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DRDO developing E-bomb to paralyze Pakistani tactical weapons

In a whole year Pakistan sells approximately 100,000 cars, that too mostly to be used as cabs, while India has monthly sales of over 2.5 lakhs cars on average. Still India has no middle class as compared to Pakistan as per the eminent Daneshwars of Pakistan.
 
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Faraday cage is the word here
It is not a reliable solution. Experts will tell you as much.

It's an EMP, this isn't new technology, and this isn't news.
EMP sounds old because nuclear weapons can produce the effect.

But (strictly) EMP weapons were a stuff of Sci-Fi just a few years back until Boeing demonstrated a working prototype.
 
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Only the US have managed to develop EMP weapons so far. Here is an example:

This depends on how we classify EMP.

What separates a radar from an EMP device? Power. Crank up the power on a radar and it'll burn electronics rather then jam them.

The SPY series radars found on US AEGIS ships pumps out so much energy that not only can it detect stealth aircraft at ultra-long ranges, but it literally "burns" through jamming attempts and can impact the electronics inside of airborne jammers if they're close enough.

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How close does an enemy system need to be negatively effected by AN/SPY-1's power output? Unfortunately that's classified.

A number of Russian radar systems like the Zaslon found on the Mig-31 are capable of putting out enough energy to burn electronics, and animals like rabbits (reportedly from about 400 feet above ground) through power output alone.

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EMP doesn't need to be directional, though directional versions exist too, often in the form of high-powered jammers like the Russian Krasukha-4

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They are simply, from a semantical perspective, large bursts of EM radiation, which high-power radars technically do.

As far as battlefield EMPs like the CHAMP missile system, there've always been rumors of Russian EMP devices the size of beer cans and EMP bombs, it's reported the Iskander missile has an EMP warhead, but these are all unsubstantiated rumors.

It's not as if such it's unfamiliar to Russia though. They've EMP testing ranges - for testing a systems resilience to EMC and EM pulses - again, talk to @SvenSvensonov / @Sven about this as he did such things while in the USN. This is EMSEC's providence.

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US systems like this B-52 undergo similar testing, as this trestle at Kirkland AFB shows.

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There's no evidence they're deploying dedicated EMP weapons like CHAMP, though their radars and EW systems can serve similar functions, but they've an intimate knowledge of how to create EMPs both nuclear and non-nuclear, so I'm not ready to say the US alone is doing this.

Russia has a lot of experience with EMPs and electronic warfare.

Non-nuclear EMP can be quite handy, if you think about it.

And interestingly, not non-lethal. As with military systems, lethality is 9 parts operator usage and 1 part luck. Used against civilian targets, say downing the stock market or disrupting food production machinery, you could end up with financial collapse, hunger and eventually rioting. A possibly lethal outcome.

But that's a bit too hyperbolic. Rather, let's look at a more recent and avoidable scenario - attacks against hospitals. We've seen what an AC-130 can do

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But an EMP is potentially just as lethal when used incorrectly and against a civilian target as the AC-130 was... just not to the hospitals staff. Unshielded, as civilian infrastructure generally is (even critical infrastructure like telecoms, electrical generation, food supply or water pumps), an EMP used inadvertently against a civilian target like a hospital is going to cause casualties as medical equipment is shutdown. This not only directly harms those using that equipment, but makes long-term battlefield care more difficult and may lead to greater numbers of enemy casualties, which in warfare is desirable. Civilian casualties aren't.

This is just one example, but it shows that while the EMP isn't going to be lethal on its own, it can cause casualties if used incorrectly. It's very counterintuitive, but when you delve deeper into the consequences we see that such scenarios aren't always unavoidable in war and the consequences are harsh.
 
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EMP hasn't been successful anywhere in the world. The problem is frequency. The frequency emitted by the weapons should be same as the target system to have any effect.
In reality the EMP device churns out a very wide range of frequencies and unless megaton range of Nukes are not exploded EMP wont emit enough usable power in a certain frequency to have an effect on electrical circuits working in that rage.
 
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Guys please let our Indian friends have their moment, they need it every once in a while.
Meanwhile Indian vedic spaceships.
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This depends on how we classify EMP.

What separates a radar from an EMP device? Power. Crank up the power on a radar and it'll burn electronics rather then jam them.

The SPY series radars found on US AEGIS ships pumps out so much energy that not only can it detect stealth aircraft at ultra-long ranges, but it literally "burns" through jamming attempts and can impact the electronics inside of airborne jammers if they're close enough.

ticonderoga-cruiser-010.jpg


How close does an enemy system need to be negatively effected by AN/SPY-1's power output? Unfortunately that's classified.

A number of Russian radar systems like the Zaslon found on the Mig-31 are capable of putting out enough energy to burn electronics, and animals like rabbits (reportedly from about 400 feet above ground) through power output alone.

1280px-DN-ST-92-02246.JPEG


EMP doesn't need to be directional, though directional versions exist too, often in the form of high-powered jammers like the Russian Krasukha-4

a699bc3dd320286090d50f414b03b77c_article.jpg


They are simply, from a semantical perspective, large bursts of EM radiation, which high-power radars technically do.

As far as battlefield EMPs like the CHAMP missile system, there've always been rumors of Russian EMP devices the size of beer cans and EMP bombs, it's reported the Iskander missile has an EMP warhead, but these are all unsubstantiated rumors.

It's not as if such it's unfamiliar to Russia though. They've EMP testing ranges - for testing a systems resilience to EMC and EM pulses - again, talk to @SvenSvensonov / @Sven about this as he did such things while in the USN. This is EMSEC's providence.

soviet-era-tesla-towers-mysterious-object-in-moscow-suburbs-8.jpeg


soviet-era-tesla-towers-mysterious-object-in-moscow-suburbs-12.jpeg


soviet-era-tesla-towers-mysterious-object-in-moscow-suburbs-14.jpeg


US systems like this B-52 undergo similar testing, as this trestle at Kirkland AFB shows.

EMP_simplator_Krtland_AFB_New_Mexico.jpg


There's no evidence they're deploying dedicated EMP weapons like CHAMP, though their radars and EW systems can serve similar functions, but they've an intimate knowledge of how to create EMPs both nuclear and non-nuclear, so I'm not ready to say the US alone is doing this.

Russia has a lot of experience with EMPs and electronic warfare.



And interestingly, not non-lethal. As with military systems, lethality is 9 parts operator usage and 1 part luck. Used against civilian targets, say downing the stock market or disrupting food production machinery, you could end up with financial collapse, hunger and eventually rioting. A possibly lethal outcome.

But that's a bit too hyperbolic. Rather, let's look at a more recent and avoidable scenario - attacks against hospitals. We've seen what an AC-130 can do

AP_AFGHAN_ATTACK_DC_160318_16x9_992.jpg


But an EMP is potentially just as lethal when used incorrectly and against a civilian target as the AC-130 was... just not to the hospitals staff. Unshielded, as civilian infrastructure generally is (even critical infrastructure like telecoms, electrical generation, food supply or water pumps), an EMP used inadvertently against a civilian target like a hospital is going to cause casualties as medical equipment is shutdown. This not only directly harms those using that equipment, but makes long-term battlefield care more difficult and may lead to greater numbers of enemy casualties, which in warfare is desirable. Civilian casualties aren't.

This is just one example, but it shows that while the EMP isn't going to be lethal on its own, it can cause casualties if used incorrectly. It's very counterintuitive, but when you delve deeper into the consequences we see that such scenarios aren't always unavoidable in war and the consequences are harsh.

I once watched the series of 'Future weapons' on Discovery, and an american scientist happened to mention that Russians had developed a EMP which could take out electronics and was merely of the size of tin of a soft drink.

Do you happen to know anything about this?
 
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I'm this girl:
Ma'am what happened to your old profile?
I was a bit confused and disappointed when experts like you and sancho left this forum. the place is definitely poorer without people like you.
 
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I once watched the series of 'Future weapons' on Discovery, and an american scientist happened to mention that Russians had developed a EMP which could take out electronics and was merely of the size of tin of a soft drink.

Do you happen to know anything about this?

That was an exaggeration. How EMP works is, you transmit pulses of electric energy at higher frequency, so that static charges accumulates on the electronic circuits and it breaks down eventually.

You achieve it by having an array of capacitors, and discharging part of it at timed intervals to imitate that electrical discharge. You cannot pack that amount of capacitors in a soft drink can.

*P.S. I'm drunk, kindly neglect my grammatical errors
 
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Don't give us Wikipedia.. Pak has a vibrant middle class .. India has a non existent one..

Lulz, shall we compare production & consumption of electronics, automobiles and other related factors from both countries.

Man this forum is getting funnier everyday.:haha:
 
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