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[Harry_Thomason]

Al-ciada is there own creation, i.e they are al-ciada. They create these false bogeymen to blame all of the mess on while they underplay their own crimes. There would have been no al-ciada in Iraq had there been no Iraq invasion in the first place, so called "Operation Iraqi Freedom", as if millions of dead Iraqis and their families were "liberated".

British SAS members were caught in Iraq dressed up as insurgents planting suspicious objects on roadsides, they were imprisoned by the Iraqi police only to be rescued by their fellow comrades who blasted through the prison and removed them despite their suspicious terrorist activities.

More people were burned alive during the firestorm of Dresden in 1945 when hundreds of allied bombers were ordered to turn that city into ashes despite that city having no military installations and American and British POW's captured by the Germans were all stationed in that city yet even then they didn't hesitate to bomb Dresden to the ground. Thousands of people were literally sucked into a flaming tornado, and on top of that low flying B-17's and British bombers were gunning down anyone not killed by the fire, yet is there a memorial for that in Washington DC the way there is a Holocaust Museum in the capital of the US?

What about the 1.9 million German boys who were deliberately starved to their deaths and died in their own ***** because brave General Eisenhower decided not to give them food, shelter, or sanitation facilities and instead let them die in the open cramped barren landscape exposed to the elements, murdering them without even firing a single bullet. Perhaps Hitler wasn't such a evil anti-semite genius after all that he decided to give proper shelter, food, prison uniform, sanitation facilities to those "6 million" Jews as well as Allied POW's which he supposedly "gassed" later on (in reference to the "holocaust" of the Jews) after spending so much time and resources as well as manpower to provide them basic necessities and facilities which under the geneva law was mandatory upon all warring factions (though, these laws didn't apply to the allies or the Soviets who were sending off millions of German POW's and civilians to Gulags where they would be worked to their deaths after the war).

Are there photos and video documentaries as well as eyewitness accounts played on television and printed on mainstream newspapers 24/7 every day of the year with regards to the mistreatment of axis POW's and civilians the way the Holocaust is propagated? Are American or British people paying for the emotional and physical damage caused to thousands of Germans by there deliberate act of violence against the German civilian population as well as POW's the way Germans to this day have to pay for the supposed "genocide" of 6 million Jews to israel?

Turn on the History Channel or the Military Channel and the only thing you see is Hitler's face 24/7 and about how the "evil Germans committed the most heinous crime in the history of mankind" even though Bolshevik Communist Jews (who were Zionist Atheists) butchered and starved more than 60 million Russians, Ukrainians, Poles, Cossacks, and countless other nations/ethnicities to their deaths but of course we will never hear, read, or watch anything about that or anything related to it from the mainstream media unless of course we do our own independent research.

My point is, they will do it in the time of war and simply dismiss it as "collateral damage" and a few "oh, we're sorry, here's a few hundred bucks", only to repeat it again and not give two sh!ts about the lives they have ruined because they know they are the tough ones and they are in charge. They don't have to look into the eyes of their victims when they are miles away firing artillery barrages or carrying out airstrikes from thousands of feet above.

Great post. Most people dont know much about history except abridged version in schools and media, which always goes along "official line".

In reality, as much as Hitler is demonized, he wasnt worse than Stalin or other "great leaders" of the past. Alies committed so many crimes against humanity, its abomination most people never heard about it.

Therefore its good people like you mention it, hopefully enlightening some curious souls in the process.

 

[The SC]

I agree with the rest of your post but the bold. I don't think Iranian Generals and top commander would make such a decision in sending millions of men to their deaths against high-tech American, israeli, and GCC weapons. During the Iran-Iraq war Saddam only had Soviet monkey model Tanks, not to mention he wasn't using them in armored formations to spearhead into enemy lines but rather as entrenched artillery pieces, the same was the case with other Soviet weapons he purchased, they were all second hand downgraded weapons and the Iraqis didn't even know how to employ them properly. The only potent weapons in Iraqi arsenal during the Iran-Iraq war were the few French equipment they had like the Mirage F-1 and a few ATGM's of French origin. Iraq wasn't getting the best of the best, their T-72's only had a 100 round life after which they became inoperable.

Therefore Iran's human wave tactic worked against obsolete Iraqi Tanks and soldiers who weren't even deployed in the proper manner, though still at a high cost. It was rather a complete mess and instead of a modern warfare it become a WWI trench warfare like combat where troops would swarm and overwhelm a certain enemy held trench or hill, where Tanks were used as artillery rather than spearheading into enemy held territory.

I'm sure the Iranian have learned quite a lot from the GWI and GWII as well as Operation Enduring Freedom and have employed training, tactics, and weaponry accordingly.

And some people still say that Iraq had the 4th most powerful army of the world, they just forgot to add "Obsolete" before the word "army", not to speak about the troops low moral (for fighting other Muslims) nor their poor training, so all in all Iraq had a very few -4- highly trained divisions called the Republican guards (the only voluntary recruited forces, all with university degrees) mostly to protect the regime, the rest were low moral soldiers (since Iraq enjoyed a high standard of living, recruiting soldiers had to be compulsory which was not very welcomed by the population and youth in particular, the same as we see now in the GCC countries, but with more prudence, avoiding the compulsory recruitments altogether) with some basic military training at best. And this is with what Iraq had faced the US and the coalition forces too, so the big credit that is claimed by western countries about destroying the 4th strongest army in the world were but very doubtful, and mere blatant lies.

Concerning Iran, everyone knows that in 1980 (barely one year after the Islamic revolution, and while the purges were still going on internally), Iran was still fighting a bitter internal fight against the Shah left overs in every aspect of life, to establish itself as a new totally rejuvenated country.
So the Iraqi attack was timely for Kuwait (to abort the Iraqi UN claim on it) and its western masters the US and UK whom manipulated and convinced Saddam -after a thorough study of Saddam' psychological profile- (with his grandiose and self boosting "Quadissiya" against the Persians as a self boosting motto -by the way he was a communist -, like if we were still living at the time of Persia and the beginning of Islam) through some other Proxy Arab states (very tiny ones, but with huge investments in the West ).
But for Iran it came as a total shock and disbelief, not only they had no bad intentions against Iraq or GCC states, but they were also busy with their internal affairs.
So the war was imposed (by the west) on both parts one (Iraq) through proxies and on Iran by transitivity resulting from the stupidity of the first.
Iran responded with what it could and as lion hearted people they fought a forced war and.............................................................................................................WON
Today, Iran is an advanced country; very close to the western self-definition of advanced, but more advanced on the social level than the most self claimed democracies, be it eastern or western.
Iraq could have been as advanced as Iran today, but reality is different than "could have been", what is left for Iraq is the Future, and God willing it will advance rapidly in all fields of life.

 

[The SC]

US assures Israel of 'contingency plans' to attack Iran if talks fail:

US National Security Adviser Tom Donilon has informed Israel of Washington's ‘contingency plans’ for a possible attack on Iran, should the negotiations between Tehran and the P5+1 fail, an Israeli paper says.


The Israeli daily Haaretz reported on Sunday that US President Barack Obama's national security adviser briefed Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu about the plan during his visit to Tel Aviv two weeks ago.

Citing a senior American official who spoke on the condition of anonymity, the report said Donilon has assured the Israeli premier that the US “is seriously preparing for the possibility that negotiations will reach a dead end and military action will become necessary.”


Donilon also shared information on US weaponry and military capabilities for dealing with Iran's nuclear facilities.

Last week, Secretary of US Air Force Michael Donley said the force’s new bunker buster bombs, each weighing 15 tons, were ready to be used in an attack.

According to the report, these bombs are intended for fortified bunkers.

Meanwhile, Israel’s Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman has told EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton that the ‘stalled talks proved that the time had come to move from talk to action to stop Iran.’

However, Ashton, who is scheduled to meet Secretary of Iran’s Supreme National Security Council in the coming days, said she was still hopeful the standoff could be resolved diplomatically

Washington and Tel Aviv have repeatedly threatened Tehran with a military strike to force it to halt its nuclear energy program, claimed by the duo to have been directed towards the acquisition of military nuclear capability.

But Iran has dismissed the allegations and the threats, pledging a crushing response to any attack on its soil.

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Reality:

Press TV has conducted an interview with Mohammad Marandi, professor at the University of Tehran, to further discuss the issue. The following is an approximate transcript of the interview.

Press TV: I’d like to ask you your assessment of such news coming out about preparations for a military strike on Iran especially in context of the upcoming November elections in the US?

Marandi:There is nothing really new in this report. The United States has always said that all options are on the table and that it has prepared plans to strike Iran if they deem it necessary.

But I think what is important really is that the United States knows quite well that the Iranian military deterrence is very powerful and contrary to what you often see in the Western media it seems clear that the Americans do take the Iranian military threat to American forces and the Persian Gulf region very seriously.


After all, the American Navy is very vulnerable to Iran’s missile defense. Iran has naval and land based capabilities through which they could strike at these American forces very rapidly.

And of course if there is conflict, the price of oil would really go through the roof and the countries that would hurt first are Western countries and of course the United States would be blamed by the international community for aggression.


So the Americans really cannot win in any military conflict.

Press TV: So then professor, what purpose does such news serve then? Is it just to appease the Israelis essentially?

Marandi: Obviously it does not serve any purpose just like the really barbaric sanctions on Iran and the embargo imposed by Western countries, the United States and the Europeans which is an attempt to strangle the Iranian economy and make ordinary Iranians suffer.

It only makes people in Iran hostile towards the United States just like American drone strikes in Somali and Pakistan, Afghanistan and other countries create anger and hostility in Yemen towards the American regime.

The Americans are an arrogant power on the decline and they are behaving in an increasingly irrational manner. So they are only creating greater hostility for themselves whether it is to appease the Israelis or it is to frighten Iranians, really does not make much of a difference.


The point is that if they had the capability to strike at Iran without facing various severe consequences, they would have already done this a long time ago.

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And another reality:

US presidential hopeful Mitt Romney will support Israel if Tel Aviv decides to launch a unilateral military attack against Iran's nuclear energy facilities, his senior campaign aide says.


"If Israel has to take action on its own, in order to stop Iran from developing the [nuclear] capability, the governor would respect that decision," Romney's senior national security aide Dan Senor told reporters on Sunday.


http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/07/29/253392/us-has-not-the-capability-to-strike-at-iran/