Yzd Khalifa
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About the EU,i have stated many times we should not try to enter in my posts about the membership.
Just bussiness and thats it.
The GCC,
Are you sure you want us to get more involved?
I mean there are many Arabs who rather not see us involved in Arab affairs,we could just have a defence pact with various Arab countries,which doesnt mean something negative.
Some Arabs think we want a neo Ottoman empire if you get what i mean.
I think we are at a point in history(making)that we have a established a good base for further cooperation.
The future looks bright.
People here know nothing! And most comments are fueled with patriotism. Have some popcorn and a coke, and listen.
I have seen some Arabs who dislike Turkey " due to its involvement in the region " at the same time I have seen some Turks who dislike the Arabs for being Arab ,and neither is correct and both are immature.
Saudi Arabia wouldn't be the sole country to benefit from its relation with Turkey or vice versa, or at a large extent Pakistan.
You did put your finger at the bottom by the way, Yes, it's a historic moment. Basically, these folks are trying to decrease their dependance on the West ,so they can rely on themselves later on. Neither Turkey or Pakistan or Saudi Arabia can survive relying on the West forever.
What people don't seem to know is that Turkey is already getting involved in these issues. For your information, when the Bahrain government tried to get its hands on some SALWs, they didn't ask the US for help or the UK, it was Turkey and KSA who armed them to the teeth and trained their personnels. Clearly, both countries know who's behind the civil unrest in Bahrain ,and won't allow such incident to happen again.
In 2020, KSA will begin exporting its brand-new solar panel systems , a program that cost above $8 billion and Turkey will be the very first customer of it, It's a %100 Saudi-made by KACST and will save a lot of energy for Turkey.
Similarly, KSA will also benefit from Turkey in its military industry manufactures for sure ,so the relation between both will exceed the economic level and head toward industrialization.
This is just an example to give you folks the heads-up that the Saudi-Turkish relations are WAY beyond free-trades and geopolitical objectives.
I have spoken with a few Turkish politicians and I can see that there is a lot in common between both countries. In addition to that, Turkey is a bit concerned about its own problems such as the Kurdish rebels and containing Iran and the GCC will unequivocally provide a safe-guard for her in the future to the challenges they might face. For us the Saudis, the Turkish sovereignty is a red line ,period.
So yeah it's more like of a dynamic relation for all of us, a stable Turkey means a stable Jordan and the circle goes on and on.
They are playing a political game to help us all and I must stress out that our friends and allies will also benefit from it such as Pakistan and Jordan.
@Yzd Khalifa
To be honest I personally think that the goal of Turkey wanting to join the EU was long gone and with the western crisis (as I like to call it since they are only in a crisis and not the world) it is really finished.
Ofcourse we must maintain trade relations with the EU, but there is a huge market in the Middle-East and north africa that somehow former government's neglected.
Now that the relations with these regions are at an alltime high, I personally project that this gap will be closed in the near future.
Was Turkey discriminated against? Yes, then the EU can F u c k off by now. We told off the French not to bring the stupid Arminian genocide upon Turkey or things will get ugly. Turkey is very important to us ..
There is no other way than to form an military pact between Turkey, KSA, Egypt and other muslim countries to assemble stabilization in ME againist destabilization policy by Isral, Iran, US and Uk...Otherwise ongoing conflicts in ME continue till an uncertain time...
US is not true and cordial ally of GCCs. US deliberately left Iraq for Iran in order to enhence power balance in favor of iran so that secterian war between muslims could be more bloody and destructive...
US and West neihter want so powerful an Iran that be uncontrolable nor want a weak Iran that couldnt threaten GCCs
Because if the threat by Iran was not exist then US wouldnt establish many military bases in the Gulf and couldnt sell GCCs weapons everyear by tens billion of dollars..
We don't count on the US. Yes, they have given Iraq to Iran on a plate of gold.
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