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Problem for your regression is you need to compare to a reference (say developing country average, preferably around the time of same stage of per capita consumption as BD is now) to make sense of the time elapse. Which you conveniently have not done (and you will not do because BD will come out terrible). Not to mention the pitiful base effect in play for BD. Anything under 5 billion USD per year is a big failure for BD at this level of backwardness and flat growth given the huge catch up needed. Considering all of that BD certainly is stagnant in FDI (quality, directed investment).

India for example (about 10 years ago) when it was at the current level of consumption per capita as BD, was raking in 25 billion USD per year and the growth in the time frame you picked for BD was around 20% a year. BD on per capita scale would either be needing around 4 billion a year (if it were growing at that rate) but much higher level if its growing at its current FDI rate in your time frame (around 12% a year - augmented to large degree by extremely low base). In fact this is not even taking into account the lower quality of smaller FDI chunks in absolute level generally so its even worse.

India in last 3 years went from 25 billion to 45 billion a year. Bangladesh in same time period went from 1.7 billion to 2 billion.


Do you have any understanding of the BD economy?
BD does not actually encourage too much foreign investment in some sectors as it wants to grow it's own industries like electronics(Walton) and pharmaceuticals. That is the reason why these companies pretty much totally dominate a home market of 160 million people.
BD is not a completely underdeveloped country that it needs foreigners for basics like pharmaceuticals, tvs, fridges etc.
Also BD lacked in infrastructure and so this has discouraged foreign investment due to concern over power supply and efficient transport links. A quick google job will show you that BD infrastructure will be decent by the mid-2020s with all the projects currently ongoing and to be started soon.




Loans are routed through govt. If you dont understand why thats a major problem in BD case, hah ok. Just watch the fun. We all know where BD govt is institutionally rated and what the corruption metrics are.

FDI on other hand is routed through private enterprise. It is qualitatively on another scale....given it has to be profit bearing and thus tied to mechanisms operating a lot better than those found in a sub 10% corruption percentile (in world rankings) govt.

I am perplexed at why you think that extremely low-interest loans that are being used to build physical infrastructure to raise the economic activities is not a good thing just because the loans are going through BD government?
These loans all come with scrutiny as regards corruption and that is why the Word Bank refused to give the loan to BD for the Padma Bridge at the start of the decade.
While you were banned a BD government minister did not accept a bribe from a Chinese company and that company has now been blacklisted in BD. Your opinion on BD government corruption is just your opinion.



No one really cares what a bad junk rating debt/gdp ratio country has, that too one within the GDDS structure of IMF. Are the countries worse off (yes a few exist) than Bangladesh doing better because of their even smaller debt/GDP ratio?

It basically is the ceiling/proxy on offer by the world debt market given the circumstances of the country. Who knows what the BD debt/GDP would be if it had a non-junk credit rating? It would depend on the mercantile/consumer development ratio and many other factors, but its all hypothetical because the current reality is something else all together.

India has 3 times less debt/GDP than Japan and plenty of other richer countries. So your non-existent seignioriage, LDC quota dependent country is a tiny rice grain in this conversation to being with. If you want to enter that convo, turn investment grade first for at least a decade, then we will talk. Till then its a case of getting cut off from options, rather than you consciously forgoing it.


How is BD's credit rating that much worse than India's:

https://tradingeconomics.com/bangladesh/rating

S&P puts BD at BB- and India at BBB-. Not much difference there.

BD government spent only 15% of it's budget on debt repayment in 2016-2017 fiscal. In contrast India spent 25% of it's budget last fiscal on paying back debt.

With the credit rating of both countries being similar and BD having more scope to pay back debt, BD can easily go out and take 10s of billions of dollars of loans but BD chooses not to do this.
 
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Do you have any understanding of the BD economy?
BD does not actually encourage too much foreign investment in some sectors as it wants to grow it's own industries like electronics(Walton) and pharmaceuticals. That is the reason why these companies pretty much totally dominate a home market of 160 million people.
BD is not a completely underdeveloped country that it needs foreigners for basics like pharmaceuticals, tvs, fridges etc.
Also BD lacked in infrastructure and so this has discouraged foreign investment due to concern over power supply and efficient transport links. A quick google job will show you that BD infrastructure will be decent by the mid-2020s with all the projects currently ongoing and to be started soon.

Ah right fox and the sour grapes. If you dont get anywhere near something you ought to (with the image of what BD ought to be rather than what it is)....its all part of some purpose lol. Just like how BD consumes 14 times less the vehicles India does on per capita basis....but the argument is "but but consumption is more expensive/higher quality blah blah in BD because of govt controls"....and then you all run away when asked (for the sake of argument), so is it to the tune of 14 times such (to fit a reasonable price elasticity curve)?

"Walton and pharmaceuticals" are negligible in production, exports or any marker of note (its still hillarious reading what was projected for Walton export levels by now).....but you want to grow them by shielding them from international investment?...even after it hasnt worked for 3+ years now? Or is the reason BD gets laughed out of the room when it gets brought up by chance in front of even the smallest of VC meetings lol?

I am perplexed at why you think that extremely low-interest loans that are being used to build physical infrastructure to raise the economic activities is not a good thing just because the loans are going through BD government?

Anything the BD govt touches is polluted. BD govt cant even own up to basic issues in its delivery/measurement as seen in ESCAP. It is stagnant (and terribly low) in the corruption ranking for 4 years plus now. BD ranking in govt related subcomponents in logistics performance index (since you are talking physical infrastructure) is TERRIBLE. Again far far behind ( whole 1/6th of a percentile) what India was even a decade ago when the index started (and BD improves by only 7% from the 2007 - 2016 time period with this much catch up ahead of it...whereas India improved by 11%, about the same for Pakistan). I know how bad this issue is personally in India, to think there's a govt that is both far behind in realisation and improvement rate of such is quite unthinkable. If you are behind, you should be improving faster than those well ahead of you (remaining frontier distance, low base effect etc). The fact you are not illustrates quite amply how awful your govt and bureaucracy (even compared to just the region) is... period.

How is BD's credit rating that much worse than India's:

Its qualified as junk (non-investment grade) for a reason. There is big difference between BB and BBB level. Go find and read a book on it if you are so interested on the details.

BD government spent only 15% of it's budget on debt repayment in 2016-2017 fiscal. In contrast India spent 25% of it's budget last fiscal on paying back debt.

Again, this portends to how much is on offer at the buffet. BD is in a different establishment all together to begin with (first of all you are in the GDDS part of town, 2nd of all its basically a take out van on offer at best)...and you want to compare our fiscal scenarios. LOL. So what Congo or Mali is doing better than Bangladesh on this argument? India is doing lot better than Brazil?

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/GC.XPN.INTP.RV.ZS?locations=IN-BD-ML-CD

With the credit rating of both countries being similar and BD having more scope to pay back debt, BD can easily go out and take 10s of billions of dollars of loans but BD chooses not to do this.

Again they are not similar (you are junk, we are not, get this in your head given thats the first thing any VC, PI, fund manager or otherwise looks at).

Also if its so similar, Bangladesh ought to quickly and easily get to India's level right (tell me how has BD changed in the ratings over time since you are so regression oriented when it suits you)? Do it and prove it :)...then talk about it being "similar".

Oh and also get to SDDS since its so "easy/similar" seeing how you are stuck with the GDDS riffraff.
 
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Ah right fox and the sour grapes. If you dont get anywhere near something you ought to (with the image of what BD ought to be rather than what it is)....its all part of some purpose lol. Just like how BD consumes 14 times less the vehicles India does on per capita basis....but the argument is "but but consumption is more expensive/higher quality blah blah in BD because of govt controls"....and then you all run away when asked (for the sake of argument), so is it to the tune of 14 times such (to fit a reasonable price elasticity curve)?

"Walton and pharmaceuticals" are negligible in production, exports or any marker of note (its still hillarious reading what was projected for Walton export levels by now).....but you want to grow them by shielding them from international investment?...even after it hasnt worked for 3+ years now? Or is the reason BD gets laughed out of the room when it gets brought up by chance in front of even the smallest of VC meetings lol?

Car ownership - Compound wealth and heavy taxes. Also the roads are not as good as in India and Pakistan and so that further discourages people from buying cars. After all who wants to buy a car and get stuck on a traffic jam?

Try to look at stats for purchase of things like TVs and fridges and then you will get a better idea of the purchasing power. For example last year Walton alone sold around 2 million fridges in BD. Any idea what the figures are for India?

Look at below graph for 2015 that compares India and Pakistan:

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Even though India has higher GDP per capita PPP than Pakistan now, it still lacks in items like bikes, fridges and washing machines. The simple reason is that Pakistan has enjoyed higher GDP per capita than India for the first 6 decades since independence.

Walton - see the new factories for actually building mobile phones and not assembling like in India. Also Walton has a new factory to build computers now. It is really by far the best electronics company in S Asia and far better than any Indian ones.

Butt-hurt is too strong dude here:-)

Anything the BD govt touches is polluted. BD govt cant even own up to basic issues in its delivery/measurement as seen in ESCAP. It is stagnant (and terribly low) in the corruption ranking for 4 years plus now. BD ranking in govt related subcomponents in logistics performance index (since you are talking physical infrastructure) is TERRIBLE. Again far far behind ( whole 1/6th of a percentile) what India was even a decade ago when the index started (and BD improves by only 7% from the 2007 - 2016 time period with this much catch up ahead of it...whereas India improved by 11%, about the same for Pakistan). I know how bad this issue is personally in India, to think there's a govt that is both far behind in realisation and improvement rate of such is quite unthinkable. If you are behind, you should be improving faster than those well ahead of you (remaining frontier distance, low base effect etc). The fact you are not illustrates quite amply how awful your govt and bureaucracy (even compared to just the region) is... period.

Like I say these donors do not hand out loans if there is evidence of high-level corruption. This is what happened with World Bank as regards Padma Bridge at start of this decade. Why are you ignoring a BD government minister refusing a bribe from a Chinese company and then the company is now blacklisted in BD as a result? This single fact shows how BD is lowering corruption these days.


Its qualified as junk (non-investment grade) for a reason. There is big difference between BB and BBB level. Go find and read a book on it if you are so interested on the details.

You are technically correct but BD is better than Pakistan who is at B, and we know how heavily indebted Pakistan is. BD can get more loans as it can pay the money back since it only spends 15% of it's budget on debt repayments in contrast to 25% for India and Pakistan(lower credit rating than BD). Any lender would jump at the chance to lend to BD as it can afford the repayments easily. You are looking very desperate with the nonsense you are spouting here.
 
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Look at below graph for 2015 that compares India and Pakistan:

No source? How convenient. If its that riazhaq stuff again, its been thoroughly dismantled many times. Heck the average size of household in India and Pakistan (used in the sampling regime of both) is vastly different to begin with:

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If a average household in Pakistan is 50%+ larger than one in India and BD, what will be the average distortion present on ownership items based on that (assuming everything else is perfectly the same/consistent for argument sake)? Has that correction factor even been attempted to be studied? (and is it even relevant if better options for survey bounds are present?) This is why per capita is much more useful for comparison.....and that too having a standardised sampling regime (with global aggregate variables) based on that, which is what PPP is. Resolving into different methodologies, samples and discrete items (esp for developing countries especially one that is in SDDS and the other is in GDDS) is very flawed.

Like I say these donors do not hand out loans if there is evidence of high-level corruption. This is what happened with World Bank as regards Padma Bridge at start of this decade.

Uh sure they do, its not like they aren't going to get paid back the loan (+interest) because of the corruption. The corruption just takes its toll on the Bangladeshi people....like a rolling boil/simmer instead of hot boil (where the entire country defaults its payments because of grand scale mismanagement....which can be corruption based or simply policy based or many other factors).

With corruption, instead of using up 1 billion dollars for X result, you use up some multiple of it for the same result....or other way around you get multiple less result for the same amount of money. That plays in again to the atrocious low realised consumption (esp the negative multiplier effect of such if its a base logistics capex)....and overall terrible efficiency parameters of BD. If BD did lot better on its internal corruption, it would get 2 bridges for the 1 it is getting now etc...or need only half the money for the same result (or whatever the ratio is, obv its not really studied)...but its not like it would not be able to raise the loan sum on physical capex as long as it has illustrated its fiscal structure/system is predictable and reliable for outside liquidity providers. You can have a bad rotten economic/corruption etc system, but still be largely predictable on BoP/CA etc (only one in the region where the latter is starting to pose a real issue is Pakistan recently)....like I said the "cut" that BD govt takes is simply an assured amount integrated into the loan amount. The result/loan ratio is what the issue is with regards to comparing with FDI (which bypasses the clearly corrupt BD govt once approval given).

The total on offer (capital bound) to BD is more determined by the standards (in information collection and transparency and frequency on all subjects of note) its govt (public sector) has illustrated to the IMF/WB et al and accrued experience of private sector in the wider global capital markets. These both determine its credit rating and standards qualification in the financial world past the raw market dynamics it can offer. Corruption is just a transmittance filter inside Bangladesh...esp given BD has next to no financial power projection past its borders.

FDI on other hand bypasses much of this (given its private enterprise with little to no opportunity cost as far as taxpayer footprint goes) and focuses on the best proven/high frontier interest segments of BD....given a private managed entity outside BD is shouldering the full risk of investment (rather than any BD taxpayer or BD citizenry). Its scarcity in BD (and relative stagnation at such low base over the last 3 years when the argument you are making is that BD has never been better) is thus quite telling with regards to the GCF composition in BD.

Why are you ignoring a BD government minister refusing a bribe from a Chinese company and then the company is now blacklisted in BD as a result? This single fact shows how BD is lowering corruption these days.

That was good move (if done for the reason BD said it was done, rather than say some political optics)....again it helps BD internally rather than pose much impact on its foreign capital bound (one only needs to look at sensitivity for a capex surge from a credit rating improvement compared to single bribe blacklisting event).

Also one instance could be outlier...or maybe its more of a norm (given low frequency nature of the variable at hand here)....who can really say for sure? Thats why I go with the corruption perception index as some sort of overall reference....BD has much improving to do even to catch up with the region.

You are technically correct but BD is better than Pakistan who is at B, and we know how heavily indebted Pakistan is.

Yah Pakistan has taken credit rating hits precisely because of the nature of its debt and its specific persistence in relation to other markers. It certainly wasn't able to borrow this level (from the conventional global markets) at the credit rating of B and also much of the borrowing impact recently comes from China which doesnt care as much about the credit rating markers (if you look at their strategy in say Africa and how they later collect on the loans not panning out in direct ROI that was "projected").

Definitely Bangladesh has managed its BoP much better compared to Pakistan and is more wary of the cheap Chinese loans (and China is also testing waters for time being compared to Pakistan where they have gone pretty much all in w.r.t strategy). That is more policy-based (cabinet, high govt, central bank level etc) compared to in-situ internal corruption (bureaucracy pyramid etc) levels as I mentioned before.

Its a complicated formula, hence the need to compare to many more (developing) countries in this regression to account for all variables and the histories....when that is done credit rating does play a large role esp when you are in GDDS and are not going for full blown china-dependent route (but wisely want to hedge etc). If you can get to SDDS, you will be in line to get to investment grade, in fact it may even be a requirement....and that will only improve BD situation as far as capital bounds go....but that needs much reform in Bangladesh finance/banking/BBS and better experience at all levels (esp private sector) of interaction with world finance sector.

BD can get more loans as it can pay the money back since it only spends 15% of it's budget on debt repayments in contrast to 25% for India and Pakistan(lower credit rating than BD).

Its more like 20% for BD, 25% for India and 30 - 40% region (and increasing I think) for Pakistan when standardised to WB reference. This is by revenue rather than expense as denominator:

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/GC.XPN.INTP.RV.ZS?locations=IN-BD-PK

BD indeed was around 15% level about 4 years back, hence its increase to 20% in its specific case could be a problem (esp with your argument), but also be an indication it is maturing even within its specific credit rating band. Hard to say, we need a decade or two more of history and BD should aim to graduate to SDDS soon after it graduates from LDC.

That's just the govt side of things too and not very up to date....not to mention the plethora of ratios one can use (and then argue as most important). More recently, India (economy in total) is the only major one in the region that has negative transfer of external debt (more repayment than disbursement and thus diminishing the total stock payable)...probably linked in large part to FDI,FPI etc replacing need for loans that were taken previously:

http://blogs.worldbank.org/opendata/are-south-asian-countries-sinking-debt-trap

You can go have fun with some numbers here:

http://datatopics.worldbank.org/debt/ids/country/BGD
 
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