Egypt | Army Ousts Mursi govt, violence erupts | News & Discussions

[islamrules]

 

[iranigirl2]

Mistaken again. 2011/2 in front of the defence ministry.



I like how there's literally no reaction by anyone else except the women to the right. Notice the chubby kid with his hands on his hips

What percentage of people in Egypt Support the MB?

It seems like Egypt's army wants to wipe out the MB organization and kill all the members.

 

[Jihad_]

Christian Policeman doing The Sign of the Cross While Targeting Civilians With Gunfire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqzUprRrr8I#at=70

 

[iranigirl2]

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[Solomon2]

Even though I am a Shia Muslim and have no truck with Islamists of any hue or colour, from what I have seen from Independent journalists (western) ones, the violence has been simply horrific, the vast majority from the Egyptian security forces.

Remember, you only see on TV where the cameras are permitted to go and what the networks choose to show you. So it's difficult for us, at a distance, to make the judgement of where the "vast majority" of violence is coming from.

However, the pictures on TV of tanks shooting unarmed Egyptians with their hands held up in the air suggests that the police and soldiers have received orders to ensure they have unjustifiable blood on their hands. They must feel they are now creatures of their commanders and must stand or fall with them - an old story in Arab culture, I'm sorry to say, one that tends to lock in military tyranny.

Pharao Sisi choose for this bloodbath. MB was ready for compromise.

All accounts are - no, up to this point have been - that the M-B doesn't have the wits for compromise, otherwise matters would not have reached this point.

 

[Solomon2]

This slogan was raised at a Hamas-led rally on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem on Friday. As EoZ put it, "So in one tiny slice of time, we have Arab justification of the Holocaust, antisemitic conspiracy theories, and a desecration of the Jews' holiest place with people who want to ethnically cleanse all Jews from the region."

 

[Solomon2]

Egypt's invitation to National Kissing Day

Tue, 13/08/2013 - 18:16

Egypt Independent
An event to celebrate National Kissing Day in Egypt on 30 August was posted by Facebook users on Tuesday. The invitation was welcomed by thousands of social media users, mostly younger ones.

“Is there anything more beautiful than seeing people loving each other and exchanging kisses?” the description of the event said. “With love, we build a healthy balanced society; while by imposing taboos, we spread hate and extremism.”

While many welcomed the invitation, a number of other users fiercely attacked it.

Nagla Ahmed is one of the users who did not exactly fall in love with the idea. “I don’t know what to tell you. Can’t you do something to serve the country or help out detainees?”

Ahmed called the event “an empty farce."

She went on to curse the revolution which, in her opinion, made society suffer.

Another Facebook user, Alaa Magdi, tried to be more understanding of women's rights, stating that he was against the oppression of women. He still opposed the idea: "I’m not religious, or calling for religion... but how can I grasp that this event is giving women back their rights?”

Karim Al-Gehiny, on the other hand, defended the event. "In brief, this is not an incitement of immorality and debauchery, but a strike against backwardness.”

Gehiny voiced disappointment at those insulting the organizers, demanding that the nay-sayers discuss the matter with respect or otherwise ignore the event.

The Kissing Day celebration remained completely symbolic in Hossam Bakir’s opinion.

The event page does not announce a specific place to celebrate National Kissing Day, instead leaving each governorate to choose the proper place to celebrate it according to local opinions

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Eyewitness: March to Ramses

Tom Rollins
Sat, 17/08/2013 - 17:19

Yesterday was the Muslim Brotherhood’s “Day of Rage.” While 28 marches planned to converge on Ramses Square in the heart of Cairo, a grid-iron army presence across the capital blocked off routes. Outbreaks of clashes by mid-afternoon turned into all-out violence in the Egyptian violence. The Health Ministry has said 173 people have been killed.

The protest I joined began at Sphinx Square. Two or three marches, one of them from the nearby Magfhera mosque, joined up. Not far down the road, army APCs lined the horizon – close to Mostafa Mahmoud mosque where at least 22 people were killed in street clashes with the police on Wednesday. It felt like the start of countless other marches or protests I have been on – Occupy Wall Street, British anti-austerity marches, trade union pickets – hopeful. Hopeful and a little futile.

When the thousands-strong crowd began to wind onto May 15 Bridge, a 20-year-old man climbed on top of a billboard above the motorway. He was trying to cut down the huge advertisement with Bassem Youssef’s face on it, smiling coyly on the motorists that were not there now. Running his small knife along the top of the 20-foot canvas, crowds cheered up at the man. But that was all he was able to do, skim the top of Youssef’s slicked-back liberal hair-do. Afterwards it felt like something done in vain, more a statement than an action with results. But the crowds cheered and chanted, and moved on down the road.

Over Zamalek and the Nile, occasionally someone would come out onto their balcony and wave an Egyptian flag or throw out a peace sign. Most people looked on in silence. One female marcher approached me. “Are you press?” she asked. “Please tell people that we are peaceful, that we do not have weapons.” What happened a couple of minutes later threw that statement into doubt.

As the march reached the downtown-side of May 15 Bridge, pro-Morsi marchers and loose groups of people on the Corniche below started throwing rocks at each other. One or two shots (from what sounded like a shotgun) rang out, I don’t know where from or from which side. Then a rapid volley of gunfire confirmed that there were automatic weapons in the crowd. It felt like almost right away and out of nowhere, men with AK-47s with keffiyehs around their heads and necks appeared in amongst the pro-Morsi protesters. Up the road, towards the October 6 Bridge intersection, young men were throwing rocks onto marchers below as they ran through in a line. People tried to take cover behind the metal barriers lining the road. There was a lot of confusion and screaming.

One man in a keffiyeh was firing a few metres behind me. He shot at the rooftops to the left and right of the bridge road. I couldn’t see any shooters there. Another shooter on the bridge fired at the rooftop stone-throwers, who then took cover and disappeared. There were shots that sounded like they were not coming from the march.

The group I was in started running forwards, further along the bridge. The whole area felt exposed. Gunmen were scanning rooftops. I stepped over a small bandage soaked in fresh blood. As we started running forwards, I looked to my right and saw a man’s head on the rooftop. I didn’t see him with a gun but a few seconds later bullets were hitting the building on the opposite side of the road, suggesting someone was firing from the right. The bullets were hitting maybe 15 feet above the road surface. Either the guy was a terrible shot – with all the gaps in the road barriers, and the hundreds of people passing by them it would not have been difficult to hit us – or he was trying to scare people and push them towards October 6 Bridge. This second theory would make more sense once we arrived there.

At the intersection, people were rushing onto October 6 Bridge. A quick glance behind confirmed that the police were waiting for crowds to move on to the main bridge, a line of three of four police trucks with armed officers waiting at the sides. It didn’t occur to me at the time that this might be a trap.

The march had stopped at the front. You could hear shooting away at the front, but it was not clear from where. The four or five gunmen I had seen in amongst protesters before were nowhere to be seen. I saw no guns in the crowds now. I presumed they were fighting out front. Every few minutes a scooter or motorbike would rush back from the invisible frontline with the injured, some of them looked seriously hurt. One man had a neck wound, blood gushing down his chest.

I looked back towards the police line behind the intersection and they had advanced. On a rooftop near the state media building two men had taken up position and were shooting. At first I thought they were police and were shooting protesters but the main body of the march was now in front of the direction they were aiming at. If they’d wanted to kill pro-Morsi protesters, there were hundreds of people to choose from bunched together. They may have been firing on protesters right at the back. Or they were firing on the police.

Sporadic tear gas clouds were now appearing on both sides of the pro-Morsi bunch on the bridge. I saw tear gas fired from a roof. Then the police rearguard started moving quicker, following pro-Morsi protesters as they ran down the bridge in the direction of Ramses. Men shouted down at residents watching underneath the bridge. Some scrabbled to reach the flimsy branches of a high-up tree to get off the bridge. Videos later emerged of people actually climbing off the bridge further down the road, despite the 20 or 30-odd-feet drop to the road below. People felt trapped, there was panic. A group I was in knelt and lay down to take cover. The crack of bullets coming from the direction of Ramses, and ricochets landing nearby, confirmed that someone was firing on protesters. Eyewitness reports later suggested armed beltageya (or thugs) were firing on protesters under the protection of police.

Minutes later, the police rearguard was firing birdshot onto the stragglers behind, where I was now trying to take cover. People were running in the direction of Ramses. At this point I ran across the road and made it clear I was press. I received a few birdshot rounds in the back until the advancing police heard me shouting “Sahafi! Sahafi!” They gestured me to leave, along with two other reporters who appeared to be reeling from the effects of the tear gas.

After running to the back of the police line, I was briefly held by an officer and beltageya. My passport and all of my equipment were taken.

I am ashamed I left.

I tweeted much of this account yesterday. Some Egyptians have accused me of being a liar, others have said I must be colour blind. Whether the guns I saw were pink, polka *** or brown and black, both sides were armed. Interim Prime Minister Hazem al-Beblawy has said the 173 casualties from yesterday were due to civilians clashing with Brotherhood supporters, Brotherhood supporters clashing with civilians.

I cannot deny this, although I suspect the reality was more complex and harder to swallow. I only briefly saw non-Brotherhood snipers. Either way, they appeared to be coordinating with the police to move protesters over the bridge where they could be dealt with in a more official capacity by the authorities. This is not black and white, right and wrong. I saw two groups that, if not trying to kill each other, saw no problem in putting civilians in the direct line of fire. That includes the police, as well as the gunmen amongst the pro-Morsi march.

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Ministry of social solidarity to start disbanding Muslim Brotherhood

Sun, 18/08/2013 - 00:23

Supporters of deposed Egyptian President Mohamed Mursi shout slogans during a protest at the Rabaa Adawiya square, where they are camping, in Cairo July 27, 2013. Reuters​

Egypt Independent
Minister of Social Solidarity Ahmed al-Borai said that the ministry has started taking the legal steps necessary to disband the Muslim Brotherhood.

Al-Borai added that the decision to disband the group has become a "legal duty" after the "terrorist acts" they were involved in, according to him.

He added that the ministry has the legal right to disband the organization after Shura council has been dissolved and constitution nullified.

The Muslim Brotherhood's file has been sent to the General Federation of Non-governmental Organizations to be studied. An official decision would be taken in 15 days.

Al-Borai also said that the decision to dismantle the organization will oblige it to reveal its sources of funding, its true identity, and official agenda. He added that under the current circumstances, a court ruling won't be necessary given "the crimes" the organization has committed.

 

[Mosamania]

Egyptian Military wearing Saudi-made Bullet proof vests:

These vests are used by Special National Security Officers:

Made by Military Uniforms and Accessories Factory:

 

[Mosamania]

Saudi religious scholars condemn military coup in Egypt

Yessss. This is excellent news, one of the best I heard in a long time.

Now these scholars will be taken out like flies and the Kingdom will push a Liberal hardliner approach finally. These bearded scum will soon eat dirt.

 

[Brutas]

That’s funny, you put Turks and Kurds in the "civilized" category while how have they been solving problems the last few decades ? bloodbath.
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Could be, but they are not tribal Bedouin cannibals !

 

[Solomon2]

Airing Out the House of Egypt

Mona Eltahawy is an Egyptian-American feminist writer and commentator on Arab and Muslim issues.

UPDATED AUGUST 14, 2013, 10:59 PM

I’m a tenacious optimist. Not foolish, but tenacious. Our revolution in Egypt is very much alive. It has been battered, and left for dead too many times to count, but it's still very much alive.

I’m writing this in Cairo where along with 13 other provinces we’re under curfew and a nationwide state of emergency has been announced just one day after a day drenched in blood - the bloodiest since our revolution - a day that included at least 20 churches getting torched.

Our revolution isn’t dead, it is bringing Egypt back to life, painfully and messily. Egypt is like a house that’s been under lock and key, every door and window trapped shut for more than 60 years. The revolution kicked them all open and the stench is unbearable. But we are persevering. My proof? Egypt has changed, forever.

Our brutal security forces whose lexicon is “beat and shoot to kill” have seen again and again that Egyptians will stand up to them. They can’t kill us all. The military--including its head, the Defense Minister Gen. El Sissi--knows that we stood up to the military junta that ran the country after Hosni Mubarak was forced to step down. Our protests ended more than six decades of military rule.

Wednesday’s horrors were a reminder of the vicious paradigm forced on Egypt for those 60 years: an authoritarian military regime or an authoritarian Muslim Brotherhood alternative. But our revolution did not call for either military rule or for an Islamist Egypt. It called for bread, liberty, social justice and dignity.

Activists and street protesters whose mass mobilizations ruffled both the military junta that preceded Morsi’s presidency and that continued to resist his authoritarianism are gradually realizing that freedom is more than romantic notions of “leaderless revolutions.” We are learning just how far protests can take us.

Don’t talk to me of numbers, of majority and minority. Revolutions are started and maintained by passionate minorities. Egypt is bigger than the military and the Muslim Brotherhood paradigm. At this stage, as we withstand the stench and clear out our house, there is not a political group that has not suffered or lost loved ones or been brutalized. Wise and cool heads in Egypt must remind us of that and rise above the mass killing and the torching of churches and say "enough."

Our revolution has been declared dead many times. Throughout the massacres, protests and brutality of security forces, many have told us that we are done for, forever doomed to live in tyranny and that basically we are incapable of being free.

I refuse to give up on Egypt!

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[BlueWarrior]

Failed state
http://www.euronews.com/2013/08/17/germany-s-foreign-minister-warns-of-possible-civil-war-in-egypt/

 

[Doritos11]

failed state is the entire middle east.. forget the useless word

 

[monitor]

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

If u r a muslim with a beard and affraid to be harmed by the thugs put on a cross and tell them u r christian , they will give u a ride home

you are talking about Egypt ?about 90 percent sunni muslim