Egyptian Armed Forces

[Gomig-21]

Yes, and then you look at the rest of the page and you see the individual ships of this class produced and none of them ended up in Egyptian service .....

Yep, it definitely wasn't exported to Egypt in the exact sense of the term, but possibly found its way via other means, most notably from our close neighbor to the west as in many of their Mirages also found their way to Egypt in the 70's. Some other systems under the cloak of secrecy and this might've been one of those. There was quite a few of these types of transactions preceding, during and following the war in 1973. But I tend to agree with you that it more likely wasn't the case.

 

[Penguin]

This is the LYBIAN ship Al Gorthabiyah (213)
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[Amir_Pharaoh]

This is the LYBIAN ship Al Gorthabiyah (213)
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No it is not!
This photo was taken back in 2005 before 2011 turmoil
http://www.maltashipphotos.com/productfile.asp?ProductID1=5888&PRODUCTCAT1=Yachts
This was taken back in 2012

http://www.maltashipphotos.com/productfile.asp?ProductID1=7480&PRODUCTCAT1=Yachts

This shouldn't be something to debate about!
It's a damn FRIGATE!! that's been in service since the 90s! with many photos and videos to the whole world to see.

 

[Penguin]

Yep, it definitely wasn't exported to Egypt in the exact sense of the term, but possibly found its way via other means, most notably from our close neighbor to the west as in many of their Mirages also found their way to Egypt in the 70's. Some other systems under the cloak of secrecy and this might've been one of those. There was quite a few of these types of transactions preceding, during and following the war in 1973. But I tend to agree with you that it more likely wasn't the case.

All Koni class / Project 1159 were commissioned 1975-1987. They are all accounted for, including the exports. None went 'missing'.

No it is not!
This photo was taken back in 2005 before 2011 turmoil
http://www.maltashipphotos.com/productfile.asp?ProductID1=5888&PRODUCTCAT1=Yachts
This was taken back in 2012

http://www.maltashipphotos.com/productfile.asp?ProductID1=7480&PRODUCTCAT1=Yachts

Then, it is the Lybian Al Hani (212). Note the pennant number of the ship on the pic originally posted!
Al Ghardabia 213 (till 24.10.1987 SKR-195) was sunk 9.08.2011 by a British combat aircraft in Tripoli. Not Al Hani.

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1905279
http://www.maltashipphotos.com/productfile.asp?ProductID1=9814&PRODUCTCAT1=Corvettes

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This shouldn't be something to debate about!
It's a damn FRIGATE!! that's been in service since the 90s! with many photos and videos to the whole world to see.

Who's talking about the ex-US Knox class ships?

 

[Gomig-21]

All Koni class / Project 1159 were commissioned 1975-1987. They are all accounted for, including the exports. None went 'missing'.

The 1973 reference was just an example of the Mirages and was not intended to suggest that that particular frigate found its way to Egypt exactly that year, nor that any went missing. Either way, the same Wiki link you posted shows it and if it's inaccurate, that's perfectly fine. Not worth banging heads over it.

 

[The SC]

Egypt's future Navy..

 

[Amir_Pharaoh]

All Koni class / Project 1159 were commissioned 1975-1987. They are all accounted for, including the exports. None went 'missing'.


Then, it is the Lybian Al Hani (212). Note the pennant number of the ship on the pic originally posted!
Al Ghardabia 213 (till 24.10.1987 SKR-195) was sunk 9.08.2011 by a British combat aircraft in Tripoli. Not Al Hani.

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1905279
http://www.maltashipphotos.com/productfile.asp?ProductID1=9814&PRODUCTCAT1=Corvettes


Who's talking about the ex-US Knox class ships?

Oops I feel bad!
I don't know how I confused Knox with Koni ?!
Still ..

Egy Navy ..
I was the one who took this still! It was aired on Egypt's ch1 back in 2012.
Egypt did purchase two along with * Sava sub from Serbia.

Another source!

 

[Nile-Tiger]

I have read it many times (in English and Arabic) that Egypt operates/operated a couple of KONI class frigates... but not everyone mentions or count them... In a thread about the Egyptian navy in Arabic-Military website, it is written that Egypt bought 2 Koni class frigate from Serbia...

Did Egypt really bought Sava submarine ? Or any other Submarines, other than the 4 Romeo class submarines ? (Not talking about the recent German Dolphin submarines ofcourse... I mean in the 80s or 90s)

 

[Gomig-21]

 

[Penguin]

Oops I feel bad!
I don't know how I confused Knox with Koni ?!
Still ..

Egy Navy ..
I was the one who took this still! It was aired on Egypt's ch1 back in 2012.
Egypt did purchase two along with * Sava sub from Serbia.

The subtype of koni is consistent with Lybian ships and the pennant number on the bow is 212, which is Al Hani. The Egyptian navy does not have any pennant numbers in this range (all larger ships have a 9## number)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ships_of_the_Egyptian_Navy

As for Sava's again no such submarines were ever exported by Yugoslavia and only two were built (both of which were scrapped).

I have read it many times (in English and Arabic) that Egypt operates/operated a couple of KONI class frigates... but not everyone mentions or count them... In a thread about the Egyptian navy in Arabic-Military website, it is written that Egypt bought 2 Koni class frigate from Serbia...

Did Egypt really bought Sava submarine ? Or any other Submarines, other than the 4 Romeo class submarines ? (Not talking about the recent German Dolphin submarines ofcourse... I mean in the 80s or 90s)

Yugoslavia had only two Koni's. Both were scrapped.

Sokol:
January 1978 21 April 1979 30 November 1979 to Yugoslavia as Split, later to Serbia & Montenegro, scrapped 2013

SKR-481:
25 December 1979 24 December 1981 30 September 1982 to Yugoslavia as Koper, scrapped 1998

Around or before the Chinese Romeo's Egypt negotiated for a pair of ex-RN Oberon class submarines but the deal never materialized. No Sava's were ever in Egyptian naval service.

 

[Gomig-21]

 

[The SC]

That is why the new Mig-35s need their bigger brothers the SU-35s too..
Beautiful pics from nice exercises..

 

[Gomig-21]

That is why the new Mig-35s need their bigger brothers the SU-35s too..
Beautiful pics from nice exercises..

Your post reminded me of something: There's an interesting commonality/connection in what you just said that exists and applies to the F-16, F-15, Egypt & Saudiya.

The Peregrine falcon was a revered animal and a renowned god to the ancient Egyptians in Horus. He was also a peregrine falcon you can see his resembling cheek markings in this depiction. (connection 1)

The peregrine falcon is very special and admired in Saudiya with the many many falconers there that raise them and fly them and hunt them. Very popular in Saudiya and several other GCC states. (connection 2)

King Abdullah was an avid falconer who flew peregrines.

The peregrine falcon is also one of a few raptor species where sexual dimorphism exists. That is the very noticeable size difference between the larger female and the 1/3 smaller male, as seen clearly in this adult pair. (Connection #3)

Both of these creatures are the fastest living animals on the face of the earth and both are deadly aerial killers, much like the larger Saudi F-15 and the smaller Egyptian F-16. (Connection #4!)

 

[The SC]

Your post reminded me of something: There's an interesting commonality/connection in what you just said that exists and applies to the F-16, F-15, Egypt & Saudiya.

The Peregrine falcon was a revered animal and a renowned god to the ancient Egyptians in Horus. He was also a peregrine falcon you can see his resembling cheek markings in this depiction. (connection 1)

The peregrine falcon is very special and admired in Saudiya with the many many falconers there that raise them and fly them and hunt them. Very popular in Saudiya and several other GCC states. (connection 2)

King Abdullah was an avid falconer who flew peregrines.

The peregrine falcon is also one of a few raptor species where sexual dimorphism exists. That is the very noticeable size difference between the larger female and the 1/3 smaller male, as seen clearly in this adult pair. (Connection #3)

Both of these creatures are the fastest living animals on the face of the earth and both are deadly aerial killers, much like the larger Saudi F-15 and the smaller Egyptian F-16. (Connection #4!)

Couldn't have found a better example.. very well thought of..
That beauty is very protective of that archer..
Let me correct myself then:
That is why the new Mig-35s need their bigger _sisters, mothers, wives, girlfriends_ the SU-35s too..

 

[Gomig-21]

New pic of an EGY Alligator in Russia prior to shipping to Egypt.