Dr. Amir Liaqat gets a Pakistani killed!

[Musafir117]

It is not as simple as that. Their loyalty to the country is in doubt because they answer to leaders permanently based outside of the country whose views at times are in conflict with that of the state For example Pakistan does not have relations with Israel but the Ahmadi leadership, bowing to their western masters, accepts Israel. In turn, all Ahmadis accept Israel as an entity. Because of this there have been cases of Ahamdis at sensitive posts spying for Israel. The Ahmadis are not as innocent, prosecuted group as you portray them to be. They have attempted to undermine the very fabric of the country's society.

Your above post based on conspires on false ones, instead of them our government bowing to their western masters, Pakistan accept Israel or not but almost all Pakistan buying and using their brands, Hypocrisy is deeply routed in this nation.
That type of post just showing you have nothing left to debate and start talk on allegation without any prove, as I told another moron that even he don't know the name of current supreme leader of Ahmadiyya community that shows his knowledge regarding the subject he is trying to be a genius.
Ahmadies have their missionaries in Israel and community living their decades ago Israel merged as a country in map. Well, there are also thousands of Arab Muslims living in Israel so according your point of view they also has no loyalty towards Ummah? if you wanna debate bring some proves with what you claiming.
Regarding Ahmadiyya community loyalty towards Pakistan is not questionable from it's creation till now they served remarkably and doesn't need your certificate on this.

Military
Ahmadis, had served in the military of Pakistan and fought in Indo-Pakistani wars and conflicts.

Major General Mian Hayaud Din, MC, MBE, senior Pakistani army officer.
Air Marshal Zafar Chaudhry, first Chief of Air Staff of Pakistan, former Managing Director of Pakistan International Airlines
Lieutenant General Akhtar Hussain Malik, 1965 war hero who launched Operation Grand Slam leading Pakistani army deep into Indian held Kashmir.
Lieutenant General Abdul Ali Malik led Pakistan in the largest Tank battle since World War II taking Indians by surprise.
Major General Iftikhar Janjua- 1965 war hero, highest Pakistan army officer to be killed in action.

I just paste this from wikki and there are also fields of Diplomates, Education and Science etc. Sir Mohammad Zafrullah Khan Sahib, Dr. Abdus Salam, Mirza Muzzafar Ahamd, Ubaidullah Aleem are few among on that.

The joke is that a group of mullah party who was against the creation of Pakistan thook ke chat rahe hain besharmi ke sath dhitai ke sath and giving others now loyalty or disloyalty certificates. Just pathetic.

 

[Ahsan Butt]

I know the difference, I don't need a dirty cow urine drinking Hindu to tell me that. The concept of ummah is embedded in Islam and it is not a political movement requiring support. one cannot pick choose aspects of Islam, you take the whole package. and the concept Khilafat is linked with the concept of Ummah.

It will be good if you are not disclose any type of religion matters on any social platform.. what Ahmedi's did? what Islam said? these topics are no to discussed.. i hope you didn't mind.. Have a nice day

 

[Irfan Hanif]

Sad incident. Killing of any innocent human being is not allowed in Islam, whatever religion he/she has.

 

[Not Sure]

I know the difference, I don't need a dirty cow urine drinking Hindu to tell me that. The concept of ummah is embedded in Islam and it is not a political movement requiring support. one cannot pick choose aspects of Islam, you take the whole package. and the concept Khilafat is linked with the concept of Ummah.

Must be quite a culture to produce a specimen like you

 

[Bossman]

Your above post based on conspires on false ones, instead of them our government bowing to their western masters, Pakistan accept Israel or not but almost all Pakistan buying and using their brands, Hypocrisy is deeply routed in this nation.
That type of post just showing you have nothing left to debate and start talk on allegation without any prove, as I told another moron that even he don't know the name of current supreme leader of Ahmadiyya community that shows his knowledge regarding the subject he is trying to be a genius.
Ahmadies have their missionaries in Israel and community living their decades ago Israel merged as a country in map. Well, there are also thousands of Arab Muslims living in Israel so according your point of view they also has no loyalty towards Ummah? if you wanna debate bring some proves with what you claiming.
Regarding Ahmadiyya community loyalty towards Pakistan is not questionable from it's creation till now they served remarkably and doesn't need your certificate on this.

Military
Ahmadis, had served in the military of Pakistan and fought in Indo-Pakistani wars and conflicts.

Major General Mian Hayaud Din, MC, MBE, senior Pakistani army officer.
Air Marshal Zafar Chaudhry, first Chief of Air Staff of Pakistan, former Managing Director of Pakistan International Airlines
Lieutenant General Akhtar Hussain Malik, 1965 war hero who launched Operation Grand Slam leading Pakistani army deep into Indian held Kashmir.
Lieutenant General Abdul Ali Malik led Pakistan in the largest Tank battle since World War II taking Indians by surprise.
Major General Iftikhar Janjua- 1965 war hero, highest Pakistan army officer to be killed in action.

I just paste this from wikki and there are also fields of Diplomates, Education and Science etc. Sir Mohammad Zafrullah Khan Sahib, Dr. Abdus Salam, Mirza Muzzafar Ahamd, Ubaidullah Aleem are few among on that.

The joke is that a group of mullah party who was against the creation of Pakistan thook ke chat rahe hain besharmi ke sath dhitai ke sath and giving others now loyalty or disloyalty certificates. Just pathetic.

I know the Ahmadiyya movement very well including its current leaders. These guys are no different from the Jahil Mullahs you love to shout about. They exploited the uncertainty and insecurity of Indian Muslims especially Punjabis in the turmoil and breakdown of normal society after the 1865 war/mutiny with the tacit support of the British. They were scam artists who survived thanks to British protection and encouragement. You are obviously an Ahmadi and like every other Ahmadi in the world you diligently send a percentage of your income to your leaders living a comfortable life in London. As far as the names you have listed here, I am very familiar with them, most of them started their career pre partition before the average people realized the objectives and tactics of the Ahmadyia movement. The key message of the Ahamdiyaa movement is to accept the supremacy of the west which encouraged its followers to be more open to western education and ideas. This helped the Ahamdis do well in professional life. But in the process the Ahmadis violated the basic tenants of Islam. Islam is such great religion that one does not need a false prophet to pursue knowledge or progress or that matter no mullah can hold back Muslims from doing the same. Alternate to a jahil mullah is not a false prophet. You Ahmadis always use Jahil Mullahs as justification for your beliefs but do you realize how weak this logic is and how it shows a total lack of understanding of the universality of Islam. The fact that fundamental premise of Ahmadiyaa movement is based on political subservience to the west makes it a cult rather than a universal religion for all people for all times. The movement will survive within the confines and protection of the west. I have seen how hard Ahmadis try to prove their loyalties to their host countries. Unlike other universal religions, Ahmadiyya movement will never survive a civilizational shift and test of time because it has tied itself to temporal protection of the dominant society and a society never remains dominant forever. This is why universal religions like Islam, Christianity, Judaism, even Buddhism and Hinduism survive the ebbs and peaks of societies and civilizations and cults don't.

Also I am not comparing Pakistan with the Ahmadiyya movement. Pakistan is not a religion, its a country with all weakness and negative elements which are a part of a human society. Using weaknesses of a human society to justify righteousness of your religious beliefs just shows the total moral bankruptcy of your logic.

BTW I do not support killing of any innocent individual irrespective of religion or country or ethnic group etc. My differences are philosophical.

Must be quite a culture to produce a specimen like you

Dominated the likes of you for a thousand years and improved your DNA in the process and will do it again.

 

[OrionHunter]

A typical Indian speaks typical nonsense. I am beginning to wish that all Indians be banned on the forum so that we get rid of the 80% garbage and BS that is posted on this forum!

Have you lost your sanity? You most probably have, seeing the nonsensical tripe that you've just spewed from your behind.

Thank God there are sane Pakistanis on this forum to counterbalance the garbage that some of you churn out, in the hope that you'll be noticed for your misplaced patriotism by bashing Indians.

Your post made you look pretty silly. Grow up.

 

[Panther 57]

Such ignorant people say that business with Jews and Christians is allowed but not with Shias and Qadiyani. I would be grateful if they show us some strong proof of that.

It is high time to realise that basic teaching of Islam is humanity and peace. Even the religion clearly says that for you, your belief and for me, mine and words to that effect. One should not interfere in others religion. Let peace prevail in the country and world.

 

[Krate M]

If ahmediyas are not Muslims, would you object to the gharwapsi to Hinduism of ahmediyas?

 

[Samandri]

And this turd blamed the Ahmedis for the Peshawar massacre!! They're making a joke out of the pogrom. This is plain ridiculous!

This is what happens when a nation state becomes a theocracy. Thanks to Zia who started this all. Whatever happened to the 'modern Pakistan' that the Quaid wanted?

Its our internal matters, hindustani. Apney advises apney paas rako

 

[Jaanbaz]

Qadianis have same faith as majority of Sunnis. Only difference is they have no Maulvis in their communities. They have Murabbis instead that are educated in international Jamias which are found in Western countries such as Canada, UK, Germany. That fact alone makes Qadianis non-Muslim because they have no Maulvis. LOL

Our ''Maulvis'' are heavily regulated. They can't make up stuff like Sunni Mullahs do. They can't incite hatred against other Sects or they too can get sacked by the Ahmadiyya Khalifa. I think that's where Sunnis are having problem with unregulated and power hungry Mullahs, no one is there to keep them in check.

If ahmediyas are not Muslims, would you object to the gharwapsi to Hinduism of ahmediyas?

LOL Which ever way we Ahmadis go we are still kafir and deserving of death. A Hindu Ahmadi would be worse in the eyes of Mullahs, it means they are certainly Indian agents. Right now there are some doubts in Mullahs minds whether we are Jewish, British, American or Indian agents.

 

[Zarvan]

If "99% of Muslims all over the world" support laws such as the anti-Ahmadi laws in Pakistan, then "99% of the Muslims all over the world" are intolerant, hate-mongering degenerates who openly support discrimination and usurpation of the right of others to practice their faith, assuming the 'opinion poll' you used to make that claim is scientifically valid ...

Yes we are intolerant towards liars and fraud and cheat. Ahmedis are not Muslims but as non Muslims in Islamic state they deserve full protection which other minorities also do

 

[Zarvan]

I am actually in Pakistan these days and very sad about the state of my country. I watched the program of that ugly beast Liaqat and the very next day, an innocent human being was killed for nothing. Is this what you want?

No not at all but Ahmedis are not Muslims but as minorities they should be given full protection by state.

 

[Krate M]

@Jaanbaz well the mad mullahs want you dead either way, and to the liberal people your religion doesn't matter, so what say you? Yes or no? Would you object or not?

 

[Pakistani E]

If ahmediyas are not Muslims, would you object to the gharwapsi to Hinduism of ahmediyas?

Ahmadis believe all major religions are originally From Allah. We don't need to put on a show of conversion since we accept that the various religious beliefs in Hinduism came from Allah Ta'ala and that the bhagavad Gita is also a holy book worth respecting and taking inspiration from.

All religions are ghar wapsi in Ahmadiyya Jama'at.

 

[Krate M]

@Pakistani Exile nothing but respect for you, that question was not meant for ahmedis especially you. It is meant for those who don't consider them as Muslims.
If ahmediyas are not Muslims would you object to the reconversion?