Egyptian Armed Forces

[Gomig-21]

Egyptian Navy Special Forces training with their SIG-516s.

This one straight up with the built-in sights.

This one with the help of a holographic sight and some frequent 3 burst shots in full auto.

 

[Mamajama]

Egyptian Navy Special Forces training with their SIG-516s.

This one straight up with the built-in sights.

This one with the help of a holographic sight and some frequent 3 burst shots in full auto.

The sights should be made in Egpyt, the magnifier is not very hard to make but the holographic sight is much more complex than a red dot for example.

 

[Lord Of Gondor]

The question is, would the Russian big birds have the boom? I know they have the drag chute baskets for aircraft with probes on them which would be the EAF Rafales, Mirage 2Ks, MiG-35s and Su-35s but the entire fleet of F-16s would require a boom and I'm not sure the Russians have that?

Those Rafale pictures are great but my favourite ones are still the ones with the Pyramids in the background.
The Refueller question is a tough one. My solution would be a KC-390 with a possible Boom.
Ideal solution (which even the IAF wants) is the A330 MRTT.

 

[Gomig-21]

The Russian/Chinese missiles on the F-16 would be very difficult. The MICA on the other hand should be more or less plug and play(especially the IR). The problem could be through the End User Monitoring Agreements if such a thing were to happen IMO.
If bipartisan support exists(I am certain it does) and Egypt is willing to lean on the congress a bit, then I think the F-16s can be upgraded very fast.
PAF was also in a similar quagmire but just one smart decision meant all pre Peace Drive F-16s got a comprehensive upgrade and bringing them more or less on par with the block 52+ jets.
Taiwan is another example.

Agreed on the MICAs as far as compatibility and ease of integration, especially with the linkage and specifically Link-16 that the EAF F-16s operate under along with the Rafales. So that would be perfectly fine and a great substitute for the AIM-120. The problem is that any of this type of integration would have to be done under tense circumstances since we're talking about doing it under sanctions from the US. I think that entire dynamic presents a daunting challenge since the French would have to agree to it and sort of bump off the US which is a very hard proposition IMO.

Hence why maybe the only two who would be willing to help with such a thing would be the Russians (also under sanctions from the US and them selling us the Su-35 is the primary reason we find ourselves under sanctions.....) and of course, China. The latter being the PRIMARY reason why the AIM-120 has been denied to Egypt along with the QME of Israel.

There's a rumor that back in the late 80s or early 90s I believe, the Egyptian authorities allowed a Chinese delegation to take a close look at one of our F-16s. Hillary Clinton was the one that was bouncing off the walls about that and made a HUUUUUUGEAH stink about it -- which I don't blame her one bit, of course -- only if there is any veracity to that rumor. I'm not sure what the EAF got in return for such a bold and frankly inexcusable act of treachery if indeed they did do that which is why I have some doubts that it did happen. Hence...also....the need and push to sign the CISMOA for non-disclosure to 3rd parties of sensitive and advanced US technologies. But the EAF should be trusted and should never indulge in anything of the sort no matter what the reward would be. But that's pretty much why it's been an almost impossible proposition to get those BVRAAMs from the US for the fleet of F-16s.

So if any sanctions are instilled on Egypt from the US because of the purchase of the Su-35 (which it has threatened to do.....) then Egypt will have no choice but to look for other ways to improve the lethality of the F-16 and what are the options, then? I think it will come down to the Chinese and the PL series of BVRAAMs.

It is going to be a lot harder to integrate air to air missiles than it will bombs and radiation missiles. China offers a solution Egypt could use.

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Yep, that might really be the ONLY option. However, the EAF's F-16s are not short of air to ground munitions but you made me think that with the possibility of sanctions looming greatly, the US will stop all support and supplying of F-16 munitions including air to ground weapons! So those will also need a solution also, you are 100% right, Mamajamalama!

 

[Gomig-21]

Those Rafale pictures are great but my favourite ones are still the ones with the Pyramids in the background.
The Refueller question is a tough one. My solution would be a KC-390 with a possible Boom.
Ideal solution (which even the IAF wants) is the A330 MRTT.

Ah yes, pyramid backgrounds are always popular, lol. But the high res of those is what I like about them. It's really incredible all the little gadgets sticking out of that little jet. The SPECTRA sensors are really something and around the front fuselage with all the little antennas and booms is crazy. The "plank" on the V-stab with its sensors (I'm guessing MAWS and maybe some other sensors). And then there's that weird, black cover on the base of the back of the V-stab which I can only assume is simply a protective, anti-heat plate to guard against the intense flames and temperature coming out of the exhaust. They seem to have thought of everything!

 

[Gomig-21]

The sights should be made in Egpyt, the magnifier is not very hard to make but the holographic sight is much more complex than a red dot for example.

Agreed. Seems like we're seeing a lot of stuff being being made in Egypt, now, especially all these rifle accessories that we've been seeing in the previous pages. EDEX has really opened the doors for a lot of these items to be seen by the outside world. Same with things like those RIBs.

There's also an indigenous IFV that just came out. I'll try to get some info on it.

 

[Gomig-21]

Heck of a picture of an EN Gowind being escorted by a couple of EN fast patrol boats. I think the ships in single file are US ships entering or exiting the Suez Canal in the Gulf of Suez, but not sure. That's a lot of big boats in line. Anyone know the details please chime in.

 

[Mamajama]

Agreed. Seems like we're seeing a lot of stuff being being made in Egypt, now, especially all these rifle accessories that we've been seeing in the previous pages. EDEX has really opened the doors for a lot of these items to be seen by the outside world. Same with things like those RIBs.

There's also an indigenous IFV that just came out. I'll try to get some info on it.

I say that Egypt can be a nation producing a lot of ammunition, and arms for the African market as well as vehicle, and radar production. Basically Egypt can be a huge market but needs to produce it's own engines and other complex equipment to compete fully against suppliers that actually can produce all these things.

 

[BON PLAN]

What is this? Headquarters of Arab Nato?

If you want me to answer to other topics, ask to give me back my privilege.... for exemple in this topic : https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/t-12...copter-programs.209736/page-245#post-12685873

It's too easy to remove the possibility to answer to a guy that don't say exactly what all the others think....

 

[The SC]

Heck of a picture of an EN Gowind being escorted by a couple of EN fast patrol boats. I think the ships in single file are US ships entering or exiting the Suez Canal in the Gulf of Suez, but not sure. That's a lot of big boats in line. Anyone know the details please chime in.

The first 4 look like the Egyptian Oliver Hazard Perry class
Here they are in bab El mandeb wit Saudi frigates in the back

Hope Egypt will keep them for a long time still...

*** On July 14, 2016, the ex-USS Thach took over 12 hours to sink after being used in a live-fire, SINKEX during naval exercise RIMPAC 2016. During the exercise, the ship was directly or indirectly hit with the following ordnance: a Harpoon missile from a South Korean submarine, another Harpoon missile from the Australian frigate HMAS Ballarat, a Hellfire missile from an Australian MH-60R helicopter, another Harpoon missile and a Maverick missile from US maritime patrol aircraft, another Harpoon missile from the cruiser USS Princeton, additional Hellfire missiles from an US Navy MH-60S helicopter, a 900 kg (2,000 lb) Mark 84 bomb from a US Navy F/A-18 Hornet, a GBU-12 Paveway laser-guided 225 kg (500 lb) bomb from a US Air Force B-52 bomber, and a Mark 48 torpedo from an unnamed US Navy submarine..

 

[ARCH٤R]

Squeezed this

 

[Gomig-21]

The first 4 look like the Egyptian Oliver Hazard Perry class
Here they are in bab El mandeb wit Saudi frigates in the back

Hope Egypt will keep them for a long time still...

*** On July 14, 2016, the ex-USS Thach took over 12 hours to sink after being used in a live-fire, SINKEX during naval exercise RIMPAC 2016. During the exercise, the ship was directly or indirectly hit with the following ordnance: a Harpoon missile from a South Korean submarine, another Harpoon missile from the Australian frigate HMAS Ballarat, a Hellfire missile from an Australian MH-60R helicopter, another Harpoon missile and a Maverick missile from US maritime patrol aircraft, another Harpoon missile from the cruiser USS Princeton, additional Hellfire missiles from an US Navy MH-60S helicopter, a 900 kg (2,000 lb) Mark 84 bomb from a US Navy F/A-18 Hornet, a GBU-12 Paveway laser-guided 225 kg (500 lb) bomb from a US Air Force B-52 bomber, and a Mark 48 torpedo from an unnamed US Navy submarine..

Very cool, thanks bro. I thought they might be a few of the EN Olivers but definitely some others too because that is a lot of ships and the Gowind on the side out of line indicated that it was not necessarily a participant but an observer/escort.

Check this out, saw it the other day and how about rare? An old Libyan Antonov An-124 Air Cargo. One of two that were part of Libya's transport during Qadafi's time, This one I believe was blown up during the start of hostilities and the other one was barely taken out in time and flown to the Antonov headquarters in the Ukraine and supposedly it's still there. Too bad the EAF didn't get a hold of this bad Larry.

 

[Mamajama]

@Gomig-21@The SC
I found something interesting talking to philip on Instagram, egypt developed subsystem for satellite which is the camera. Philip and I went over this and it seems very promising for the egyptian industry. It specifications are similar to the one used in in the uae khalifaSat. It may be useful for egyptian, african, and arab satellite programs.

Designing and manufacturing a multi-purpose camera, with an imaging resolution of 2.5 meters, up to 800 kilometers, indicating that large cameras weighing more than 20 kilometers are installed on the big satellites.

 

[Avicenna]

@Gomig-21 I have nothing against Egypt or Egyptians bro.

 

[The SC]

@Gomig-21@The SC
I found something interesting talking to philip on Instagram, egypt developed subsystem for satellite which is the camera. Philip and I went over this and it seems very promising for the egyptian industry. It specifications are similar to the one used in in the uae khalifaSat. It may be useful for egyptian, african, and arab satellite programs.

Designing and manufacturing a multi-purpose camera, with an imaging resolution of 2.5 meters, up to 800 kilometers, indicating that large cameras weighing more than 20 kilometers are installed on the big satellites.

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