Dassault Rafale, tender | News & Discussions [Thread 2]

[PARIKRAMA]

Which game is that??

“Immersive Dassault Aviation” Virtual Reality
Dassault Aviation presents its aircraft in virtual reality on Oculus Rift:
“Immersive Dassault Aviation”

On 12th April 2014, Dassault Aviation achieved a world first with a formation flight by a combat UAV (the nEUROn), a civil aircraft (the Falcon 7X) and a fighter aircraft (the Rafale).

Through Dassault Aviation’s combination of innovative aeronautics and digital technology, anyone can now make this formation flight in 3D virtual reality with the “Immersive Dassault Aviation” application.

The “Immersive Dassault Aviation” application was revealed for the first time at last summer’s air shows, the Paris Air Show in particular. Its goal is to present the company’s aircraft and to share its passion for aeronautics. It can now be downloaded from here.

The “Immersive Dassault Aviation” application was conceived and designed by the E-Communication team at Dassault Aviation and by the Modedemploi SOFTEAM Digital agency and places the player at the controls of the Rafale, flying over the majestic peaks of the Mont-Blanc range. The 360° 3D immersion in the midst of the aircraft is a quite stunning experience…


http://www.dassault-aviation.com/en.../immersive-dassault-aviation-virtual-reality/

 

[Grevion]

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“Immersive Dassault Aviation” Virtual Reality
Dassault Aviation presents its aircraft in virtual reality on Oculus Rift:
“Immersive Dassault Aviation”

On 12th April 2014, Dassault Aviation achieved a world first with a formation flight by a combat UAV (the nEUROn), a civil aircraft (the Falcon 7X) and a fighter aircraft (the Rafale).

Through Dassault Aviation’s combination of innovative aeronautics and digital technology, anyone can now make this formation flight in 3D virtual reality with the “Immersive Dassault Aviation” application.

The “Immersive Dassault Aviation” application was revealed for the first time at last summer’s air shows, the Paris Air Show in particular. Its goal is to present the company’s aircraft and to share its passion for aeronautics. It can now be downloaded from here.

The “Immersive Dassault Aviation” application was conceived and designed by the E-Communication team at Dassault Aviation and by the Modedemploi SOFTEAM Digital agency and places the player at the controls of the Rafale, flying over the majestic peaks of the Mont-Blanc range. The 360° 3D immersion in the midst of the aircraft is a quite stunning experience…


http://www.dassault-aviation.com/en.../immersive-dassault-aviation-virtual-reality/

So it's a flight stimulation and has no air to air or air to ground/sea mission objectives.
Like this-

 

[randomradio]

It's made for VR.

 

[DrSomnath999]

No it won't, at least not without a vector. Since ASMP wasn't sold and Brahmos-NG
having started development in May of this year only is a few years to fruition, the
above statement is a fallacy. Fr Raffys can nuke, Indian Rafales won't ... for now.



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that part is horribly wrong .
iaf have mirage 2000 before and it is nuclear capable .It doesnt have any ALCM but still it is nuclear capable.

the assumption that only a plane if possess an ALCM makes it nuclear capable is rubbish .
It needs to carry nuclear capable bomb which the IAF rafale would have the very beginning it gets inducted

CHEERS

 

[Taygibay]

I'm not sure if I understand your post above correctly, DrSomnath,
so I'll re-explain that sentence and wait for you to answer :

The jets can carry tactical nuclear warheads, and this means India's nuclear deterrence capability will be greatly improved

All fighter jets can carry nuclear bombs [ Do check how many planes can use the B-61. ]
Just about all fighters can also carry a nuclear tipped missile.
Thus singling out the Rafale must relate to it actually having the weapons.

However, since that particular weapon is not coming in that 36GtoG deal,
it does NOT mean that India's deterrence will greatly improve. At best, the
IAF now has one more AC able to drop what it always used for the purpose.

The Chinese gentleman's assertion remains a fallacy

It needs to carry nuclear capable bomb which the IAF rafale would have the very beginning it gets inducted

I take it you then have relative proof of an existing Indian nuclear weapon
that the contract state will be ported on those Rafale. If so, would you mind
sharing that information?


In general, for those who like to know, only two things are required to enable
a fighter to serve as a nuke carrier : a robust chain of command communications
ensemble so the central state retains the virtual key for firing and a weapon.
Even then, the former can be skipped if the state is irresponsible.

It really begins and ends with a weapon.

Good day to you, Tay.

 

[Picdelamirand-oil]

I'm not sure if I understand your post above correctly, DrSomnath,
so I'll re-explain that sentence and wait for you to answer :

All fighter jets can carry nuclear bombs [ Do check how many planes can use the B-61. ]
Just about all fighters can also carry a nuclear tipped missile.
Thus singling out the Rafale must relate to it actually having the weapons.

However, since that particular weapon is not coming in that 36GtoG deal,
it does NOT mean that India's deterrence will greatly improve. At best, the
IAF now has one more AC able to drop what it always used for the purpose.

The Chinese gentleman's assertion remains a fallacy


I take it you then have relative proof of an existing Indian nuclear weapon
that the contract state will be ported on those Rafale. If so, would you mind
sharing that information?


In general, for those who like to know, only two things are required to enable
a fighter to serve as a nuke carrier : a robust chain of command communications
ensemble so the central state retains the virtual key for firing and a weapon.
Even then, the former can be skipped if the state is irresponsible.

It really begins and ends with a weapon.

Good day to you, Tay.

The plane has to be immune to EMC. All Mirage and Rafale are immune to EMC.

 

[Taygibay]

The plane has to be immune to EMC. All Mirage and Rafale are immune to EMC.

Agreed and you'd be the one to remind me/us but then Gripen has EMC
but not nukes!
And I wonder what electro-magnetic compliance the Enola Gay really had?

All the best to you and yours, Tay.

P.S. Stray but related link : http://www.bits.de/NRANEU/others/END-Archive/afnwch_63-100(12).pdf

 

[Hulk]

While 36 is a good start but I hope over period of time both sides can work and get some additional numbers. I heard that the contact only has a clause for additional 18, is it true? That means we can go max up to 54.

 

[Vergennes]

Since 2015,France sold 84 Rafale to Egypt,Qatar and India amounting to about €20Bn.

 

[nang2]

Since 2015,France sold 84 Rafale to Egypt,Qatar and India amounting to about €20Bn.

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good job, France.

 

[Ankit Kumar 002]

https://twitter.com/x/status/782344135017660417

May be a decade down the line , our own nuclear powered AC and Rafale M.

@PARIKRAMA

A request for a post describing the payload and mission profile of a Rafale with pure Air to Ground Mission in our western neighbour. And also do take that Rafale will be flying from say Gwalior . And Su30MKI will be taking care of Air Superiority duties.

Also take the target as an long range SAM site protected by Quick Reaction SAMs and Modern anti aircraft artillery system , would be a nice read up for us , also showing the capabilities of Rafale.

 

[randomradio]

Agreed and you'd be the one to remind me/us but then Gripen has EMC
but not nukes!
And I wonder what electro-magnetic compliance the Enola Gay really had?

All the best to you and yours, Tay.

P.S. Stray but related link : http://www.bits.de/NRANEU/others/END-Archive/afnwch_63-100(12).pdf

Microelectronics were not invented at the time. They most likely turned off their radar and other equipment before the blast.

Gripen has EMC because it is expected to work in nuclear environment courtesy of the Soviets.

 

[RPK]

http://www.financialexpress.com/eco...ints-at-early-arrival-of-fighter-jets/401145/

Rafale deal: Manohar Parrikar hints at early arrival of fighter jets

 

[PARIKRAMA]

http://www.financialexpress.com/eco...ints-at-early-arrival-of-fighter-jets/401145/

Rafale deal: Manohar Parrikar hints at early arrival of fighter jets

Thanks @RPK

The article states

Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar on Sunday hinted at the early arrival of the Rafale fighter jets from France to India.

“As per the terms of the deal, it is 36 months, but it may come earlier slightly,” Parrikar told the media at the sidelines of Swachhta rally.

India on September 23 inked a deal for direct acquisition of 36 Rafale fighter jets from France.

French Defence Minister Yves Le Drian finalised the deal, which will cost India Euros 7.8 billion along with his Indian counterpart Manohar Parrikar.

The negotiations to buy the Rafale fighter jets came through on September 21.

The development came after the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) discussed the deal and gave the green signal to go ahead with its signing to give a crucial boost to the Indian Air Force.

In June, Parrikar had stated that the number of the fighter jets were “on path of coming to conclusion”.

Both India and France had hoped to wrap up the strategic order during French President Francois Hollande’s visit for the Republic Day celebrations in January this year, but the bargaining over the price stalled the process......

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Now look again

https://defence.pk/threads/dassault...ussions-thread-2.230070/page-380#post-8726014

DM MP confirming what source said before and posted on 24th.....

For long the engine program for the better ones should be online by 2018.. So ideally we should get a couple of jets at least .. and that is something which we have been saying time and again here..again it will also depend upon Meriganc Line scaling up as well..

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[Nilgiri]

Thanks @RPK

The article states

Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar on Sunday hinted at the early arrival of the Rafale fighter jets from France to India.

“As per the terms of the deal, it is 36 months, but it may come earlier slightly,” Parrikar told the media at the sidelines of Swachhta rally.

India on September 23 inked a deal for direct acquisition of 36 Rafale fighter jets from France.

French Defence Minister Yves Le Drian finalised the deal, which will cost India Euros 7.8 billion along with his Indian counterpart Manohar Parrikar.

The negotiations to buy the Rafale fighter jets came through on September 21.

The development came after the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) discussed the deal and gave the green signal to go ahead with its signing to give a crucial boost to the Indian Air Force.

In June, Parrikar had stated that the number of the fighter jets were “on path of coming to conclusion”.

Both India and France had hoped to wrap up the strategic order during French President Francois Hollande’s visit for the Republic Day celebrations in January this year, but the bargaining over the price stalled the process......

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Now look again


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https://defence.pk/threads/dassault...ussions-thread-2.230070/page-380#post-8726014

DM MP confirming what source said before and posted on 24th.....

For long the engine program for the better ones should be online by 2018.. So ideally we should get a couple of jets at least .. and that is something which we have been saying time and again here..again it will also depend upon Meriganc Line scaling up as well..

@Vergennes @Abingdonboy @anant_s @Taygibay @SpArK @Picdelamirand-oil @MilSpec @hellfire @nair @BON PLAN @Ankit Kumar 002 @GuardianRED @R!CK @Armani @randomradio @litefire @zebra7 @Spectre @Joe Shearer https://defence.pk/members/bregs.148509/ @surya kiran

You beat me to posting again!