Dr. Amir Liaqat gets a Pakistani killed!

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Ahmadis or their forefathers made a conscious choice or were fooled into going against these beliefs. Nobody is stopping them from coming back into the fold.

So where exactly does using the State to discriminate against them and treat them like second class citizens come into the picture?

Ahmadis made the decision (or were born into it) so let them practice their faith as they see fit - why the need for these discriminatory and intolerant anti-Ahmadi laws? Is the faith of Pakistani Muslims so pathetically weak that they have to resort to bullying and discriminating against a minority through the State? Hitler's probably smiling in his grave.

 

[Wolfhound]

I am actually in Pakistan these days.

Where are you exactly(which city)? Can you come to a quran class in Lhr? It may better your point of view of islam.

Obama is of mixed race - I believe in the US he could choose either option (White or black).

No he cant he is a multiracial american(Multiracial American - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) and is considered black by everyone in american and outside of it because of his skin color which is black. This is why they call him the first black president of america. So my post is still valid and your post is once again irreverent

 

[Bossman]

This is why I say that the problem has seeped much deeper in the society, and shallow efforts like Rah-e-rast (or whatever it was) and Zarb e Azb will only halt the process for a minute not cure it, like we try to stop the water from a flood. On our side, the water halts for a while, but on the other side, a greater force begins to pile up. And when the dam breaks, it gets much worse than before.

Go do your Christian proselytizing somewhere else. You and your type are part of the problem and not the solution. If the west keeps its hands away from our part of the world, we will not have half the problems we do today including extremism and militancy. The West, Christians and Ahmadis have nothing to teach us.

 

[Not Sure]

We dont follow the courts decision we follow the ummahs decision hence your post is irrelevant

Who do you think is this Ummah?

And was it not the very same "Ummah's" pressure that forced the Lahore High Court to deface the gravestone of Abdus Salam?

You are that Ummah my dear, those nut jobs sitting in top positions wouldn't survive a day without your support. Everyone wants power, and you are the power. The zeal you display in supporting them says it all.

P.S. I hope you don't mention this "Ummah" out of Pakistan.

 

[OTTOMAN]

Is the faith of Pakistani Muslims so pathetically weak that they have to resort to bullying and discriminating against a minority through the State?

Pakistanis are only born Muslims, and due to their unawareness of Islam, they can be made to believe on any thing in the name of Islam, but if minorities are discriminated in Pakistan, than Pakistan looses its right to call itself 'Islamic republic'... your allegations are quite serious in nature!

 

[Bossman]

So where exactly does using the State to discriminate against them and treat them like second class citizens come into the picture?

Ahmadis made the decision (or were born into it) so let them practice their faith as they see fit - why the need for these discriminatory and intolerant anti-Ahmadi laws? Is the faith of Pakistani Muslims so pathetically weak that they have to resort to bullying and discriminating against a minority through the State? Hitler's probably smiling in his grave.

It is not as simple as that. Their loyalty to the country is in doubt because they answer to leaders permanently based outside of the country whose views at times are in conflict with that of the state For example Pakistan does not have relations with Israel but the Ahmadi leadership, bowing to their western masters, accepts Israel. In turn, all Ahmadis accept Israel as an entity. Because of this there have been cases of Ahamdis at sensitive posts spying for Israel. The Ahmadis are not as innocent, prosecuted group as you portray them to be. They have attempted to undermine the very fabric of the country's society.

 

[Not Sure]

Go do your Christian proselytizing somewhere else. You and your type are part of the problem and not the solution

I am a Hindu, do you want to convert?

I got $$$

 

[ghoul]

Bro, these shaytaani people and their madams were coming to AJK, to look for young females for the mujra houses. That's how much of a shameful munafiq people they are.One of the whores got away with a child, before the people with arms and local militia could get to the scenes of devastation. Thereafter the army, particularly AJK regiment sealed the area off and warned people from the outside, for their own safety not to come in, due to the suspicion these people had bought.

So they kidnapped a girl? And man despite the AJK people not having a proper democracy, you guys are lucky that non-locals are not allowed to buy property and settle there. Trust me, you don't want other "Pakistanis" in your hometown.

And there's one thing common behind all these minority killings; central Punjab, the homeland of "real punjabis". We Potoharis are not Punjabi, but to others, we also get a bad name for the **** that they do in the central region. Now don't get me wrong, there are some nice and good people there, but as a nation, they also have this tyrannical mentality. Things like a mob cheering burning alive of ahmedis, burning alive submissive christian couples, parading women naked in streets etc only happens in places like Faisalabad, Gujranwala but they bring a bad name to us as well.

It seems like they prey only on the weak and defenseless. Like where were these people and this mentality when Sikhs were their rulers? After all Sikhs were a minority too compared to muslims there. It seems like they only attack people who they know won't fight back. In contrast to them, the Potoharis actively fought the Sikhs with some clans bogging them down for months. Perhaps emperor Babur was right about them(mainly jatt and gujjars) that they are "tyrants without a reason" and a "tyrannical race". He was so sickened by their bullying of the weak that he even captured a few leaders of theirs and butchered them into pieces.

My point being that instead of promoting the killings of minorities, prove your so called love for your religion by burning down the red light districts and pornographic industry found all over your homeland. Mini red light districts are found even in Sialkot, Gujranwala etc I bet.

 

[Wolfhound]

Who do you think is this Ummah?

And was it not the very same "Ummah's" pressure that forced the Lahore High Court to deface the gravestone of Abdus Salam?

You are that Ummah my dear, those nut jobs sitting in top positions wouldn't survive a day without your support. Everyone wants power, and you are the power. The zeal you display in supporting them says it all.

P.S. I hope you don't mention this "Ummah" out of Pakistan.

By ummah i mean the gobal ummah not pakistani muslims. Ummah always refers to muslims globally. No a group of stupid extremists pressurized them not the whole ummah.

 

[Bossman]

I am a Hindu, do you want to convert?

I got $$$

That is even worst , Christian still have some legs to stand on, hindus have nothing and they are teaching us morality

 

[Wolfhound]

So they kidnapped a girl? And man despite the AJK people not having a proper democracy, you guys are lucky that non-locals are not allowed to buy property and settle there. Trust me, you don't want other "Pakistanis" in your hometown.

And there's one thing common behind all these minority killings; central Punjab, the homeland of "real punjabis". We Potoharis are not Punjabi, but to others, we also get a bad name for the **** that they do in the central region. Now don't get me wrong, there are some nice and good people there, but as a nation, they also have this tyrannical mentality. Things like a mob cheering burning alive of ahmedis, burning alive submissive christian couples, parading women naked in streets etc only happens in places like Faisalabad, Gujranwala but they bring a bad name to us as well.

It seems like they prey only on the weak and defenseless. Like where were these people and this mentality when Sikhs were their rulers? After all Sikhs were a minority too compared to muslims there. It seems like they only attack people who they know won't fight back. In contrast to them, the Potoharis actively fought the Sikhs with some clans bogging them down for months. Perhaps emperor Babur was right about them(mainly jatt and gujjars) that they are "tyrants without a reason" and a "tyrannical race". He was so sickened by their bullying of the weak that he even captured a few leaders of theirs and butchered them into pieces.

My point being that instead of promoting the killings of minorities, prove your so called love for your religion by burning down the red light districts and pornographic industry found all over your homeland. Mini red light districts are found even in Sialkot, Gujranwala etc I bet.

You must belong from Islamabad? the kind of stupid mentality you have proves it.

I am a Hindu, do you want to convert?

I got $$$

If this is true go to a neutral islamic expert and see their views on everything regarding islam

 

[Not Sure]

That is even worst , Christian still have some legs to stand on, hindus have nothing and they are teaching us morality

No my friend, I can only teach immorality. In fact, I am such an expert on immorality that I can recognize it the moment I see it, no matter how subtle the phenomenon. So you see, I was only telling the other guy where the immorality lies.

What he would do with this information is all up to him. I don't tell anyone what path to walk.

P.S. I am the worst of the lot - a hardcore atheist

By ummah i mean the gobal ummah not pakistani muslims. Ummah always refers to muslims globally. No a group of stupid extremists pressurized them not the whole ummah.

Then why do we not find any support for the Ummah in the Middle East countries?

If this is true go to a neutral islamic expert and see their views on everything regarding islam

Can you suggest one? If not, then allow me to pitch in a name and you can tell me if he is neutral.

This is Professor Dr. Muhammad Shakeel, Dean of Islamic Studies at Karachi University.

Do you think he is a neutral one?

 

[Wolfhound]

Then why do we not find any support for the Ummah in the Middle East countries?



Can you suggest one? If not, then allow me to pitch in a name and you can tell me if he is neutral.

This is Professor Dr. Muhammad Shakeel, Dean of Islamic Studies at Karachi University.

Do you think he is a neutral one?

Who said that there is no support there?

Have some respect for a decesed man you stupid indian mofo!

 

[Bossman]

Then why do we not find any support for the Ummah in the Middle East countries?

I think you are blind and don't see the writing on the wall. The only superpower is $hitting bricks because of the changes which are happening across the Islamic world, for good or bad, and you say there is no support for the concept of Ummah. It will takes decades and centuries for this change to role out. Stop looking at the world only from a western perspective. There are other truths out there.

 

[Not Sure]

Who said that there is no support there?

Have some respect for a decesed man you stupid indian mofo!

Whom I choose to respect and whom I don't, shouldn't be your concern. Just showing you where your "neutral" Ulemas dwell. Certainly not on this planet.

Do not quote me anymore please, and good luck with your country, Mr. mofo.

I think you are blind and don't see the writing on the wall. The only superpower is $hitting bricks because of the changes which are happening across the Islamic world, for good or bad, and you say there is no support for the concept of Ummah. It will takes decades and centuries for this change to role out. Stop looking at the world only from a western perspective. There are other truths out there.

Dude the support is for Khilafat, for a Khalifa... not for Ummah

You know the difference, right?