DAMAGE ASSESMENT - 1971 INDO-PAK NAVAL WAR

[GORKHALI]

Chuck Yeager's beechcraft was destroyed by Naval Lieutenant (Later Admiral) Arun Prakash with 30 mm cannons fired from his Hawker Hunter. Admiral Arun Prakash an carrier-qualified on the Armstrong-Whitworth Sea Hawk pilot was on deputation with IAF No. 20 Squadron (The Lightnings) during 71 war.

Arey pagle,I know everything In n out.Just want to test our Pakistan brother knowledge.

 

[Juggernautjatt]

Arey pagle,I know everything In n out.Just want to test our Pakistan brother knowledge.

& I thought you were rubbing salt into wound

 

[danger007]

Pakistan Army 2nd Surrender ceremony before India…:

 

[IND151]

Attack at Okha had no significant effect on the war because the mission objective was not our fuel and ammunition dumbs but was to counter the Indian missile boat threat by attackiNg our missile boats as Okha harbour was the forward base of the missile boats. The strikes were ineffective as the Indian missile boats had been withdrawn southwards..

But our IAF attained many mission objectives by attacking Karachi in between Trident and Python..
By the Indian Air Force attacks on Karachi's fuel and ammunition depots, more than 50 percent of the total fuel requirement of the Karachi zone was reported to have been blown up. The result was a crippling economic blow to Pakistan. There was $3 billion worth of damage, most of the oil reserves and ammunition were lost, warehouses and workshops were destroyed and the PAF was hit as well. The port was nearly destroyed and was left burning.

Exactly.

The operation Python was effective, it destroyed very necessary fule on large scale.

 

[pursuit of happiness]

why you are going off topic when the thread is subjected to navy ..

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when you cant convince then confuse .. strategy

 

[Kompromat]

All Indian footnotes.

• Salik Siddiq,"Witness to Surrender",Vice Admiral Mihir K Roy (Retd.) PVSM AVSM,"War in the Indian Ocean",SPANTECH & LANCER 1995
• Vice Admiral N.Krishnan (Retd.) PVSM AVSM,"No way but surrender-An
• Account of Indo-pak war in the Bay of Bengal 1971",Vikas Publishing,New Delhi 1980

• "Story of the Pakistan Navy",Naval HQ,Islamabad ,1991Vice Admiral Hiranandhini
• (Retd.) NM,PVSM,AVSM,"Transition to triumph - Indian Navy 1965-75", Lancer International
• LLyod's casualty list, London

 

[Capt.Popeye]

This is complete annihilation.



please give some credible source, not from some propaganda website.

That story on the PAF website is.........just a story.
Okha was a FOB (Forward Operating Base) for the IN in 1971 There was only a NLO (Naval Liaision Officer) of Lt.Cmdr. rank posted there to liaise with the local civil authorities. Only the Missile Boats could use the Harbor because of Size/Water Depth limitations since Okha was a local Fishing Harbor. Okha was operationalised to provide a re-fuelling back-up for the Missile Boats which were designed by the Soviet Union only for Coastal Defence with an Operational Range of approx. 100 N.M. at full speed, which would not allow the OSA Boats to sail un-refuelled to Karachi and back. In the event, the OSAs were towed by the Frigates to conserve fuel, before being let loose for the attack.
This attack impressed the incredulous Soviet Navy who just could not believe that the OSAs could be used as such. And the Soviet Union Navy Supremo, Adm. Sergei Gorshkov had an abiding respect for the IN subsequently. The man who authored and pushed the IN plan of attack at Karachi had a "Karachi Connection"......Adm. S.M.Nanda. He was employed in Karachi Port Trust when WW II broke out. He joined the RIN as an RINVR Officer finding himself as CNS of the IN in 1971. He knew Karachi like the back of his hand. He has written about the plan of attack in his memoirs titled "The Man who bombed Karachi".
Do take a look at any Map/Google Earth to see how Karachi Harbor is located with particular attention to the Harbor Entrance. The Entrance is common with Bin Qasim Port and is constrained by the size and depths of the approach channel. IN's approach was two-pronged: to bottle up the PN Fleet in the Harbor and hit the POL capacity in Karachi which directly impacted Pakistan's ability to carry on the conflict. This was in addition to the Blockade enforced by IN Ships on the High Seas which cut off re-supply of Ammunition and other War Material which was steadily depleting.

This attack on Okha was insignificant and contrasts with the damage wrought on Karachi which was the MOB (Main Operating Base) for the PN. Apart from the extensive damage caused to the Oil-Tank Farm at Keamari, Karachi there was havoc in Karachi Harbor. Our Senior Co-Member Niaz Sahab was there and was part of the team that courageously fought the fires at the Tank-Farm. In consequence of the Karachi Raids, The Pakistani Fleet pulled back into harbor and did not venture forth later, the Warships were 'de-ammunitioned' to reduce the damage in case of subsequent raids which were expected by the PN. The CNS PN desperately sought assistance from the PAF at the time; but was told "it happens Old Boy" and simply fobbed-off.Then PIA and Karachi Flying Club aircraft were roped in to do an Air-Search for casualties and survivors of the attack at sea.

It is likely that somebody may now well "regurgitate" another story of a "Huge Attack" on Porbandar (btw, how many here know where it is?) in 1965 from a PN website. Porbandar had no Naval Presence, but was shelled by PN ships. Since most shells turned out to be duds (they were recovered then by the IA/IN BDS teams later) they were found to be marked IOF (Indian Ordnance Factories) 1940 stock. The Railway Station Waiting-Room roof was blown off and 1 cow died......which was the extent of the damage.

 

[danger007]

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when you cant convince then confuse .. strategy

He always try to focus on Individual score rather than outcome of war..

 

[danger007]

Indian Navy's THE KILLERS (Missile Vessel Squadro…:

 

[Juggernautjatt]

Number of kills by Sea Hawks & Alize proves one thing that CBGs enjoys clear edge over navy without aircraft carriers in naval warfare.

 

[Windjammer]

why you are going off topic when the thread is subjected to navy ..

Pakistan Army 2nd Surrender ceremony before India…:

Practice what you preach before you rejoice in your glory through conspiracy.

 

[danger007]

Practice what you preach before you rejoice in your glory through conspiracy.

conspiracy? ??? lol... I didn't said anything just posted some link..

 

[Echo_419]

That story on the PAF website is.........just a story.
Okha was a FOB (Forward Operating Base) for the IN in 1971 There was only a NLO (Naval Liaision Officer) of Lt.Cmdr. rank posted there to liaise with the local civil authorities. Only the Missile Boats could use the Harbor because of Size/Water Depth limitations since Okha was a local Fishing Harbor. Okha was operationalised to provide a re-fuelling back-up for the Missile Boats which were designed by the Soviet Union only for Coastal Defence with an Operational Range of approx. 100 N.M. at full speed, which would not allow the OSA Boats to sail un-refuelled to Karachi and back. In the event, the OSAs were towed by the Frigates to conserve fuel, before being let loose for the attack.
This attack impressed the incredulous Soviet Navy who just could not believe that the OSAs could be used as such. And the Soviet Union Navy Supremo, Adm. Sergei Gorshkov had an abiding respect for the IN subsequently. The man who authored and pushed the IN plan of attack at Karachi had a "Karachi Connection"......Adm. S.M.Nanda. He was employed in Karachi Port Trust when WW II broke out. He joined the RIN as an RINVR Officer finding himself as CNS of the IN in 1971. He knew Karachi like the back of his hand. He has written about the plan of attack in his memoirs titled "The Man who bombed Karachi".
Do take a look at any Map/Google Earth to see how Karachi Harbor is located with particular attention to the Harbor Entrance. The Entrance is common with Bin Qasim Port and is constrained by the size and depths of the approach channel. IN's approach was two-pronged: to bottle up the PN Fleet in the Harbor and hit the POL capacity in Karachi which directly impacted Pakistan's ability to carry on the conflict. This was in addition to the Blockade enforced by IN Ships on the High Seas which cut off re-supply of Ammunition and other War Material which was steadily depleting.

This attack on Okha was insignificant and contrasts with the damage wrought on Karachi which was the MOB (Main Operating Base) for the PN. Apart from the extensive damage caused to the Oil-Tank Farm at Keamari, Karachi there was havoc in Karachi Harbor. Our Senior Co-Member Niaz Sahab was there and was part of the team that courageously fought the fires at the Tank-Farm. In consequence of the Karachi Raids, The Pakistani Fleet pulled back into harbor and did not venture forth later, the Warships were 'de-ammunitioned' to reduce the damage in case of subsequent raids which were expected by the PN. The CNS PN desperately sought assistance from the PAF at the time; but was told "it happens Old Boy" and simply fobbed-off.Then PIA and Karachi Flying Club aircraft were roped in to do an Air-Search for casualties and survivors of the attack at sea.

It is likely that somebody may now well "regurgitate" another story of a "Huge Attack" on Porbandar (btw, how many here know where it is?) in 1965 from a PN website. Porbandar had no Naval Presence, but was shelled by PN ships. Since most shells turned out to be duds (they were recovered then by the IA/IN BDS teams later) they were found to be marked IOF (Indian Ordnance Factories) 1940 stock. The Railway Station Waiting-Room roof was blown off and 1 cow died......which was the extent of the damage.

Muft me marri gayi bechari

 

[Badbadman]

Practice what you preach before you rejoice in your glory through conspiracy.

Its ok windjammer, take it easy. $hit happens man. Am with you here.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Number of kills by Sea Hawks & Alize proves one thing that CBGs enjoys clear edge over navy without aircraft carriers in naval warfare.

The reason for that is both simple and obvious. The Radius (and Area) of Operation gets expanded exponentially solely because of the Carrier's Air-Wing. Just to the Mathematical (Geometrical) Exercise.... consider the Carrier's position as a point. Then draw a circle of 150 N.M. radius around it (Range of the Sea Hawks and Alizes). Then move this Point of Origin 480 N.M. in a straight line (for ease of computation/understanding). This is on the basis of INS Vikrant steaming at her optimal cruising speed of 20 Knots for 24 hrs. The area bounded by the moving Radius of Operation along that line of 480 N.M. will give you the Area of Operation (in one day) of INS Vikrant in 1971.

The present Carriers have even better figures.