Egypt | Army Ousts Mursi govt, violence erupts | News & Discussions

[Mahmoud_EGY]

 

[BlueWarrior]

Can you translate the sign? These are all from Turkey. I think the hand 4 represent the massacre? A lot of 4 hand sign circulating around social sites. How will it affect between Turkish government and Egypt's military installed government relationship?

 

[iranigirl2]

Meanwhile, the New York Times reports that Israel actually encouraged the Egyptian coup:


The Israelis, whose military had close ties to General Sisi from his former post as head of military intelligence, were supporting the takeover as well. Western diplomats say that General Sisi and his circle appeared to be in heavy communication with Israeli colleagues, and the diplomats believed the Israelis were also undercutting the Western message by reassuring the Egyptians not to worry about American threats to cut off aid.

In other words, the Israeli government told General Sisi to go ahead and overthrow the government because you can count on our lobby, AIPAC to ensure that you get the annual $1.5 billion anyway.

And that exactly what is happening.

In the name of Israeli-Egyptian peace, Israel is supporting mass slaughter in Egypt and making sure America does too. And none of this is a surprise.


AIPAC Letter to Congress: Don’t You Dare Cut Aid To The Egyptian Junta | MJ Rosenberg

 

[Mozambique Drill]

Meanwhile, the New York Times reports that Israel actually encouraged the Egyptian coup:


The Israelis, whose military had close ties to General Sisi from his former post as head of military intelligence, were supporting the takeover as well. Western diplomats say that General Sisi and his circle appeared to be in heavy communication with Israeli colleagues, and the diplomats believed the Israelis were also undercutting the Western message by reassuring the Egyptians not to worry about American threats to cut off aid.

In other words, the Israeli government told General Sisi to go ahead and overthrow the government because you can count on our lobby, AIPAC to ensure that you get the annual $1.5 billion anyway.

And that exactly what is happening.

In the name of Israeli-Egyptian peace, Israel is supporting mass slaughter in Egypt and making sure America does too. And none of this is a surprise.

A desperate attempt to link Israel to this from a man pretending to be a woman on the internet.

Israel actually had better relations with Egypt under Morsi than they did under Mubarak. More Hamas tunnels were destroyed and more communication between the two security establishments.

Secondly, even if Israel has quietly supported Sisi, it's still Egyptians that have turned their guns on their own. They have pulled the trigger.

As can be seen by the EU/US and UN statements, the Egyptians are ignoring international calls - yet the Iraniboy thinks Israel controls Egypt.

You're a rafidi trying to cause even more divisions than your pariah terrorist state of Iran has already caused in the region.

The audacity of an Iranian talking about interfering when the pariah Iranian state is involved in destabilising a whole host of Arab nations.

Also, your link points to a blog and not the NYtimes.

 

[Abdaali]

o Allah save our brothers and sisters from the evil of yahoods(jews), Nasara(christian) and Monafiqin in Egypt.

Amin

 

[iranigirl2]

Egyptian turmoil erupts into bloody violence

http://video.msnbc.********/up/52779974#52779974

 

[ELTurco]

Can you translate the sign? These are all from Turkey. I think the hand 4 represent the massacre? A lot of 4 hand sign circulating around social sites.

The banner ''salute to Morsi, hail the resistance''.

The hand sign is called Rabia sign, i have no idea about its meaning.

How will it affect between Turkish government and Egypt's military installed government relationship?

Already Turkey does not recognise the illegitimate junta as government.


http://www.trt.net.tr/trtworld/en/newsDetail.aspx?HaberKodu=3d6560cd-9c79-4085-96e6-a79df8054542



ERDOĞAN BLAMES EGYPT JUNTA WITH STATE TERRORISM


Turkish PM Erdoğan strongly condemned government in Egypt and "all attacks targeting places of worship, no matter it is a mosque or a church, since they are sacred"

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said on Saturday that it is a state terrorism that is being carried out in Egypt.

Speaking at the "Ceremony of Urban Transformation" in Bursa, Turkish PM Erdogan reiterated his condemnation of military coup and the recent attacks on religious sites in Egypt.

"I strongly condemn all attacks targeting places of worship, no matter if it is a mosque or a church, since they are protected [sacred]," he told the crowd in Bursa.

Erdogan described as "brutal murderers" the perpetrators of the military coup and crackdown on peaceful protesters taking streets and squares in demand of democracy and asking for the return and "honour" of their votes as the Egyptian Army ousted the first democratically elected President of Egypt Mohamed Morsi on July 3.

"Those who staged the coup ignored the will of the people, and brutally killed their own citizens. State terrorism is being carried out in Egypt." added Turkish PM.

He also compared Syria's Assad and Egypt's Sisi, arguing that "Bashar (al-Assad) and al-Sisi are the same, and so are those who support them. There is no difference."

Erdogan stated that there are two different pictures of Egypt, as supporters and opponents of democracy.

"There are two scenes in Egypt; one is of those who follow the pharaoh, and the other is of those who follow Moses," he said.

Turkish Premier added "This is how history will evaluate the happenings in Egypt."

Erdogan slammed the international community failing to display the necessary stance and reaction against the military coup in Egypt and the following violence and crackdown by the Egyptian army on pro-Morsi demonstrators in Cairo.

"Those who stand silent in the face of the coup in Egypt will not be able to preach democracy in the future," he argued.

"The Security Council, the European Union and the Organization of Islamic Cooperation are too ashamed to face themselves looking into the mirror for their attitude in the face of the military coup in Egypt and the following massacres on the Egypt's peaceful protesters. Those who remain silent, approve and encourage the massacre with their silence while the Egyptian coup authorities, who poured bullets on the people demanding justice, are stuck in that blood so as not to face their conscience," Turkish PM Erdogan said regarding international stance on the military coup and the violent crackdown on anti-coup demonstrators.

Turkish PM repeated his critic of some states immediately providing the coup regime of Egypt that mounted the military coup with billions of financial aid, saying "Some poured aid of 16 billion dollars to the coup regime of Egypt after the military coup. In my opinion, those supporting the coup regime with 16 billion dollars are the partners of the coup regime in Egypt."

"I invite those who attack places of worship to act sensibly, and I'm calling on all sides. But look at the game that's being played: The Muslim Brotherhood is trying to protect churches and the media - remember the 'Gezi' media in Turkey and around the world? - that's the same type of media coverage for Egypt. Do you know what they say? They say, 'the Muslim Brotherhood torched 30 churches.' But the fact is that they were trying to protect them," concluded Erdogan.

While addressing the crowd in Bursa regarding the situation in Egypt, Erdogan made the Rabaa sign, symbol of anti-coup protests.

Hundreds of protesters, including women and children, had taken refuge in the Al Fath Mosque in the Egyptian capital Cairo following assault by security forces in Ramses Square escalated.

Later, security forces tightened control over the entire square and besieged Fath Mosque and the nearby Tawheed Mosque.

More than 181 people were killed Friday in mass rallies staged by pro-democracy demonstrators in several Egyptian cities to protest Wednesday's violent dispersal of their two main protest sites in Cairo and Giza.

Egypt has been in a state of turmoil since security forces violently dispersed the sit-ins in Rabaa al-Adawiya and Nahda squares on Wednesday.

The Health Ministry has said that at least 638 people had been killed in nationwide violence since Wednesday, including 288 in Rabaa and 87 in Nahda.

However, the pro-Morsi alliance has put the number of deaths from the Rabaa sit-in alone at some 2,600.

 

[darkinsky]

 

[olcayto]

@BlueWarrior

The top picture says,

Salam to Mursi
Continue the struggle.

 

[Solomon2]

In other words, the Israeli government told General Sisi to go ahead and overthrow the government because you can count on our lobby, AIPAC to ensure that you get the annual $1.5 billion anyway.

If you read the article the context of Israeli support is AFTER the coup itself so this "In other words..." bit is an unjustifiable invention.

Readers will also note that Israeli support - post-coup lobbying to protect military aid to Egypt - is discussed third, after that of the Emiratis and the Saudis.

 

[ELTurco]

In his todays speech Erdogan likened Sisi to Bashar Asad.



ERDOĞAN REACTS TO SILENCE OVER MASSACRES IN EGYPT

Prime Prime Recep Tayyip Erdoğan strongly reacted to massacres being committed in Egypt and criticized international community for its silence over these massacres.

Addressing the Gulf countries Erdoğan said the ones who are silent over Egypt today will not be able to speak tomorrow when it will be their turn and United Nations does not have a face to look into mirror anymore.

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan expressed his stern reaction once again in Bursa.

The Prime Minister especially criticized western and Gulf countries.

Stating that $16 billion have been donated to Egyptian coup administration Erdoğan said these donors are the partners of the coup administration in Egypt.

Responding to criticism of Egyptian coup leaders towards Turkey Prime Minister Erdoğan said they want Turkey to turn a blind eye and remain silent over coup and massacres violating its own conscience. While bullets are being showered on the justice seekers, the people who are silent and approve and appreciate these actions with their silence have drowned into this blood to the extent that they will not be able to face their own conscience. A state terrorism is being carried out in Egypt right now, Prime Minister Erdoğan said.

Regarding the siege of Al Fatah Mosque Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said worship place of the people is innocent however these people have burned and destroyed mosques in Syria and Egypt while Sisi is indifferent from Bashar.

Touching upon the claims that Muslim Brotherhood burned churches Erdoğan said the international media have distorted the incidents and drew attention towards the traps intended for the region and Turkey.

Criticizing United Nations Prime Minister Erdoğan said efforts are underway to stop bloodshed.

Erdoğan said UN Security Council and European Union do not have a face to look into mirror. They couldn’t even condemn. The ones who are silent over Egypt today will not be able to speak tomorrow when it will be their turn.

The Prime Minister underscored the games being played in the region and said the traps over Turkey will be permitted.


Erdo

 

[BlueWarrior]

In his todays speech Erdogan likened Sisi to Bashar Asad.



ERDOĞAN REACTS TO SILENCE OVER MASSACRES IN EGYPT

Prime Prime Recep Tayyip Erdoğan strongly reacted to massacres being committed in Egypt and criticized international community for its silence over these massacres.

Addressing the Gulf countries Erdoğan said the ones who are silent over Egypt today will not be able to speak tomorrow when it will be their turn and United Nations does not have a face to look into mirror anymore.

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan expressed his stern reaction once again in Bursa.

The Prime Minister especially criticized western and Gulf countries.

Stating that $16 billion have been donated to Egyptian coup administration Erdoğan said these donors are the partners of the coup administration in Egypt.

Responding to criticism of Egyptian coup leaders towards Turkey Prime Minister Erdoğan said they want Turkey to turn a blind eye and remain silent over coup and massacres violating its own conscience. While bullets are being showered on the justice seekers, the people who are silent and approve and appreciate these actions with their silence have drowned into this blood to the extent that they will not be able to face their own conscience. A state terrorism is being carried out in Egypt right now, Prime Minister Erdoğan said.

Regarding the siege of Al Fatah Mosque Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said worship place of the people is innocent however these people have burned and destroyed mosques in Syria and Egypt while Sisi is indifferent from Bashar.

Touching upon the claims that Muslim Brotherhood burned churches Erdoğan said the international media have distorted the incidents and drew attention towards the traps intended for the region and Turkey.

Criticizing United Nations Prime Minister Erdoğan said efforts are underway to stop bloodshed.

Erdoğan said UN Security Council and European Union do not have a face to look into mirror. They couldn’t even condemn. The ones who are silent over Egypt today will not be able to speak tomorrow when it will be their turn.

The Prime Minister underscored the games being played in the region and said the traps over Turkey will be permitted.


Erdo

I think UN doesn't care about anything but to attack Erdogan, we can recall how they all condemned Erdogan's hate speech against Israel several times and critisizing Turkey as second class democracy after Gezi protest I feel sorry for him because no one backs him.

 

[iranigirl2]

Saudi prince fires director of Islamic TV channel


RIYADH, Saudi Arabia -- Saudi billionaire Prince Alwaleed bin Talal has fired the director of an Islamic TV channel for his role as the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in Kuwait.

He wrote Sunday on his Twitter account that he sacked Tarek Al-Suwaidan "for admitting he belongs to the Brotherhood terrorist movement."

Al-Suwaidan, a Kuwaiti, was the director general of Al-Resalah channel, which belongs to Alwaleed's Rotana Group — a large pan-Arab media conglomerate based in Riyadh.

Al-Suwaidan has sharply criticized Egypt's military-backed government and voiced support for deposed President Mohammed Morsi on his Twitter account.

Saudi King Abdullah, whose country has pledged $5 billion in aid to Egypt's interim leaders, supported Cairo's crackdown on the Brotherhood, saying the kingdom stood by Egypt's fight against "terrorism and strife."

Read more here: RIYADH, Saudi Arabia: Saudi prince fires director of Islamic TV channel - World Wires - MiamiHerald.com

 

[iranigirl2]

Canadians reported arrested amid Egypt crisis


Canadians reported arrested amid Egypt crisis - Canada - CBC News

 

[Keyxusraw]

I think UN doesn't care about anything but to attack Erdogan, we can recall how they all condemned Erdogan's hate speech against Israel several times and critisizing Turkey as second class democracy after Gezi protest I feel sorry for him because no one backs him.

Know why? Because the guy can not even distance himself or condemn the racism and facism committed by hiw own police and military. He is always quick to condemn attacks against Muslims in Egypt, Palestine, Burma, Syria etc. But what about attacks against his own people in hiw own country? It is actually a very good political strategy. By focusing on attacks against Muslims in other countries, he is removing focus of attacks against people in his own country. So sad that Muslims really believe Erdogan gives two cents about them...