CV-18 Fujian - Type 003 Aircraft Carrier News & Discussions

[Deino]

Via SDF/"Higgle":

https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/pl...lopment-news-thread.t8048/page-51#post-439605

Another leak posted today, I'm not sure how trustworthy this is, but if it turns out to be true, it'll be big news indeed.

A naval officer was giving a presentation at a school for marine engineering in Wuhan a few days ago, as a guest speaker. When asked about what type of catapults the 002 will use, he answered "electromagnetic" without hesitation.

The source had a photograph to support this claim.

Make of this what you will...

Original source:
http://lt.cjdby.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2364495

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The J-15B is now on the ongoing training of the land based EMALS since 2016.

 

[Deino]

The J-15B is now on the ongoing training of the land based EMALS since 2016.

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Nice, but I thought its designation is J-15T or J-15A ??

 

[Mugwop]

A drone testing on the EMALS.

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Which drone is that?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Nice, but I thought its designation is J-15T or J-15A ??

The J-15 with the WS-10H, since the AL-31F version is better for the ski-jump.

Which drone is that?

Not sure the exact model, but definitely a light one.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

This is the J-15 for the EMALS trial.

 

[Get Ya Wig Split]

China building 3rd aircraft carrier

According to Chinese experts, China is on course to build 5-6 aircraft carriers, a move considered by rest of the world as China’s move to fortify its claims in disputed South China Sea and dominate larger Indian Ocean region

CHINA is building a third aircraft carrier based on American models as it seeks to fortify its claims in the disputed South China Sea and dominate the larger Indian Ocean region to realise its blue water aspirations.

Chinese experts said, China is on course to build 5-6 aircraft carriers. While the first aircraft carrier, Liaoning, is a refitted Soviet-era ship, the second is being built on the same model with more advanced facilities and is likely to enter service in 2020.

The latest carrier, under construction at Shanghai, is based on US models, state-run ‘Global Times’ reported on Tuesday.

Based on information released by Chinese Defence Ministry, the second Type 001A carrier being built at the north-east Dalian port uses the ski-jump technology for aircraft to take off, like the first carrier Liaoning rather than a more advanced catapult technology used by American carriers. The second aircraft carrier is expected to have a displacement of 50,000 tonnes.

China is looking into catapult technology for the third Type 002 carrier being built in Shanghai, the daily quoted Li Jie, a naval military expert, as saying.

“In other words, 002 is entirely different from Liaoning (001) and 001A, and it will look like a US aircraft carrier rather than a Russian one,” Li added.

Official Chinese media have earlier reported about possibility of a third carrier but it is the first time they have announced that it was being built.

Most advanced carriers use Electromagnetic Catapult System to launch fighter jets, but China is also testing steam catapults, Li said.

“In order to protect China’s territories and overseas interests, China needs two carrier strike groups in the West Pacific Ocean and two in the Indian Ocean. So we need at least five to six aircraft carriers,” Yin Zhuo, a senior researcher at the PLA Navy Equipment Research Centre, said.

Chinese media has often highlighted the construction of aircraft carriers as the US deployed aircraft carriers in the disputed South China Sea challenging Beijing’s claims.

 

[samsara]

China building 3rd aircraft carrier

According to Chinese experts, China is on course to build 5-6 aircraft carriers, a move considered by rest of the world as China’s move to fortify its claims in disputed South China Sea and dominate larger Indian Ocean region

CHINA is building a third aircraft carrier based on American models as it seeks to fortify its claims in the disputed South China Sea and dominate the larger Indian Ocean region to realise its blue water aspirations.

Chinese experts said, China is on course to build 5-6 aircraft carriers. While the first aircraft carrier, Liaoning, is a refitted Soviet-era ship, the second is being built on the same model with more advanced facilities and is likely to enter service in 2020.

The latest carrier, under construction at Shanghai, is based on US models, state-run ‘Global Times’ reported on Tuesday.

Based on information released by Chinese Defence Ministry, the second Type 001A carrier being built at the north-east Dalian port uses the ski-jump technology for aircraft to take off, like the first carrier Liaoning rather than a more advanced catapult technology used by American carriers. The second aircraft carrier is expected to have a displacement of 50,000 tonnes.

China is looking into catapult technology for the third Type 002 carrier being built in Shanghai, the daily quoted Li Jie, a naval military expert, as saying.

“In other words, 002 is entirely different from Liaoning (001) and 001A, and it will look like a US aircraft carrier rather than a Russian one,” Li added.

Official Chinese media have earlier reported about possibility of a third carrier but it is the first time they have announced that it was being built.

Most advanced carriers use Electromagnetic Catapult System to launch fighter jets, but China is also testing steam catapults, Li said.

“In order to protect China’s territories and overseas interests, China needs two carrier strike groups in the West Pacific Ocean and two in the Indian Ocean. So we need at least five to six aircraft carriers,” Yin Zhuo, a senior researcher at the PLA Navy Equipment Research Centre, said.

Chinese media has often highlighted the construction of aircraft carriers as the US deployed aircraft carriers in the disputed South China Sea challenging Beijing’s claims.

Source: a news feed from PTI - Press Trust of India, the largest news agency in India

China building 3rd aircraft carrier

Indeed all the published articles do mention the author's name (reporter): K J M Varma and PTI as the source.

By K J M Varma, BEIJING, Feb 21, 2017
(link: everywhere on Indian publications)

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

China's EMALS is by far more advanced than its American counterpart.

The American EMALS has only been tested with a rate of 1 failures out 600 tests so far, and I do remember there was an article in last year pointed out it was 1 out 400.

China's EMALS is 1 out of thousands times at least.

http://www.guancha.cn/military-affairs/2017_03_06_397353.shtml

 

[gambit]

China's EMALS is by far more advanced than its American counterpart.

A claim that is dubious at best.

The US Navy have been operating the steam catapult system for decades. We are good with it in peace and war times. So even if we grant the generosity of the Chinese claim, how would that make the Chinese aircraft carrier operations superior ? None.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

A claim that is dubious at best.

The US Navy have been operating the steam catapult system for decades. We are good with it in peace and war times. So even if we grant the generosity of the Chinese claim, how would that make the Chinese aircraft carrier operations superior ? None.

lol, I knew the typical China hater naysayer like you is going to flood this thread.

The steam catapult is not related to the EMALS at all, it is two different technologies without any hereditary relationship. China has already ditched the steam catapult in favor of the EMALS.

Whether you like or not, because the genius Professor Pan, China was the first country who launched the quantum satellite, not USA. Now because of Professor Ma, China has been gifted with a far more advanced and efficient EMALS.

The US has now tried to build several dysfunctional Ford class carriers won't help them to regain the ground on China. The CVN-78 hasn't even passed any sea trial test a month prior the commission. That's clearly a sign that indicates this ship is in deep trouble. Without solving the faulty design of the CVN-78, its successor ships are still going to be anchored in the dock just like the current CVN-78.

China is soon going to build the Type 003 which is way larger and more advanced than the CVN-78 class with a dual shipyard. That's more than twice of the US per rate.

 

[HannibalBarca]

lol, I knew the typical China hater naysayer like you is going to flood this thread.

The steam catapult is not related to the EMALS at all, it is two different technologies without any hereditary relationship. China has already ditched the steam catapult in favor of the EMALS.

Whether you like or not, because the genius Professor Pan, China was the first country who launched the quantum satellite, not USA. Now because of Professor Ma, China has been gifted with a far more advanced and efficient EMALS.

The US has now tried to build several dysfunctional Ford class carriers won't help them to regain the ground on China. The CVN-78 hasn't even passed any sea trial test a month prior commission. That's clearly a sign that indicates this ship is in deep trouble. Without solving the faulty design of the CVN-78, its successor ships are still going to be anchored in the dock just like the current CVN-78.

China is soon going to the Type 003 which is way larger and more advanced than the CVN-78 class with a dual shipyard. That's more than twice of the US per rate.

got some data sheet of TYpe02?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

got some data sheet of TYpe02?

It fully displaces close to 90,000 tons with four functional EMALS catapults, two on the bow and two on the angled flight deck. It is also conventionally powered.

 

[gambit]

The steam catapult is not related to the EMALS at all, it is two different technologies without any hereditary relationship.

Did I say the two were related ?

If Chinese aircraft carriers have EMALS and the US remains with the tried and trued steam catapult, do you have any hard data to support even the idea that the Chinese aircraft carrier would be more operationally potent than the American ?

That is the gist of my post that you ain't gots the smarts to understand.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Did I say the two were related ?

If Chinese aircraft carriers have EMALS and the US remains with the tried and trued steam catapult, do you have any hard data to support even the idea that the Chinese aircraft carrier would be more operationally potent than the American ?

That is the gist of my post that you ain't gots the smarts to understand.

We don't care if the US is trying to claim to be more advanced in the steam catapult domain.

Now everyone starts from scratch from the completely new EMALS.

China has tested more on the land than the US, and the CVN-78 is still dysfunctional so far. Even it does start to launch the aircrafts, it is still using an inferior EMALS, nuff said.