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Precisely my point. So was UPA's deal with Augusta Westlands where we paid money in advance so that the kickbacks can be sorted out before delivering the Helis. Now the whole deal stands cancelled.. & no word about the lost money!
list is endless and those who dint paid money in advance were blacklisted just look at the misrable goof up about that ammunation factory in bihar before the end of UPA 1 tenure have you heared of it ever since trust me MRCA if had been cleared would have had the same fate like half the money given and then after few months the firm got blcklisted and the earnest money given was no where to be seen ever since :hitwall:
 
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list is endless and those who dint paid money in advance were blacklisted just look at the misrable goof up about that ammunation factory in bihar before the end of UPA 1 tenure have you heared of it ever since trust me MRCA if had been cleared would have had the same fate like half the money given and then after few months the firm got blcklisted and the earnest money given was no where to be seen ever since :hitwall:
Welcome guru bhai..good to see you back in action ...
 
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An mou has been signed regarding Rafael between Indian DM and French DM. Watching live on DDnews!!!!!!

Except some price negotiation technicalities all IGA has been achieved: PM Narendra Modi
 
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http://www.rediff.com/news/special/revealed-price-is-holding-up-the-rafale-deal/20160126.htm

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IMAGE: India won't pay more than $7 billion for 36 Rafale aircraft. The French want $11 billion.


Major differences over price has held up the much anticipated contract worth at least more than $7 billion that India was to sign with French aviation major Dassault to buy 36 Rafale multi-role combat jets for the Indian Air Force, even as visiting French President Francois Hollande and Prime Minister Narendra Modi both said their governments had signed an inter-government agreement in New Delhi on Monday, January 25.

Indian government sources now indicate that it will take at least another month plus to hammer out a consensus between the two sides on how much each plane should cost.

Prime Minister Modi had announced in Paris last year that his government was scaling down the contract from the originally planned purchase of 126 fighter jets to a modest 36 planes.

Since then the two sides have been consistently trying to hammer out a solution to many contentious issues left behind by the original deal.

One of the initial hurdles was on the quantum of offsets.

While France was willing to agree to reinvest 30 per cent of the value of its contract in Indian entities to meet the offset obligations, India insisted on a 50 per cent offset clause to be met.

The French side finally agreed to invest 50 per cent of the value of its Rafale contract in India to boost the Make in India programme.

Two other tricky issues, however, needed to be sorted out before the actual contract document was ready to be signed.

One, India wanted a sovereign guarantee from the French government as collateral. Paris was, however, reportedly willing to give only a letter of guarantee from President Hollande.

After initial hesitation, New Delhi has apparently agreed to accept this as a concession since the letter is being treated as part of the Inter-Government Agreement signed on Monday.


The second and most important aspect -- that of the actual cost of the aircraft, including weapons systems and avionics -- is, however, proving to be the most difficult to resolve.

While the French have been insisting that the cost of the aircraft will invariably be higher given the lower numbers that India is willing to buy now, New Delhi insists that it must get a competitive price given the fact that it did not walk out of the original tender when it could easily have done so.

While no one is officially willing to give the exact figure each side is firm on, BharatShakti.in has learnt that India is firm on not paying more than around $7 billion for the 36 aircraft, the French are quoting a much higher figure of about $11 billion.

Given the wide gap in the figures, both sides may have to walk halfway to meet each other to resolve the issue and take the contract on the threshold of its final signing in the next few weeks.

Both Hollande and Modi have invested a great deal of their own political capital in re-configuring the original unwieldy tender, and government sources insist that the contract will be signed sooner than later.

Once that happens, it will bring the curtain down on one of the world's longest running competitions to sell fighter aircraft for any air force anywhere in the world.
 
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India could spend that money on R&D and get to do with a sub par aircraft. Seller obviously wants to recoup all the money spent on R&D and milk the customer as much as possible. There is no better alternative to home grown systems.
 
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After all those headlines in these years and exhausting excitements, now two parties are back to square one? :o:

Indian air force was supposed to be the FIRST foreign user with that "Mother of all Deals". Now you can at best finish 3rd, the Egyptian AF and Qatar AF have finished their deals ahead of you without too much noise.
 
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What is the price Egypt pay for the Rafale?
A lot of things get involved in that : Maintaince of years, spares, weapons bay, etc. can you point me to a source about egypt rafale configuration?
P.S a clean configuration is cheaper than loaded.
 
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