It is more likely an indication and proof of the start to manufacture the SU-35 for the EAF.. but your thoughts are worth meditating on..I wonder what they meant about this...
A document published by the official website of the Russian government contracts and tenders revealed a tender related to the contract to supply some electrical connections and cables that will enter the manufacture of a new weapon for Egypt.
Mmmmm......are they talking about an Egyptian developed weapon that they want to be able to fire off the Su-35 or a new Russian weapon? That's about as vague as can be. I'm leaning to the former or something that will allow them to fire some current missiles in the EAF inventory or maybe they're referring to the Kh-59MK2 most likely. I doubt they'll maintain the 550 km range one but rather the export ones at 330. But who checks anyway? Time to make our own missiles.
The Russians are late to the game on the SP jammers. IAF fighters have been using Israeli Elta E-8222 SPJ for a long time now.
Su-30s, Jaguars, MiG-27s, Sea Harriers and even MiG-29s were integrated with this pod earlier. But they never bought enough of these Elta 8222 pods to equip all fighters fleet wide.
Here's a MiG-21 Bison with an Elta 8222 SPJ.
MiG-27 with the Elta 8222 SPJ pod
Tejas Mk1A will likely use the Elta E-8222WB wide band self protection and jamming pod. It is even smaller and lighter than the Russian one and also uses DRFM. My expectation is that we'll see these Elta 8222 WB SPJs making their way back to the Tejas Mk1 fleet as well.
(just messing with you) or they weren't using them on that one, unfortunate MiG-21. If they actually perform as advertised, then you would think that every single jet would be equipped with one whenever conducting relatively dangerous missions.It is more likely an indication and proof of the start to manufacture the SU-35 for the EAF.. but your thoughts are worth meditating on..
HaHa.. that is a good one .. who checks anyway..I thought about it many times.. and in case of use in war ..it will be too late to check or cry about it.. but we should assume it is just 300km range and start making own cruise missiles that we can control the range and payload.. a 1000 km range is even better than 550 km..
I can only guess there is a combined work in progress between many Arab countries where everyone is trying to get a piece or two with ToT.. to make whole weapon systems in the near future..
In the case of the Egyptian ballistic missiles as the Condor.. all it was missing were precise guidance technologies and some carbon-carbon body parts for re-entry.. all of which are available now for years in the Arab world.. It is the same with cruise missiles.. it is only a matter of the right time to announce them.. for now still playing the poor guy to get the most possible..
And even dropping a Rafale and getting its Spectra and other tech to duplicate or build on it for the future.. is not a strange thought to me..only the future will tell.. as many countries built their cruise missiles on American ones lost or downed in Afghanistan and elsewhere..Or Iran with its America most sophisticated drones that it hacked and landed in their country to make 100s of them..It is a world of opportunities.. and Arabs don't usually miss good opportunities ..be it covert or overt..
Do we know if this Israeli system was hooked up to the Bison that was shot down on the border or not? You would think that the IAF would mount them on any aircraft flying close missions to conflict zones where there's a strong chance of being fired on with either an A2A or even a G2A missile. If it was wearing one, then that Israeli crap failed
Few media outlets reported that Su-30MKI did detect J-20's flying over Tibet. There is a probability the J-20 might not be in fully stealth mode. They might be carrying external fuel tanks or any other device fitted on the ventral side which gives out a larger signature.
Western media always claimed their platforms to be far superior to Russian counterparts. They also took a dig at Su-57 stating it's RCS to be much higher than claimed. Chinese are new to the fighter jet game, most of their J-series are blatant rip-offs of Russian flankers. While J-20 still might be a good aircraft, I doubt it exceeds the Su-57 in terms of stealth
The EAF has quite the history with the MiG-21 and that fighter jet's first air to air kill was by an EAF MiG-21 in early 1967 I believe. I had posted the story here on this thread a while back.
The worthiness of the AESA radars is that they make the fighter less visible when using its radar..Oh I'm a big fan, believe me. Just look at my username!
That was the first thing I thought of after reading Zapper's post, was that it might've been very possible that the J-20s were wearing luneberg lenses as they often do and we see a lot of pics with them on. Definitely very plausible.
The interesting difference I notice between all the photos and comparisons we're seeing between the J-20 and the Su-57 is the former wearing the Luneberg lenses quite often in many of the photographs, while I don't think there is a single photo of the Su-57 with such a device mounted on it. I find that pretty interesting and how the Chinese have practically duplicated much of the US stealth designs so fast and even the method to increase the RCS!!! Crazy.
The reason I had asked you guys about that event is that it just supports the credibility of these Russian-built radars and how powerful they are. The BARS being in the Indian Su-30MKIs and the IRBIS intended in the eventual EAF Su-35s seem to be very capable radars and then some. And looking at the EAF's MiG-29M/35s have the same radars as the Indian MiG-29Ks (and UPGs I believe?) in the Zhuk-ME which is also a VERY sound and capable radar. The difference between them and their eventual AESA version seems somewhat negligible in the added range as well as the added number of detected and prioritized targets. It just doesn't seem like a huge and worthy upgrade. Good stuff.
Yes true.. and I was commenting only on one aspect..
I know Garmin is amazing.. I had a GPS watch from them about 10-15 years ago..and I could find my position precisely on any map..and also see the satellite positions..maybe they had a nano-radar on it.. lol..I would give its chirping abilities as its biggest advantage in that it's harder to jam since it changes frequencies with every pulse which makes it very difficult to track and jam if it's bouncing around frequencies.
BTW, I think both the BARS and the IRBIS-E radars display air to air & air to sea as well as air to air & air to land simultaneously if I'm not mistaken. I might have to check on that but I could've sworn reading it somewhere.
I got a fun radar story for you. When I was shopping for a new GPS to augment the older one on the boat, I decided to go with a Garmin package deal that included the 18 inch radome. For the first year or so, I didn't really use it that much because the GPS has so many new features to get used to and what I was more concerned with learning was setting waypoints and learning dangerous depth areas and even managing certain engine features.
Now we could go out at nighttime and it made a huge difference with feeling safe as that thing picks up items like you wouldn't believe it. And it's very accurate, to boot.
But after I got used to using it for nighttime outings and during heavy fog, I realized that it was much more valuable to just leave on all the time and overlay it on the navigation map. By doing that, I got one of the best spots ever which was one day last summer, I decided to go a bit offshore by myself to a marine sanctuary that is about 70 miles from Boston called Stellwagon Bank. It's basically a plateau that stays at around 100ft or so and because of that constant depth, it attracts a lot of very cool marine life from all sorts of sharks, to tuna to rays, turtles and mostly known for this area is whales. Lots of humpback wales and that one day, I'm blasting out that way with my rods ready to go.
i get past the beginning of the sanctuary and I see schools of fish on my fishfinder and so I stop and get ready to throw a couple of lines out and what do I see on the screen? Now remember I have my radar overlayed on the navigation screen but check out that long, red shape between the 262 depth demarcation line and the + sing on the touch screen in the top right corner. See that longish, red shape? That was a whale that was just below the surface! When I took that picture of the screen, I noticed that thing and so I looked in that direction and the thing surfaces for a second, blows out air from its blow hole and dives back down and I'm freaking out trying to get a pic of it when it resurfaces but it never does. I was out in the middle of nowhere and never ended up catching anything because I was just too busy looking for that thing to resurface lol. But that just goes to show you how incredible that radar is that it picked up the whale just below the surface right before it came up and you can even see the outline and the tail, but not the pectoral fins probably because they're deeper. I wish I had a better pic.
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