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[DrSomnath999]

You were supporting EFT earlier in a layman thread.. now U turn.. hahahaha...

hota hey boss ,
Dont take seriously any thing from 2 people on this world INDIAN POLITICIAN & Dr Somnath 999 (lord of 32 teeth)
BTW this pic is itself a sour grape for us now

 

[SQ8]

The "china card" has been a stupid ruse from the start to justify the MMRCA where India's neighbors are concerned.
Its been for Pakistan mainly..

 

[DrSomnath999]

Qatar and Kuwait are also interested in the Rafale.
Qatar, Kuwait interested in Rafale warplanes - Yahoo! News

Hard to say about UAE.

well now dassault would use this success to woo UAE as well but Typhoon would not leave no stone unturned to grab that deal

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UAE may or may not.. Typhoon has a pretty good chance there..

Saudi already has..

Also, PAF & SaudiAF carries out joint exercises quite often.

And, also, even if I did bring in this angle, it actually would not be that big a issue (that is, if PAF has some good look into these ACs).

but what if rafale wins

 

[Abingdonboy]

I dont think so - the UAE will soon purchase 60 odd rafale and the PAF has good relations with them as well - so they can thoroughly investigate the Rafale too in near future.

No matter how good relations are nations don't just let other nations thoroughly evaluate their warplanes. Not to mention UAE aren't stupid, they are continuously improving relations with India and would be unlikely to favour Pakistan over India in this circumstance. This is a myth Pakistani members like to assert.

 

[Firemaster]

hota hey boss ,
Dont take seriously any thing from 2 people on this world INDIAN POLITICIAN & Dr Somnath 999 (lord of 32 teeth)
BTW this pic is itself a sour grape for us now

Abey Pehle ek baaat clear ker de Tu LAYMAN hai ya fir LORD OF ....

 

[Abingdonboy]

The "china card" has been a stupid ruse from the start to justify the MMRCA where India's neighbors are concerned.
Its been for Pakistan mainly..

I'd have to strongly disagree. India could easily take on PAF without the MMRCA with the MKI, UPG M2k, UPG MIG-29 LCA ,etc and soon FGFA/PAK-FA. The MMRCA is purely to fill a gap in the IAF. Like has been constantly exerted by top Indian military brass, the Indian armed forces ARE NOT opponent centred but theatre centred. As such the need was seen by the IAF some time ago to have an MMRCA complement its fleet for whatever the IAF were asked to do.


You can't keep saying such things, Pakistan isn't the centre of the universe and I think India has far moved on from seeing Pakistan as the sole threat to her.

 

[DrSomnath999]

No matter how good relations are nations don't just let other nations thoroughly evaluate their warplanes. Not to mention UAE aren't stupid, they are continuously improving relations with India and would be unlikely to favour Pakistan over India in this circumstance. This is a myth Pakistani members like to assert.

well if that is the case pakistan also can evaluate SU 30 MKK/j11 from china & can learn many things .I agree every platform is
different for different countries .

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[Kazhugu]

The "china card" has been a stupid ruse from the start to justify the MMRCA where India's neighbors are concerned.
Its been for Pakistan mainly..

rafale is overkill for paf....when even the paf has no or scant answers to the mki (& heavily upgraded mig 29 smts and mirage 2000s) and with the induction of fgfa in this decade...

the decision for going for mrca is to bolster the air defence against chinese where our only hope is to match them qualitatively and to fill dwindling squadron numbers...

 

[Abingdonboy]

well if that is the case pakistan also can evaluate SU 30 MKK/j11 from china & can learn many things .I agree every platform is
different for different countries .

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Like you've stated, the SU-30 MKI is VERY different to the MKK, it is FAR more advanced with a better radar, avionics and 3D TVC. Not to mention with the soon to be implemented "SUPER 30 MKI" UPG will further increase the depth of differences between the two, soon you won't even be able to compare the MKK to the MKI.

 

[DrSomnath999]

The "china card" has been a stupid ruse from the start to justify the MMRCA where India's neighbors are concerned.
Its been for Pakistan mainly..

well that is the problem with pakistan they think india has only 1 enemy & is one nation centric .But the fact is India 's aging MIG 21 fleet needs replacement for the sake of saving lives of our pilots so MMRCA is badly needed .

 

[anathema]

No matter how good relations are nations don't just let other nations thoroughly evaluate their warplanes. Not to mention UAE aren't stupid, they are continuously improving relations with India and would be unlikely to favour Pakistan over India in this circumstance. This is a myth Pakistani members like to assert.

This is no myth Abingdonboy as Jon pointed out - it is a definite possibility that we have to be well prepared off. Pakistanis do depute instructors , carry joint excercises with Saudis. In the event - Saudis get Rafale - Pakistanis (Chinese) will be very well aware of its capabilities as time passes by. Fighter evaluation at a detailed level might not be possible - however if PAF pilots gets hands on this machine then pretty well sure that inputs/notes are going to pass to GHQ. Even though relations will be improving with India - there is no away that Saudis will publicly annouce this arrangement for India to raise a ruckus.

 

[DrSomnath999]

Like you've stated, the SU-30 MKI is VERY different to the MKK, it is FAR more advanced with a better radar, avionics and 3D TVC. Not to mention with the soon to be implemented "SUPER 30 MKI" UPG will further increase the depth of differences between the two, soon you won't even be able to compare the MKK to the MKI.

i know it bro but i was giving an eaxmple to prove brother Hembo's thinking as wrong as similar platform doesnt mean u can acquire
any information by just inspecting it

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This is no myth Abingdonboy as Jon pointed out - it is a definite possibility that we have to be well prepared off. Pakistanis do depute instructors , carry joint excercises with Saudis. In the event - Saudis get Rafale - Pakistanis (Chinese) will be very well aware of its capabilities as time passes by. Fighter evaluation at a detailed level might not be possible - however if PAF pilots gets hands on this machine then pretty well sure that inputs/notes are going to pass to GHQ. Even though relations will be improving with India - there is no away that Saudis will publicly annouce this arrangement for India to raise a ruckus.

but mate saudis have EF 2000 typhoon they dont have rafale

 

[anathema]

but mate saudis have EF 2000 typhoon they dont have rafale

Apologies - I meant UAE - i always end of confusing Saudi's and UAE

 

[Abingdonboy]

Apologies - I meant UAE - i always end of confusing Saudi's and UAE

Exactly, my points still stand.

 

[anoop]

since there is news of additional fighter planes there is increase in demands from various quarters to include those which lost race in the initial phase of MMRCA specially those amercian one arguing that american are providing us with nuclear and space advance technologies. i just wanna ask why we should buy(considers) american plane just because america is providing us with all those technologies. is america providing those technology free to us . no they are charging and making big good bucks. even pakistan gets something on soft loan but not free. so its better to buy from those which provides lucrative deal then those which comes with string attached.buying american one or any other other then present selected one aka Rafale would stupid as would increase expenditure on infrastructure plus these wont come cheap on account of their small number. so better option would be to stick the selected