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Does Pakistan society have "Self-hating Pakistanis"? What kind of narative they have?

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Marvi samad AKA liberal social worker
Late Asma jahangir
hamid mir
Mansoor ali Khan
Adnan sami (late) Pakistani
you can add other side of Maulana Fazlu rahman whos dad wasnt agree to have Pakistan but they have been enjoying elite class in Pakistani Politics
many many more

Don't ever forget Pervez Hoodbhoi, also the new "moron" in the making Jibran Nasir.
 
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Look into the 'ABCD' catagory and you will find plenty of self loathing specimen.

Btw, ABCD stands for America/Angrez Born Confused Desi. :drag:
 
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Yes here we have quite a few. Let me tag
Let me tag the walking, talking self exposition of hate. Namely @war&peace Proof? He loves Pakistan so much that he has parked his as*s in the world notorius swamp of liberalism, irreligiousism, sin, vice and capital of man fcuking man called Sweden. And he is intoxicated by it.

Guys like him are classic hypocrites. Talk one thing vote with their feet with another.
 
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Let me tag the walking, talking self exposition of hate. Namely @war&peace Proof? He loves Pakistan so much that he has parked his as*s in the world notorius swamp of liberalism, irreligiousism, sin, vice and capital of man fcuking man called Sweden. And he is intoxicated by it.

Guys like him are classic hypocrites. Talk one thing vote with their feet with another.
I don't know what is your problem. Why are you angry and getting personal all the time?
 
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If you throw something don't cry when you get a reaction. Read below.
Mate that was a question he asked and I had to reply honestly so few name that came immediately to my mind so I wrote. Nothing personal. I did not write it in anger.
 
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Don't ever forget Pervez Hoodbhoi, also the new "star" in the making Jibran Nasir.
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Great post, my friend, what are their typical narative about Pakistan?
Does they blame Imran Khan?
Or Islam? Or Pakistan culture?



My Pakistan friend, thats people I have been talk about. There is hundreds of them in Serbia too. They hate our country by enjoy rich and elite life in Serbia.
We have newly formed society called liberal or open minded these species growing like a curse.
Sad thing about these people they live and just critise the nation religion which is most important and very sensitive part in Pakistan,in the name of right to speak they commit or speard hate against nation and hit where normal people dont expect.
If people like them dont like their own culture why dont they move out right.. but they dont they clearly on someones agenda cuz they do nothing good other than spreading foreign agenda.
 
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Mate that was a question he asked and I had to reply honestly so few name that came immediately to my mind so I wrote.
What I wrote was the first thing that came to my mind and with truth in mind I wrote it as is. You live in Sweden and from that one can draw logical inferances. And you think your only able to be honest? What sort of bloated Swedish Ikea sized ego you supporting?

Nothing personal.
Ditto. I don't know you either. All I know is you chose to live in sea of sin and legalized man fucking country.

I did not write it in anger.
And you think I was angry? I am a very cool prerson with a pulse that hovers at 55 and blood pressure of athletes ~ low as it gets. But I can be incisive.

Peace. But everything I said stands. You are a self hater to your views.
 
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What I wrote was the first thing that came to my mind and with truth in mind I wrote it as is. You live in Sweden and from that one can draw logical inferances. And you think your only able to be honest? What sort of bloated Swedish Ikea sized ego you supporting?

Ditto. I don't know you either. All I know is you chose to live in sea of sin and legalized man fucking country.

And you think I was angry? I am a very cool prerson with a pulse that hovers at 55 and blood pressure of athletes ~ low as it gets. But I can be incisive.

Peace. But everything I said stands. You are a self hater to your views.
I think the ageing has its toll on you. You are getting senile and negative day by day even though I have often supported and ignored your rants and totally unprovoked personal attacks.
A simple advice, go out breathe in fresh air, relax and try to mend your relations with your friends & family.
 
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Pakistan is not to blame it us we people dont do to serve the country every body has one agenda kkep yourself safe if un justice haooen close eyes ears mouth no matter who does it wrong is always wrong islam teaches us infact islam is only religion who started against wrong doings in societys AZ nd fight for your rights as a citizen
 
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There is rise of "self hating people" all over the eastern world.
I am familar with self hating Serbs, Jews, Russians, Turks, but is there self hating Pakistanis, or to be more precise, Pakistani liberals who blame Pakistani culture and religion for bad condition of Pakistan society and economy?

@Desert Fox
I guess you are familiar with this concept in Europe? Do you see this trend in Pakistan society?
If Pakistanis don't hate on the many flaws the country and its people has, then we are doomed. I do not mean a random hatred, but one that is based on reality, that is that we have problems with corruption, hygiene, education, lack of desire to better ourselves and so on.
Unfortunately I see a lot of my fellow Pakistanis being completely ignorant of these and I hate it. We settle for far less than what we can be and this really pisses me off.

I think I have been branded a self hating Pakistani before by someone on this forum.
 
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Well its about being self critical of problems not self hate per se , I want Pakistan to be secular and liberal society but I also love Pakistan to core.
1000% this!!

There is a difference between toads like Tarek Fatha who hates Pakistan, and people who criticize it because they love it.
 
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I think the ageing has its toll on you. You are getting senile and negative day by day even though I have often supported and ignored your rants and totally unprovoked personal attacks.
A simple advice, go out breathe in fresh air, relax and try to mend your relations with your friends & family.
I am old man so I find PDF as timepass. I have had a very eventful life. But your a young guy. Go get a life before you finf one day your a old fart like me. When I was young I would have killed myself rather then sit behind a PC knobbing away into cyberspace.
 
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