DRDO India's lumbering dinosaur

[帅的一匹]

You might be a great soccer Player, but you might not a good coach.

You might be a great soccer Player, but you might not a good coach.

 

[Sergi]

You might be a great soccer Player, but you might not a good coach.

You might be a great soccer Player, but you might not a good coach.

Exactly...

 

[punit]

DRDO is just like any other govt office full of good 4 nothing babus. Who spends half the time doing nothng and remaining half harrassng hard workng scientists.

DRDO is just like any other govt office full of good 4 nothing babus. Who spends half the time doing nothng and remaining half harrassng hard workng scientists.

 

[faithfulguy]

No indian prefer buying weapons, you have to buy when you got no choice. India is still in the progress of learning as well as china, we just steps before them. India get access to technology like Rafale and FGFA, it is the advantage for them. When you buy a new weapon, try hard to assimilliate the tech involved in it, and try to build a same one on your own,that is called steady progress.

If India is capable of assimilate technology and build the same one on their own, then they would make steady progress. But India has not shown willingness or is incapable to take this step. The excuses given here is that Indian just don't copy! This is hogwash as the best way to progress is not to reinvent the wheel.

 

[Abingdonboy]

If India is capable of assimilate technology and build the same one on their own, then they would make steady progress. But India has not shown willingness or is incapable to take this step. The excuses given here is that Indian just don't copy! This is hogwash as the best way to progress is not to reinvent the wheel.

There's not reinventing the wheel and then there's illegally infringing intellectual property, ripping off the design of a wheel, reverse engineering it, rebranding it and passing it off as an indigenous product.

 

[faithfulguy]

There's not reinventing the wheel and then there's illegally infringing intellectual property, ripping off the design of a wheel, reverse engineering it, rebranding it and passing it off as an indigenous product.

When it's a wheel, you go from there and try to improve on it.Your posting is just another excuse to defend the incompetence of HAL.

 

[livingdead]

When it's a wheel, you go from there and try to improve on it.Your posting is just another excuse to defend the incompetence of HAL.

The moment we start reverse engineer the products, people will stop selling to us. The best bet is to collaborate with others as partners.

If we lack design capability, we should pay a design house for consultation, and rest we should build.

ISRO is one of our success stories, simply because good leadership. They dont pay more than DRDO, I am sure, but people feel a sense of pride/achievement in working for them.

 

[mfreak]

When it's a wheel, you go from there and try to improve on it.Your posting is just another excuse to defend the incompetence of HAL.

Every buy India does on the international market, comes with some form of Technology Transfer. For example the Rafale deal - some of the aircraft will be bought off the shelf, and most will be made in India. WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF DASSAULT. That is not reinventing the wheel, that is complying by rules and regulations and international trade deals.

What you are proposing is for India to steal technology. i.e, build Dassault Rafale, and name it HAL something, and sell it as a different plane worldwide. That is copyright infringement and is intellectual property theft of a brand that is owned by a different business entity. In a democracy that is not possible. If any company in India does that, they will be shut down, arrested and thrown in jail.

However what we should do to not reinvent the wheel is try to have a more open economy, sign MoUs, get ToT and proceed from there. Also go for more co-development projects, that will give us the necessary knowledge. We should also strive to pay our engineers at HAL better and create a better brand out of it, so it will attract talented individuals and implement new processes. Most now prefer to go abroad. We should also involve private players. Infact I would propose that for any project the govt select 2 private agencies to build something and then choose one out of the two. Like the US does. That will keep competition alive, and they will use the best of the best to engineer a good weapon.

 

[Hulk]

Every government owned institutions suffer from the efficiency problem and so is DRDO. The key is to privatize some portion of the Industry. We are moving in that direction already. Stealing is not the right way of avoiding reinventing the wheel.

 

[OrionHunter]

# Its premier UAV the Nishant is not aerodynamic, takes hours to deploy and the army has been compelled to accept a dozen.

Good! We need to put Sharad Pawar in one of those!

 

[faithfulguy]

Every buy India does on the international market, comes with some form of Technology Transfer. For example the Rafale deal - some of the aircraft will be bought off the shelf, and most will be made in India. WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF DASSAULT. That is not reinventing the wheel, that is complying by rules and regulations and international trade deals.

What you are proposing is for India to steal technology. i.e, build Dassault Rafale, and name it HAL something, and sell it as a different plane worldwide. That is copyright infringement and is intellectual property theft of a brand that is owned by a different business entity. In a democracy that is not possible. If any company in India does that, they will be shut down, arrested and thrown in jail.

However what we should do to not reinvent the wheel is try to have a more open economy, sign MoUs, get ToT and proceed from there. Also go for more co-development projects, that will give us the necessary knowledge. We should also strive to pay our engineers at HAL better and create a better brand out of it, so it will attract talented individuals and implement new processes. Most now prefer to go abroad. We should also involve private players. Infact I would propose that for any project the govt select 2 private agencies to build something and then choose one out of the two. Like the US does. That will keep competition alive, and they will use the best of the best to engineer a good weapon.

It's one thing to make a duplicate copy, another to copy and improve. All country infringe on copy rights if it serve their interest. As copy rights rules, like nt other rules, are determine by the powerful ones. I start to believe that India lack reverse engineering capability. Is that true?