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Right, then lets not talk about Izzrael and Pakistan who both were created by the fall of British Empire. Invaders or not its still negates what you said.....In all fairness the rule was taken from Muslims and not Hindus. So by creating Pakistan they didn't do us any special favours.
Now kindly think of something else to defend your masters.

Now I know what you are inferring - Learn your history - Muslim rule lost prominence after the death of Aurangazeb in 1707 while the British through East India Company setup its rule in Bengal after the Battle of Plassey in 1757. Maratha empire and Sikh empire were significant forces in the 1700s. So you can't claim that the land was taken from muslims by British. Also learn about the Anglo-Maratha wars which helped British consolidate their position in India after 1757.
 
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To much splitting hairs in here.To sum it up quite simply in real life terms,right now it's the weekend here,the weather is nice,sun is shining and i'm going out with my girlfriend and friends.I will find myself truly unhappy if i get shanked by an imported barbarian on the street.
 
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Mate, although I do agree with your simplistic approach, it however isn't as simple as you put it. Now look at all what you said from another angle: Who started all this treachery in the first place (3rd decade into it), and is still doing so playing the victim card? US of A (way of life + life as we know it + our fundamental rights + our friends in the region = none of these words mean crap). You surely couldn't have missed that?

Now, if we want to progress any further, we, first of all we have to agree that it has nothing to do with religion of nations, it's all about resources. It's just a new way of doing business, and America does it best. Wouldn't you agree?

The Muslims( most of them ) are not happy!

They're not happy in Gaza.
They're not happy in Egypt.
They're not happy in Libya.
They're not happy in Morocco.

They're not happy in Iran.
They're not happy in Iraq.
They're not happy in Yemen.
They're not happy in Afghanistan.
They're not happy in Pakistan.
They're not happy in Syria.
They're not happy in Lebanon.


So, where are they happy?
They're happy in Australia.
They're happy in England.
They're happy in France.
They're happy in Italy.
They're happy in Germany.
They're happy in Sweden.
They're happy in Norway.
They're happy in the USA.
They're happy in every country that is not
Islamic!
And who do they blame?
Not Islam.
Not their leadership.
Not themselves.


THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE
HAPPY IN!
AND THEY WANT TO CHANGE THEM TO BE
LIKE THE COUNTRY THEY CAME FROM,
WHERE THEY WERE SO UNHAPPY.




Can you fathom out the intelligence of
this?



Double Standards Again My nigga ??

And a request , Stop Playing "Victim " over and over and over again like a broken record .

This "victim" card won't get you anywhere .


And yeah

RIP to everyone who've been killed murdered around the world. No one deserves this. RIP to the Soldier. and also RIP to the Afghan kid.
 
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have you not taken land from Muslims and given it to the Jews? displacing many losing their homes and now being tortured and abused currently by Israel.

What does Palestine have now?

Palestine in the first place should have never been given to the Jews if Westerners loved them so much why not make some place for them in their countries?

You have a core problem, a gold vain of wrongness that runs through all your posts. It's the fact that you are deeply ignorant about history. not just Jewish/Israeli history, but in general. As a result your conclusions are obviously wrong. I might address the other misinformation in your post later but right now I'll just do with the part about Israel.

No one displaced Arabs from Israel, before the Jews came back to Israel the land was pretty much barren. The numbers of Jews and Arabs living in this land before the last couple of centuries was similar (the Zionist movement and the Jewish immigration started in the 19th century). Most of the Arabs that call themselves Palestinians now are decedents of immigrants into Israel, just like the most of the Jews.

I'll re post what I wrote before, since there was hardly any disputation to this in the other thread:

This is not others' land, It is the Jews land. Even after the Arabs conquered this land it has never been more than a deprived province of some other greater empire. The Jews are the only existing people who have ever had a sovereign nation in this land, and they did so 3 (!) times before the establishment of Israel.
The Jews originated from the middle east and were dispersed by force.
Through the years the Jews living abroad were hoping and praying to come back to their land, Israel. They just lacked the military might to take it back from the Crusaders or the Arabs/Ottoman empire.
The name Palestine was given by the Roman as punishment to the Jews after their rebellion against Rome, it was way before the Arabs left the Arab peninsula. The name Palestine has nothing to do with Arabs historically and has everything to do with Jews. The name itself was taken from the Pilistinians, people who came to Israel from Greece and Crete, they had blue eyes and light skin, nothing to do genetically with Arabs. They left Israel before 0 AD.

The vast majority of the Jewish holly places are in the land of Israel, while the majority of the Muslim holy places are elsewhere through the Arab world. Jerusalem is the Jewish most holy place, Temple mount more specifically.
While for the Muslims it is Mecca followed by Medina, both not in Israel.

Denying the deep connection of the Jews to Israel is being completely ignorant of the history of the region and this land.

There were always Jews living in the land of Israel, even though they suffered massacres and other disasters. Before the start of the Zionist movement in the 19th century most of the land of Israel was barren and empty, few people lived here. Before the establishment of Israel both the Jews and the Arabs living here were called Palestinians, there was no such thing as Palestinians people. Most of the nowadays Palestinians are decedents of immigrants who came here in the 19th and 20th century, just like the Jews. This is very well documented, claiming otherwise is just plain lie and an attempt to rewrite history.

A compilation of many studies of both the Jewish and Arab immigration into Israel following the Zionist movement:

Free Palestine, and we will conquer the world - YouTube

Hamas minister of interior refers to the origins of many nowadays Palestinians:

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Another thing, Israel was not established by European powers but by Jews. The British mandate has done as much as possible to curb the Jewish immigration to Israel while doing nothing like that to the Arab immigration. Check out the White books. The British build detention camps in Cyprus and deported there Jewish immigrants, they returned ships with Jews immigrants back to Europe:

The white paper limited official Jewish immigration to a much greater degree. The paper's tone was decidedly anti-Zionist since several of its institutions were severely criticized

The Third white book has severely limited Arabs to sell land to the Jews, in effect Jews could only buy land in 5% of the area:

"The Reports of several expert Commissions have indicated that, owing to the natural growth of the Arab population and the steady sale in recent years of Arab land to Jews, there is now in certain areas no room for further transfers of Arab land {...} the High Commissioner will be given general powers to prohibit and regulate transfers of land.'

In Zone A, consisting of about 63 percent of the country including the stony hills, land transfers save to a Palestinian Arab were in general forbidden. In Zone B. consisting of about 32 percent of the country, transfers from a Palestinian Arab save to another Palestinian Arab were severely restricted at the discretion of the High Commissioner. In the remainder of Palestine, consisting of about five percent of the country-which, however, land sales remained unrestricted

White Paper of 1939 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Passfield white paper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Exodus 1947 was a ship that carried Jewish emigrants from France to British Mandatory Palestine on July 11, 1947. Most of the emigrants were Holocaust survivors who had no legal immigration certificates for Palestine. Following wide media coverage, the British Royal Navy seized the ship and deported all its passengers back to Europe.

SS Exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Cyprus internment camps were camps run by the British government for internment of Jews who had immigrated or attempted to immigrate to Mandatory Palestine in violation of British policy. The camps operated from August 1946 to January 1949 and in total held about 51,000 persons

Cyprus internment camps - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Farthermore once Israel was established the American State Department declared an embargo on all weapons and war material to both Jews and Arabs in Palestine. For example:
a "Skymaster" plane chartered from the U.S. to help in ferrying weapons to Palestine from Europe was forced by the FBI to return to the USA.

In contrast the major Arab armies who invaded the newly born Jewish state were British equipped, trained and supplied. The Syrian army was French-equipped.
 
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Mate, although I do agree with your simplistic approach, it however isn't as simple as you put it. Now look at all what you said from another angle: Who started all this treachery in the first place (3rd decade into it), and is still doing so playing the victim card? US of A (way of life + life as we know it + our fundamental rights + our friends in the region = none of these words mean crap). You surely couldn't have missed that?

Now, if we want to progress any further, we, first of all we have to agree that it has nothing to do with religion of nations, it's all about resources. It's just a new way of doing business, and America does it best. Wouldn't you agree?


I agree with you mate , i was just schooling another victim mentality case .
 
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Now, if we want to progress any further, we, first of all we have to agree that it has nothing to do with religion of nations, it's all about resources.

In my opinion that's not quite right either. While I agree that the simplest way to account western nations' behavior is via resources you cannot ignore that the actions taken are based on culture (in my eyes religion is part of the culture).
In dictatorships the rulers actions sometimes originate from their need to "subdue" (this word is not always accurate as there are many different cases) their people. There are many ways to do that, either via money subsidizing and grandiose projects, via force like (Hama, Syria in the 80's come to mind), religion or a fight against a common enemy.

In all countries sometimes the cause is simply stupidity or ineptitude of the person. I really don't like over simplistic approaches, they usually miss as much as they hit.

For example, how would you explain Afghanistan war by resources approach?
 
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You have a core problem, a gold vain of wrongness that runs through all your posts. It's the fact that you are deeply ignorant about history. not just Jewish/Israeli history, but in general. As a result your conclusions are obviously wrong. I might address the other misinformation in your post later but right now I'll just do with the part about Israel.

No one displaced Arabs from Israel, before the Jews came back to Israel the land was pretty much barren. The numbers of Jews and Arabs living in this land before the last couple of centuries was similar (the Zionist movement and the Jewish immigration started in the 19th century). Most of the Arabs that call themselves Palestinians now are decedents of immigrants into Israel, just like the most of the Jews.

I'll re post what I wrote before, since there was hardly any disputation to this in the other thread:

This is not others' land, It is the Jews land. Even after the Arabs conquered this land it has never been more than a deprived province of some other greater empire. The Jews are the only existing people who have ever had a sovereign nation in this land, and they did so 3 (!) times before the establishment of Israel.
The Jews originated from the middle east and were dispersed by force.
Through the years the Jews living abroad were hoping and praying to come back to their land, Israel. They just lacked the military might to take it back from the Crusaders or the Arabs/Ottoman empire.
The name Palestine was given by the Roman as punishment to the Jews after their rebellion against Rome, it was way before the Arabs left the Arab peninsula. The name Palestine has nothing to do with Arabs historically and has everything to do with Jews. The name itself was taken from the Pilistinians, people who came to Israel from Greece and Crete, they had blue eyes and light skin, nothing to do genetically with Arabs. They left Israel before 0 AD.

The vast majority of the Jewish holly places are in the land of Israel, while the majority of the Muslim holy places are elsewhere through the Arab world. Jerusalem is the Jewish most holy place, Temple mount more specifically.
While for the Muslims it is Mecca followed by Medina, both not in Israel.

Denying the deep connection of the Jews to Israel is being completely ignorant of the history of the region and this land.

There were always Jews living in the land of Israel, even though they suffered massacres and other disasters. Before the start of the Zionist movement in the 19th century most of the land of Israel was barren and empty, few people lived here. Before the establishment of Israel both the Jews and the Arabs living here were called Palestinians, there was no such thing as Palestinians people. Most of the nowadays Palestinians are decedents of immigrants who came here in the 19th and 20th century, just like the Jews. This is very well documented, claiming otherwise is just plain lie and an attempt to rewrite history.

A compilation of many studies of both the Jewish and Arab immigration into Israel following the Zionist movement:

Free Palestine, and we will conquer the world - YouTube

Hamas minister of interior refers to the origins of many nowadays Palestinians:

‫



Another thing, Israel was not established by European powers but by Jews. The British mandate has done as much as possible to curb the Jewish immigration to Israel while doing nothing like that to the Arab immigration. Check out the White books. The British build detention camps in Cyprus and deported there Jewish immigrants, they returned ships with Jews immigrants back to Europe:



The Third white book has severely limited Arabs to sell land to the Jews, in effect Jews could only buy land in 5% of the area:





White Paper of 1939 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Passfield white paper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



SS Exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Cyprus internment camps - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Farthermore once Israel was established the American State Department declared an embargo on all weapons and war material to both Jews and Arabs in Palestine. For example:
a "Skymaster" plane chartered from the U.S. to help in ferrying weapons to Palestine from Europe was forced by the FBI to return to the USA.

In contrast the major Arab armies who invaded the newly born Jewish state were British equipped, trained and supplied. The Syrian army was French-equipped.

This sums it all and everybody who is opposed to Israel should just shut themselves up....
 
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Killing done by those psychos in UK were religiously motivated where the perpetrators believed that Islam taught them so, where as Israel and US don't go around beheading people shouting hail Jesus, thus 'Islam' getting the bad name because killers use it to justify their barbaric acts and other muslims justifying them
 
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Right so don't complain about Israel


Those rulers were also invaders. Not locals. The locals are Hindus. Indian sub continent always belonged to the Hindus.

After I watched the video on how India and Pakistan were created, it's sad to see how religion could divide people of the same origin and they became sworn enemies.

To the OP, both racism and religion are irrational by definition. But in my opinion, religious fanatics is even more dangerous than racism. Racism tends to focus on one people, and contained within its own country, but religious fanatics spread throughout the world.

Why should a Muslim living in Pakistan feel they should take revenge on someone that killed another Muslim in Afghanistan? Why cannot Muslim feel the same about non-Muslim victims? Do you know how dangerous this could become if people of all other religions hold the same belief? Humanity will quickly escalate into religious wars!

Islam really need look into itself and modernize. Bigotry, no matter what's the origin, has no place in 21 century.
 
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I have to say this is quite true.

One thing every secular country should pay attention is to shut down any growth of islam religion in their own country. Trust me, you will regret if you do not do so.

The Muslims( most of them ) are not happy!

They're not happy in Gaza.
They're not happy in Egypt.
They're not happy in Libya.
They're not happy in Morocco.

They're not happy in Iran.
They're not happy in Iraq.
They're not happy in Yemen.
They're not happy in Afghanistan.
They're not happy in Pakistan.
They're not happy in Syria.
They're not happy in Lebanon.


So, where are they happy?
They're happy in Australia.
They're happy in England.
They're happy in France.
They're happy in Italy.
They're happy in Germany.
They're happy in Sweden.
They're happy in Norway.
They're happy in the USA.
They're happy in every country that is not
Islamic!
And who do they blame?
Not Islam.
Not their leadership.
Not themselves.


THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE
HAPPY IN!
AND THEY WANT TO CHANGE THEM TO BE
LIKE THE COUNTRY THEY CAME FROM,
WHERE THEY WERE SO UNHAPPY.




Can you fathom out the intelligence of
this?



Double Standards Again My nigga ??

And a request , Stop Playing "Victim " over and over and over again like a broken record .

This "victim" card won't get you anywhere .


And yeah

RIP to everyone who've been killed murdered around the world. No one deserves this. RIP to the Soldier. and also RIP to the Afghan kid.
 
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One thing is for sure, till the time muslims don't somehow achieve the power of introspection. Nothing will change.

Here's the difference,

Most Americans consider the Iraq war wrong, illegal and immoral.

Most muslims don't even admit that 9/11 was done by muslims and say it was a planned staged inside op.

This is what I am talking about.
 
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I am not going to say who fault is it that your Muslim country was destroyed (It would be 10 pages trolling if I did) Let's say we did destroy your country for argument sake. Did someone else killed someone Justify you to kill someone else?

Oh, the west have kill enough our people, and you are saying this justified you for you to kill some people too?

Then when you really do kill someone else and you come back and blame the whole western society because they force you out of your home, bomb your neighbour?

So if we live in a world like this, then.

American have the right to kills British (A la American Independence)
Mexican have the right to kill American (A la Mexican-American War)
Chinese have the right to kill Japanese (A la WW2)
Greece have the right to kill Persian (A la Greco-Persian war)
English have the right to kill French (A la 100 years war)
and so on, so forth

and the whole world have the kill right to kill each other, I am probably sure at some point any country in this world was a victim of war at some time.....

Did it make sense to you??
 
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