, since the Egyptian self-development without any restrictions or restrictions on the volume of production

Things are, as it turns out, much more complicated than an American approval of the Egyptian armament requirements. America wants to preserve the dollar and create a series of new alliances against the Russians and Chinese, and many are trying to exploit this matter now. Therefore, Egypt must be a winner, not by buying weapons, but by obtaining advanced technologies as well as investing to develop the Egyptian economy. There is nothing in the world that is free, and Egypt's interests are more important than America, Russia and China

Do you have an Arabic ID in any previous forum?

 

[The SC]

if u havent watched it yet reccomend you do

We have talked a lot about these pylon systems also called "Adapters" before.. you can be sure Egypt already has both of them..

 

[Hydration]

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