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There is nothing new in what Hindu newspaper is quoting or what DM MP is telling..
The price of Rafale inclusive of weapons was RS 800 crs way back before the January papers were exchanged. India was looking at 20% minimum discount over it to bring it down to figure of around 640Crs.
On top this plan was further developed under MII where the figure reached was between RS 500 Crs to Rs 560 crs with average around Rs 540 crs. This included a lot more localisation as well as benefits of customised NG weapons.
In short this is now slowly being leaked what's the kind of range the price negotiations taking place.
Of course French side never said 750crs rather they quoted 720 crs back in jan 25th late evening negotiations.That was the basis of 36 jets at 25920 crs or round figure 26000 crs. That's $3.86 Bn or Euro 3.45 Bn.
The price reduction point finally settled at $85 Mn per jet all inclusive after the clarity on MII and a tacit approval of first tranche 90, second tranch 50 and a total of 5 tranches. The 18 follow on were reassigned to Navy who will order a separate tranche under MII and more from Merignac
It's the same structure with better control and plugging of loopholes as MKI production. With moving from CKD to all production from raw material with no important import dependence.
This was the basis on which beyond Rafale key technologies inclusive of barracuda stealth /noise reduction tech, reactor stabilisation, aircraft carrier related help, the new 600 km hypersonic ALCM weighing max 750kgs, civilian nuclear tech, tie up into AMCA, LCA Mk1A evolution plus naval variant help, seeker tech transfer and most importantly a separate laser based cooperation for both civil and defense fields (exciting prospect of a new shield against all types of incoming hostile projectiles at various speed and altitude) - these are the few prime ones mentioned beyond which the list is pretty long. And most of these sharing is negotiated by Doval directly.
Inspire of all the nonsense in media as well as India not signing the deal, the Indian rafales are already much beyond planning stage in Merignac and so is the new engine which is now 10 months plus into making. That's the reason also Indian Rafales would be delivered much earlier with new engines more like 2017 end or max beginning 2018.
Expect to see leaked reports of issues of MKI and LCA by same government in coming days and how price is further reduced and bargained. All to make MP a champion of negotiations..
In truth all that is long been done and file with this info is with CCS from mid April where it was decided that May end French team would come for signing. Of course a separate briefing by NSA to PM has also happened on this. This whole posturing is for domestic audience only.
The price of Rafale inclusive of weapons was RS 800 crs way back before the January papers were exchanged. India was looking at 20% minimum discount over it to bring it down to figure of around 640Crs.
On top this plan was further developed under MII where the figure reached was between RS 500 Crs to Rs 560 crs with average around Rs 540 crs. This included a lot more localisation as well as benefits of customised NG weapons.
In short this is now slowly being leaked what's the kind of range the price negotiations taking place.
Of course French side never said 750crs rather they quoted 720 crs back in jan 25th late evening negotiations.That was the basis of 36 jets at 25920 crs or round figure 26000 crs. That's $3.86 Bn or Euro 3.45 Bn.
The price reduction point finally settled at $85 Mn per jet all inclusive after the clarity on MII and a tacit approval of first tranche 90, second tranch 50 and a total of 5 tranches. The 18 follow on were reassigned to Navy who will order a separate tranche under MII and more from Merignac
It's the same structure with better control and plugging of loopholes as MKI production. With moving from CKD to all production from raw material with no important import dependence.
This was the basis on which beyond Rafale key technologies inclusive of barracuda stealth /noise reduction tech, reactor stabilisation, aircraft carrier related help, the new 600 km hypersonic ALCM weighing max 750kgs, civilian nuclear tech, tie up into AMCA, LCA Mk1A evolution plus naval variant help, seeker tech transfer and most importantly a separate laser based cooperation for both civil and defense fields (exciting prospect of a new shield against all types of incoming hostile projectiles at various speed and altitude) - these are the few prime ones mentioned beyond which the list is pretty long. And most of these sharing is negotiated by Doval directly.
Inspire of all the nonsense in media as well as India not signing the deal, the Indian rafales are already much beyond planning stage in Merignac and so is the new engine which is now 10 months plus into making. That's the reason also Indian Rafales would be delivered much earlier with new engines more like 2017 end or max beginning 2018.
Expect to see leaked reports of issues of MKI and LCA by same government in coming days and how price is further reduced and bargained. All to make MP a champion of negotiations..
In truth all that is long been done and file with this info is with CCS from mid April where it was decided that May end French team would come for signing. Of course a separate briefing by NSA to PM has also happened on this. This whole posturing is for domestic audience only.