Does Turkey Benefit From Cold War With Israel?

[TurAr]

What he meant was that most Israelis feel the same way for the Arab nations as they do to Turkey nowadays, which is true. Your government has successfully made yourselves equal in Israeli eyes as Arabs by your support for terrorists and our enemies.

But as Turks, you will not feel an ounce animosity from Israelis.

I thought you said, "no Turks will feel animosity here in Israel"

And your government has succesfully made yourself disliked among Turks by killing our nationals in international waters. Try to see the other side of the story before accusing people with having 'groundless' hatred.

 

[Quasar]

Extra charter flights to Turkey scheduled over Passover period as Israeli tourists return - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper

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More signs that Israelis are starting to return to Turkey: Turkish charter-flight companies doubled the number of flights to and from Israel over the Passover holiday, due to the heavy demand.

 

[atatwolf]

Israeli would never get attacked because he is an Israeli in Turkey.

Only if you are a thief, mobster, spy you have to fear for your life.

There are a lot of Jews in Turkey, even last year Turkish Eurovision contestant was JEWISH. He openly said that on TV and never got attacked, raped, killed, etc.

 

[Surenas]

There are a lot of Jews in Turkey, even last year Turkish Eurovision contestant was JEWISH. He openly said that on TV and never got attacked, raped, killed, etc.

Study: 64% of Turks don't want Jewish neighbors - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper

 

[PteX]

I thought you said, "no Turks will feel animosity here in Israel"

And your government has succesfully made yourself disliked among Turks by killing our nationals in international waters. Try to see the other side of the story before accusing people with having 'groundless' hatred.

You can hate, and you can go on hating, but when that translates into outward animosity then something is quite wrong with your mentality. Especially when the mob mentality and violence come into play.

Which part did you not understand? I said that the Israeli people don't like your country as much as the Israelis do not like the Arab countries but as a Turk, you will not feel animosity. Because Israeli differentiate between the government and the people.

So unless you start cursing the Israelis for killing terrorists, no one will look oddly at you. In fact, you'd fit quite well and have a great time.

Israeli would never get attacked because he is an Israeli in Turkey.

Only if you are a thief, mobster, spy you have to fear for your life.

There are a lot of Jews in Turkey, even last year Turkish Eurovision contestant was JEWISH. He openly said that on TV and never got attacked, raped, killed, etc.

Anyone can turn into an Israeli spy if some lunatic shouts it in the middle of the street, i've seen it happen. And then the mob comes and violence follows immediately. And there is a reason why Turkish customs officers told Israelis to hide their identity while outside on the streets, because of situations i've mentioned above.

 

[atatwolf]

I thought you said, "no Turks will feel animosity here in Israel"

And your government has succesfully made yourself disliked among Turks by killing our nationals in international waters. Try to see the other side of the story before accusing people with having 'groundless' hatred.

All lot of JEwish diaspora are anti-Turkish in politics, although we saved Jewish *** multiple times in Ottoman period from Europeans. I though Jewish people were smart. One thing is sure, they don't have a sense of history or gratitude.

 

[TurAr]

You can hate, and you can go on hating, but when that translates into outward animosity then something is quite wrong with your mentality. Especially when the mob mentality and violence come into play.

Which part did you not understand? I said that the Israeli people don't like your country as much as the Israelis do not like the Arab countries but as a Turk, you will not feel animosity. Because Israeli differentiate between the government and the people.

So unless you start cursing the Israelis for killing terrorists, no one will look oddly at you. In fact, you'd fit quite well and have a great time.

I did not say i'm hating. I said, the ones who are hating have reasons and mostly has nothing to do with your religion.

Sorry, i've been studying for 20 hours without sleeping... Missed that part of your post.

 

[atatwolf]

You can hate, and you can go on hating, but when that translates into outward animosity then something is quite wrong with your mentality. Especially when the mob mentality and violence come into play.

Which part did you not understand? I said that the Israeli people don't like your country as much as the Israelis do not like the Arab countries but as a Turk, you will not feel animosity. Because Israeli differentiate between the government and the people.

So unless you start cursing the Israelis for killing terrorists, no one will look oddly at you. In fact, you'd fit quite well and have a great time.



Anyone can turn into an Israeli spy if some lunatic shouts it in the middle of the street, i've seen it happen. And then the mob comes and violence follows immediately. And there is a reason why Turkish customs officers told Israelis to hide their identity while outside on the streets, because of situations i've mentioned above.

Mob? haaha, you watched too many movies. We just call the police. We are not Arabs or Ajam (Iranian).

 

[PteX]

All lot of JEwish diaspora are anti-Turkish in politics, although we saved Jewish *** multiple times in Ottoman period from Europeans. I though Jewish people were smart. One thing is sure, they don't have a sense of history or gratitude.

What are you talking about? There are 3 honored Turks in the Righteous among the Nations. There are multiple statues honoring Turks in Israeli and abroad built by the Jews of the world.

Mob? haaha, you watched too many movies. We just call the police. We are not Arabs or Ajam (Iranian).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sivas_massacre

Just an example.

 

[TuranKhan]

Many clever Jewish people know that making enemies with Turks is not clever therefore want to repair relations.

One of them is Dr. Dan shechtman which had an interview with Turkish newspaper.
To cut it short he said we should repair relations and Israel should apologise.

 

[PteX]

Sorry, i've been studying for 20 hours without sleeping... Missed that part of your post.

It's alright, i understand. I've recently finished an 11 hour session myself.

 

[Jamaal Yelmaaz]

To be ally with zionist state Israel aganist whom?.

no more It does make sennse whichever party ruling Turkey..AKP or CHP

Israel established on the bases and ideas of zioninsm. With such a country it is impossible to be ally or freind. Frthermore, it is impossible to avoid being enemy of it in long term.

Because when the time come out each country that have land within great zionist map will be target of Israel. It is just qustion of the suitable time. As soon as Israel get appotunity he gonna to attempt to invade every part of allegedly promised holy land.
Zionists never forgo from that idea as long as they believe in zionism.
So there is no any legitimate reasons to be ally with Such country in military and politic field.

As for the point of view of religion, Islam doesnt ban any relations of humanity with Jews or other non-muslim communities. Islam also order muslims to be best and most fair side in mutual human relations with non muslims. That is why Jews and Christian live under sovereignty of various muslim states throughout history have freedom of religion since over 1400 years.

Well, What are relations of humanity?..rights of Neighboruing and citizenship, relations of mtual trades, freedom of religion, the rights of protection of life, property,honor of non-muslims by muslim states etc...

in the times of ottoman impire, in the case of any suit among theirself, Jews and christian had right of choosing two jugdment systems. one was islamic sharia and the others was theirown religous law..

So in respect of islamic religion there is no any drawback of doing businnes with jews in daily civil life.
when our prothet Hz. Mohammed(saw) died he was deptor to a jewish merchant. he had bought some wheat in return he had given jewish merchant his armored shield as mortgage until due date of payment.

In many stuffs our prothet had practised what he and God order muslims to do so in order not to feel any hesitations. Otherwise our prothet could very easily buy wheat from any muslim merchants.

 

[Ulysses]

reading these arguments between Israel and Turkey feels like watching 2 of my brothers fight.... in the background im rolling my eyes thinking "cant we just get along already"

I'm sure in time we will...

 

[Surenas]

reading these arguments between Israel and Turkey feels like watching 2 of my brothers fight.... in the background im rolling my eyes thinking "cant we just get along already"

I'm sure in time we will...

Turkish proud, and Israeli stubbornness. What can a man do about it?

 

[explorer9]

The fact of the matter is that no country in the Middle East wants to be the friend with Israel who ever the friend is will not remain the friend. The treaties are forced by Americans on Egypt, Jordan and even with Turkey they have bargained it against the NATO membership. The treaties with Egypt, Jordan & with Palestine (different factions) will not remain intact for the long time and will be naturally renegotiated or annulled.

Befriending with Israel is also less useful for the country like Turkey with 800+ billion of economy and 150+ billions $ of exports. Israel is just a 200B$ economy and Turkish Forex share with Israel is few B$ . Huge exports to other Middle Eastern countries. Thriving local defense industry and the partnership with the European companies on different joint projects. Israel is not in a position to block Turkish trade or technology transfer from Europe. They have little bargaining chips against the Turks unlike before, that is only in US not elsewhere.

The chemistry between the leadership of the country and the people to people association plays a very important role in formation and strengthening the relationship between the two states. Israel failed here too the Leadership of Turkey under the PM Erdogan does not trust the Israel and so does the majority of people.

If a new Government is formed in the Israel after the Parliamentary election and they me offer apology with other Turkish demands, but that rapprochement will make Israel a subordinate country against Turkey. The hegemony of Israel is also dwindling in the region especially after the change of guard in Egypt and will weaken further with the passage of time.

Keeping all the geopolitical factors in the mind Israel will be on the receiving end and its future seems very tattered and for that eventuality they need to blame themselves only.