Gomig-21
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Yes, this goes back to the October War, actually.
That's what I'm telling Ramses (wow that sounded strange lmfao! Probably stranger if I said his whole name like I'm talking to a mummy ghost lololol), but Sa'ad Edin Al Shazly in his book said in his own words that he thought out of the entire air coalition, the Iraqi Hunters were the BEST performers, especially carrying out recon duties post cease fire. Several testaments to that from other sources as well. But when it comes from the Chief of Staff of the Egyptian military and who was responsible for setting up the crossing of the canal and much more, that holds its weight in gold!
There's a GREAT picture of a pair of Iraqi Hunters flying about 500 meters above the canal and right along it's path. I used to have it but lost it with my old computer and can't find it anymore. If anyone has that, please post it.
Anyway, even though the EAF performed sub-par during the early part of the war, but they spanked the Israelis silly over Mansoura in 1 hour on the 14th of October (which altered future operations for the israeli occupying air force as well as impact their further outlook of the EAF's capabilities post war and leading to this AMRAAM saga) as well as several winning engagement after that and towards the end of the war which is a huge part of Israel crapping its pants every time the EAF gets a new weapon and must keep the pressure on the US and anyone else they can get to against the supply of any AMRAAMs. Now that is fear! Hopefully those days are numbered.
And BTW, just to be clear, there was no dissing on my part towards Jordan on any level in that comment. I was just pointing out how the US sees things differently when I would've thought Jordan would also be on the list because of its proximity and the fact it hadn't made peace for nearly as long as Egypt, yet none of that stuff seems to matter to those jerks.
HUGE reason why Egypt was in a conundrum when they ended up forced to be part of the coalition to free Kuwait and participated with the 3rd Mechanized Division, the 4th Armored Division (which Tantawi was leading now that I remember), and with 35K men between both divisions, were originally positioned center north of the entire, armored attacking lineup, making their movements critical so as not to delay the entire formations behind them. Yet they kept delaying their advance and pretending not to understand central commands and made themselves look very incompetent. Funny because it makes you wonder if the Americans figured it out, that they were never going to shoot or kill a single Iraqi tank, soldier or personnel as per instruction by Mubarak himself. That was a horrible position for Egypt to be in even though Iraq has done some nasty stuff in Kuwait, we were still in debt from 1973 and couldn't do any killing of any kind. They handled their purposeful failure perfectly lmfao and ended up being the first to enter Kuwait as the liberators LOLOL!
